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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 3

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Quick question, with a (volcano) vaporizer, what temperature would you use to vaporize these cannabinoids, JWH-182 in particular ?
Boiling point/Flashpoint is not available on the MSDS.
 
Artificial Emotion said:
God I've heard about this 'fake hash' on the market. It looks, feels, smells and apparently tastes more or less like real hashish, but of course doesn't contain any of the cannabinoids or terpenes present in real resin. People buy the stuff cheaply and add synthetic cannabinoids after heating the stuff to make it pliable. That's how desperate people are and how low people will stoop to just to make a quick buck. The sad thing is most people have either never had any real hashish/charas before and don't know what to look for. Because it gets them high, often very high, they just assume that it must be real. Given the low cost of synthetic cannabinoids there's a lot of money to be made at the expense of the consumer.

This is the problem with resin is it's so easy to add adulterants so there's really no way of knowing for sure that the stuff hasn't been contaminated.
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Aye, it is pretty easy to distinguish, just after the fact.

Happened last night lol, I had half a bowl of kief left of oil dipped citrus skunk, I also had scraped out some resin from a pipe that belonged to a synthetic smoking friend. Idk why, maybe the half bowl of kief looked like it wasn't going to put me to sleep, so I filled the rest of the bowl up with resin and hit it in a GB.

Maybe 10 seconds later I'm stumbling to my couch, can't see straight, heart racing, Family Guy is freaking me the fuck out, can't have a thought that doesn't freak me the fuck out, go lay down in bed with all lights on still in my apt (because I didn't have the coordination enough to turn them off), heart keeps absurdly racing for about 20 minutes, and I pass out.

Much more different than nature's gift.
 
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Me and 2 friends always loved smoking some synthetic blends but the past 3 times we've done it they have all being really scary and uncomfortable experiences with our heart rate, sickness and almost passing out. Staying clear of them from now on I think, they're not worth it at all imo
 
Rotten Dead Snail In Incense Blend

Ok guys, so I think this is the last time I'm buying blends. Idk if this is the right forum for this but I would like advice. I've been smoking a new blend called Annihilation for a month or 2. It is the best blend I've found so far, but today I was packing a bowl from the bottom of a bag, and I found a strange object. I pull it out and low and behold there is a small broken stump of a snale shell, with the semi decomposed snale remains left in the shell. I am absolutely appalled but have no money and am wondering should I smoke it? jk but is the rest if the blend "safe" to smoke? I say it like that because obviously it isn't but I mean compared to if I hadnt found a snail in it. It smells like cannabanoids, clearly having been through the processing of the incense. should I bring it back and request a refund? I am a regular customer and I'm sure they'd rather keep my business. Let me know?
 
*Bump this motherfucker!*

Looking fpr people who agree with me :P or disagree.

So JWH 122 is less "fun" than cannabis and less war and music enhancing, but more psychedelic, but with a cold edge. I'm having less fun than on shooms or aMT but it all more meaningfull and I learn shit and self develop. JWH 182 is more like the real deal but heavy on the physical side. It's more sedating but in can, at least without tolerance, seem like a benzo weed combo.

I'm seriously inclinéd to go to bed early today :D

e: JESUS FUCKING CHRIUST i never manage to describe any experience or feeling or drug that when sober
 
I found a dead roach in a sack of real buds once...of course I couldn't ask for a refund so I ended up just throwing out the roach and smoking the rest of the sack.

I know its bad humor but when I said I like smoking roaches I didn't mean put bugs in my weed.
 
haha lol I've gotten an ant head clamped into a nugget of outdoors before, but I figured since this is a very high end product and rarely has stems, things like snails wouldn't make it into the grinder. This also shows little pieces of it probably got crushed up and mixed with the shake.
 
Jesus christ, no, do not buy from that company again. I suggest you check out our MEGA Synthetic Cannaboid discussion here in CD and learn up a bit about wtf could be in your blends. You'd be surprised, and it's actually a lot worse then some dead snail.

That said, you need to smoke that snail, mannnn.
 
so I thought maybe if I get a fresh bag It'll be all better, went and picked one up, and all I can taste in it was snail snail snail. It doesn't even taste flavored anymore to me it legit tastes like high grade escargo. I'm an idiot though, I gave it to the guy in the store, without taking pictures. He's an indian dude and he just laughed and was like I honestly have no Idea. you're the one who smokes the shit.

I wish I never found it. the thing is I sometimes don't even pack my bowls I just dip them into the pouch and pick out whatever blatant stems are in there. thank fuck I looked this time.

