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Ugh, this is why you buy your own synthetic cannabanoid and make your own blend, the way you like it, and as strong as you want it! It ends up being cheaper as well!!
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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 3
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Hazey420
Bluelighter
I have to agree that is quite gross, I have never had anything like that happen to me you need to go to the stores that have the legal Marijuana and get the Card to go with it so you dont have these problems, at the stores well at our stores here, everything is checked, and clean.
topekoms18
Bluelighter
I cant get past the poutperri fragrance. And I feel like a scum bag smoking that stuff. I get headaches afterwards, and its fiendish as hell. That and getting it is a pain in the ass. Walk into a hispanic convienence store and automatically I'm treated like dea or atf or something. The whole thing just feels sketchy. it's definately not spiritual in my experience either. That and i get thick headed. Its not like introspective for me, just intense, and gone.
foolsgold
Bluelighter
hello all just to say had a fit on am2201 tuesday and ended up in hospital so just a quick remeinder that this things happen
down508
Bluelighter
Hey guys. Im gonna purchase some pure chems. Idk which one to get. I dont like am2201 because of how fast my tolerance grows to it. I'm looking for something potent that stays potent throughout the day.
the blend I'm using is called Annihilatio by Mary Joy. I might get it tested, I want this chem.
the blend I'm using is called Annihilatio by Mary Joy. I might get it tested, I want this chem.
down508
Bluelighter
I'm considering ur 144 and 5f 144. My favorite was 2nd generation blends, the super potent ones like K6 etc.
foolsgold
Bluelighter
ur-144 has been know to cause fits in people mostly when a sleep . iv had these a few times so stay a way from them now shame as they were nice ones as well
lacing tobacco with am-2201 for ryo cigerattes
Has anyone tried this? Just making a blend out of rolling tobacco and then rolling your own AM-2201 / Tobacco cigarette. This would be ideal for smoking in public because everyone would think you were just smoking cigarette.
Just wondering if anybody has tried this?
Has anyone tried this? Just making a blend out of rolling tobacco and then rolling your own AM-2201 / Tobacco cigarette. This would be ideal for smoking in public because everyone would think you were just smoking cigarette.
Just wondering if anybody has tried this?
debaser
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I have tried am-2201 and never achieved to smoke it properly. You cannot just put it in a joint in my experience (contrary to the JWH series), it may have to do with the high temperature of the cigarette.
Anyway, I'm going to move this to CD.
Anyway, I'm going to move this to CD.
the toad
Bluelighter
As someone who quit once and went back saying "ill just smoke some once in a while sos i dont get addicted again and can still switch it up from herb.... dont do it.... im addicted again and up every 2 hours at night smoking more and possibly puking if going too long.... fiendy and shotty chems these are...
RobotRipping
Bluelighter
you can put it in a joint, it will work, just try to have an even distribution or make sure the am-2201 is at the start of the cigarette (near the filter) so that it can vaporize. I've successfully done this with am-2201 and jwh of various kinds. The best was with jwh-210 i'd go on break at work and out for a smoke with the usual crowd and i'd be getting insanely high lol.
JWH-018 (1-pentyl-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole) or AM-678[1] is an analgesic chemical from the naphthoylindole family that acts as a full agonist at both the CB1 and CB2 cannabinoid receptors, with some selectivity for CB2. It produces effects in animals similar to those of THC, a cannabinoid naturally present in cannabis, leading to its use in synthetic cannabis products such as "legal cannabis herbal incense blends" which in some countries are sold legally as "incense", labeled "not for human consumption."
C24H23NO
Carbon 24 24 molecules of carbon
Hydrogen 23 23 molecules of hydrogen
Nitrogen 1 nitrogen
Oxygen 1 oxygen
Invented by John W. Huffman states: "It bothers me that people are so stupid as to use this stuff"
'Potpourri' is created by a recipe of a JWH compound (JWH-18 for example) and diluted with Acetone which is then sprayed onto dried plant leaves of whatever origin the manufacturer chooses.
I have had to watch the father of my children exhibit 'crackhead-like' qualities after smoking this stuff. He obtained it legally from a gas station in Akron, Ohio. It appears to more closely resemble methamphetamine than cannabis. He becomes lethargic beyond any 'high' I have ever witnessed (other than seeing a schoolmate huffing dangerous aerosol propellants.) After smoking K-30, he turned a pale white like I had never seen before and finally even took on a greenish look right before retiring to the bathroom to vomit.