I'm mad though, because this is the only blend I have found that gets me high as fuck no matter how much I smoke. If i could figure out what chemical is in it I would certainly order that right off the bat. I know i'm not allowed to ask what's in the blend but I'm going to ask generally are there any synthetic cannabanoids that smell heavily of pomegranate? This blend clearly has a very high dose of cannabanoids in it and it has a fruity unique smell like XXX Vitamin Water or pomegranate or something like that. Infact now that I smell it I am detecting grapes, a very citrusy wine grape smell. I have never smelled it in a blend before this, and since the first time I tried it I've been hooked like I was on Am2201 blends before I got my hands on this. now when I smoke am2201 blends no matter how much I smoke i dont get high.

there's no way of knowing but if you guys know any very heady noids that have a very rapid drop in tolerance and kind of smell like wine let me know, because that will be the chemical that I buy.
 
chances are EXTREMELY high that whatever you are smelling is synthetic smell to cover up the smell/taste of the chemicals and of the herbs they are sprayed on (which are not known to have the most pleasant flavor) so really you are just smoking one more chemical, this one without even any positive benefits
 
Duda, what do you care about a dead snail?? I mean really you're smoking stuff that has been synthesized god know where in the middle of freaking Asia. After synthesis it has been (poorly) washed with acetone, chlorine, benzene, ether or something of the sort. If you are lucky most of those super toxic shit are gone, most of it because there's probably something left, along with some of the original stuff that the acetone was supposed to be washing which is probably far more toxic than acetone itself. Also these chemicals are laced on some stems and leaves of plants that you have no idea what they are, and chances are the guy who manufactures the stuff don't know what all of those plants are (he probably uses some kind of inert herb, but I'm sure that the quality control is not the biggest of his worries-- And since you found a dead snail in there, he is probably lacing the weed he gets from mowing his lawn with cannabinoids and sending it to you)
So, you are more worried about a snail, which has no alkaloids whatsoever and would probably even be nutritious if you ate it rather than being worried about smoking weed from the crazy Asian chemist's lawn, with acetone, with unwashed synthesis residue.

Whatever I've done my share of RC and I've smoked schwag with a sunflower seed in it and I've snorted coke out of baggies taken out of the garbage. Whatever, big picture men, big picture.
 
Ive gotten bricked weed that had a feather stuck between two nugs.

Probably from some farm in Mexico where the chickens walk around next to the bud.
 
max_ said:
Duda, what do you care about a dead snail?? I mean really you're smoking stuff that has been synthesized god know where in the middle of freaking Asia. After synthesis it has been (poorly) washed with acetone, chlorine, benzene, ether or something of the sort. If you are lucky most of those super toxic shit are gone, most of it because there's probably something left, along with some of the original stuff that the acetone was supposed to be washing which is probably far more toxic than acetone itself. Also these chemicals are laced on some stems and leaves of plants that you have no idea what they are, and chances are the guy who manufactures the stuff don't know what all of those plants are (he probably uses some kind of inert herb, but I'm sure that the quality control is not the biggest of his worries-- And since you found a dead snail in there, he is probably lacing the weed he gets from mowing his lawn with cannabinoids and sending it to you)
So, you are more worried about a snail, which has no alkaloids whatsoever and would probably even be nutritious if you ate it rather than being worried about smoking weed from the crazy Asian chemist's lawn, with acetone, with unwashed synthesis residue.

Whatever I've done my share of RC and I've smoked schwag with a sunflower seed in it and I've snorted coke out of baggies taken out of the garbage. Whatever, big picture men, big picture.
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Ok buddy I get it When someone talks about how they buy bags of street heroin people don' get on them about what might have gone into it up the line. It's impossible to read three posts on here about synth canns without someone complaining about how somehow with blends you are more at risk then run of the mill street drugs. Sure the effects of Heroin have been studied for over a century but that does not mean that the effects of what Flaco is selling down on Broadway have been studied. Something about the anxiety induced by cannabanoids and the fact that these are all relatively unknown chemicals breeds serious paranoia. Ok we get it, the shit is bad for me. no lets move on to the topic at hand...

Do you think it was a ground snail or a sea snail? I realized it was just the tip, so a full sized snail probably made it into the grinder.
 
Hey down, just wanted to let you know I am an avid user and promoter of synthetics, but that does not mean we don't still promote awareness of drugs... Nobody should be bashing you for your drug choices.

Also pure synthetics will not have a scent, so can't help you there with pomogranent.
 
alright sounds good, I heard somewhere am2201 had a distinct odor. anyways I didn't mean to flip out last night I sometimes get real stoned and rant on messageboards. I see the distinction between the skiled chemists oversea and that guy who lives above the liquor store and makes blends lol. I mean the snail thing is gross, ut I wouldnt say I am at any risk from it. Of course I know of the grave danger I put myself in by doing drugs, I think we all do no matter how careful we are. off to my new job, wish me luck. It's outdoors so my constant need for incense won't be a problem.
 
that is absolutely fucking disgusting.

i think these incense blends are nasty anyway, but finding a fucking old nasty snail in it? that just crosses the line
 
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