So, short term side effects are dizziness, vomiting, disorientation.
He continued a strange version of his routine behavior as if he could not put it off any further. Then he said that he needed to sit down and he immediately fell asleep. He tossed and turned on the couch all night. (I stayed up all last night with him worried). When he got up he was still somewhat disoriented (beyond tired even after 12 hours of sleep). We had an important appointment, I assumed he would have slept it off but his mannerisms were very aggravated and his language was uncharacteristically hostile. On our way home he had to stop the car. It looked like he passed out in the drivers seat for a moment. When I yelled his name he sat up and said he felt like he was going to vomit. He mentioned that he did not even remember eating dinner with me. (We ate dinner an hour before he smoked this stuff so it had an effect on previous short term memory which I've never seen before).
He told me that he isn't going to smoke 'that stuff' anymore. I hope that is true.
I am online currently researching the long term side effects of JWH-018 without much luck other than the inventor of the stuff says people shouldn't smoke it. I am desperate for an argument as to why he shouldn't smoke it, in case he ever decides he might want to do it again. He doesn't remember the way he behaved on it and when I tell him it's as if he doesn't believe me.
Please, if you do use this stuff, listen to loved ones concerns because it is painfully obvious when you use it, even if you don't think so.
C24H23NO
Carbon 24 24 molecules of carbon
Hydrogen 23 23 molecules of hydrogen
Nitrogen 1 nitrogen
Oxygen 1 oxygen
Invented by John W. Huffman states: "It bothers me that people are so stupid as to use this stuff"
'Potpourri' is created by a recipe of a JWH compound (JWH-18 for example) and diluted with Acetone which is then sprayed onto dried plant leaves of whatever origin the manufacturer chooses.
I have had to watch the father of my children exhibit 'crackhead-like' qualities after smoking this stuff. He obtained it legally from a gas station in Akron, Ohio. It appears to more closely resemble methamphetamine than cannabis. He becomes lethargic beyond any 'high' I have ever witnessed (other than seeing a schoolmate huffing dangerous aerosol propellants.) After smoking K-30, he turned a pale white like I had never seen before and finally even took on a greenish look right before retiring to the bathroom to vomit.
So, short term side effects are dizziness, vomiting, disorientation.
He continued a strange version of his routine behavior as if he could not put it off any further. Then he said that he needed to sit down and he immediately fell asleep. He tossed and turned on the couch all night. (I stayed up all last night with him worried). When he got up he was still somewhat disoriented (beyond tired even after 12 hours of sleep). We had an important appointment, I assumed he would have slept it off but his mannerisms were very aggravated and his language was uncharacteristically hostile. On our way home he had to stop the car. It looked like he passed out in the drivers seat for a moment. When I yelled his name he sat up and said he felt like he was going to vomit. He mentioned that he did not even remember eating dinner with me. (We ate dinner an hour before he smoked this stuff so it had an effect on previous short term memory which I've never seen before).
He told me that he isn't going to smoke 'that stuff' anymore. I hope that is true.
I am online currently researching the long term side effects of JWH-018 without much luck other than the inventor of the stuff says people shouldn't smoke it. I am desperate for an argument as to why he shouldn't smoke it, in case he ever decides he might want to do it again. He doesn't remember the way he behaved on it and when I tell him it's as if he doesn't believe me.
Please, if you do use this stuff, listen to loved ones concerns because it is painfully obvious when you use it, even if you don't think so.
Chainer
Bluelighter
merged to mega.
down508
Bluelighter
Help With 5f-UR-144
Hey, so a week from wednesday I recieved a gram of 5f-UR-144. It stared with me loving it, using a glass bubble vaporizor. Then I started using a torch lighter to avoid geting black shit everywhere. a some point yestrday I figured I must be doing something wrong since I was shoveling 20+mg into the thing and vaping it all and still not being that high. I am hoping someone can give me advice on geing the most out of this chemical. I only have less then .1 left from the gram, but have another 2 grams being overnighted. any advice on getting big hits out of this pipe? Do I put say 30mg in the pipe and stretch it out or do I put 5mg in the pipe and wai til thats gone to refill. I feel like usually I can't even tell if i'm hitting it good until 5 minutes later when I'm high.
help please
Hey, so a week from wednesday I recieved a gram of 5f-UR-144. It stared with me loving it, using a glass bubble vaporizor. Then I started using a torch lighter to avoid geting black shit everywhere. a some point yestrday I figured I must be doing something wrong since I was shoveling 20+mg into the thing and vaping it all and still not being that high. I am hoping someone can give me advice on geing the most out of this chemical. I only have less then .1 left from the gram, but have another 2 grams being overnighted. any advice on getting big hits out of this pipe? Do I put say 30mg in the pipe and stretch it out or do I put 5mg in the pipe and wai til thats gone to refill. I feel like usually I can't even tell if i'm hitting it good until 5 minutes later when I'm high.
help please
SNR
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Aparently 5f-UR-144 is a strong full agonist at CB2 receptors but not at CB1, which causes the recreational effects of cannabinoids... I don't think dosage is the problem, it's the fact that this compound simply won't get you that high... I wouldn't recommend using it long term either because withdrawal from strong CB2 agonists can be very unpleasant (reverse of medicinal benefits such as anti-inflamitory and anti-pain).
down508
Bluelighter
the thing is I have gotten much more effects from it then say am2201. with full cb1 agonists I'll get high as fuck but only for say the first bowl and anything after that is a huge waste of material. what I find with 5f that makes it so refreshing is that I can stay faded on it. I want to get some jwh-250 and some 73, and now that I am vaping pure chemical I have a little extra money to experiment with. what cannabinoid would you recommend for straight forward dose for dose intoxicant that will keep working long after I should have stopped smoking? How abou regular ur-144?
side effects of UR-144
I'd like to share a couple things about this cannabinoid that I've noticed while trying it this weekend.
First, I noticed some weird twitching, mostly in my hands, as if an electric current circulated through my body and produced little tremors and twitches. I didn't like it, it felt as if I was about to have a seizure.
secondly, did anybody notice the deeply dissociative effects at high doses?, sometimes everything seemed to go away and all that remained in my visual field was some kind of grey noise, like the nothingness in that white noise on tv.
Blurred vision, blured visio, vlur vicio, lur biso...... I couln't read on this stuff. If you try hard you can focus enough in the exact center on your field, but only after great effort.
"se me va la cabeza". I could translate this ver well. I've had it happened everytime I used UR. It happends only when I close my eyes. My mind seems to go away at an increasing speed, like in a roller coaster. it is a feeling similar to what you get when you arrive home early morning after a crazy saturday night (read alcohol), you are in your bed so dizzy that your mind shakes violently when you close your eyes, so in order to avoid this you just keep straring the shining lightbulb on your desk.
thats all for now. Comments?
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The twitching and jerking of muscles while being on ur144 seem to be related to usage of pregabalin. When I haven´t taken my daily dose of pregabalin (arround 700 mg) I don´t get these effects. So don´t mix these two.
I'd like to share a couple things about this cannabinoid that I've noticed while trying it this weekend.
First, I noticed some weird twitching, mostly in my hands, as if an electric current circulated through my body and produced little tremors and twitches. I didn't like it, it felt as if I was about to have a seizure.
secondly, did anybody notice the deeply dissociative effects at high doses?, sometimes everything seemed to go away and all that remained in my visual field was some kind of grey noise, like the nothingness in that white noise on tv.
Blurred vision, blured visio, vlur vicio, lur biso...... I couln't read on this stuff. If you try hard you can focus enough in the exact center on your field, but only after great effort.
"se me va la cabeza". I could translate this ver well. I've had it happened everytime I used UR. It happends only when I close my eyes. My mind seems to go away at an increasing speed, like in a roller coaster. it is a feeling similar to what you get when you arrive home early morning after a crazy saturday night (read alcohol), you are in your bed so dizzy that your mind shakes violently when you close your eyes, so in order to avoid this you just keep straring the shining lightbulb on your desk.
thats all for now. Comments?
edit.
The twitching and jerking of muscles while being on ur144 seem to be related to usage of pregabalin. When I haven´t taken my daily dose of pregabalin (arround 700 mg) I don´t get these effects. So don´t mix these two.
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