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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 3

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the new blend I bought has the worst substrate or medium or "the leafy shit whatever it is"... tastes like absolute plastic hose with faeces and burns unevenly. impossible to just inhale dat smoke and enjoy the high

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The AM-2201 thread

as i found no single thread dedicated to this substance i thught i would star one, here is the little info i have found on it
"AM-2201 (1-(5-fluoropentyl)-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole) is a research chemical that acts as a potent but unselective agonist for the cannabinoid receptor CB1, with a Ki of 1.0nM at CB1 and 2.6nM at CB2.[1] It is part of the AM series of cannabinoids discovered by Alexandros Makriyannis at Northeastern University.

Reputed recreational use of AM-2201 in the United States has led to it being specifically listed in a proposed 2011 amendment to the Controlled Substances Act, aiming to add a number of synthetic drugs into Schedule I.[2] There have been anecdotal reports of individuals experiencing panic attacks and vomiting, at doses as small as 2 milligrams. As the dosage is much smaller than most other synthetic cannabinoids, users may accidentally dose too much. Convulsions have been reported at doses exceeding 10 milligrams.[3] Caution should be taken if using this substance as it is active at doses as small as 500 µg (micrograms), has a very steep dose-response curve, and tolerance builds up quickly to the effects. As of November 2011, there have been no reports of death associated with the drug. The toxicity of AM-2201 is still a matter of debate and there may be long term side effects."

source : wiki

I am getting a small sample of AM-2201 and have no vaporisor, so i was wondering the possible ROA's and approximate dosage...

thanks
 
phatass said:
I am getting a small sample of AM-2201 and have no vaporisor, so i was wondering the possible ROA's and approximate dosage...
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Just put the amount of powder into a tobacco joint, that's what I do all the time with my cannabinoids. Of course it isn't healthy, but eh... ;)
 
Yes phatass, it could be a better ROA indeed, but I'm satisfied with my way of smoking it because of the easiness and efficiency of this method ;)
 
God I've heard about this 'fake hash' on the market. It looks, feels, smells and apparently tastes more or less like real hashish, but of course doesn't contain any of the cannabinoids or terpenes present in real resin. People buy the stuff cheaply and add synthetic cannabinoids after heating the stuff to make it pliable. That's how desperate people are and how low people will stoop to just to make a quick buck. The sad thing is most people have either never had any real hashish/charas before and don't know what to look for. Because it gets them high, often very high, they just assume that it must be real. Given the low cost of synthetic cannabinoids there's a lot of money to be made at the expense of the consumer.

This is the problem with resin is it's so easy to add adulterants so there's really no way of knowing for sure that the stuff hasn't been contaminated.
 
phatass said:
thanks Mr Reed!!.... but would chasing it off the foil not be "better" would it not burn at too high a temperature in a rolled cigarette for example?
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Having years of experience with both - tinfoil is MUCH more effective and seems to make both the peak and the come down duration last longer. I'd go the tinfoil route - but be very careful dosing!


Artificial Emotion said:
This is the problem with resin is it's so easy to add adulterants so there's really no way of knowing for sure that the stuff hasn't been contaminated.
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I am fairly confident that I would know almost immediately after smoking synthetics rather than actual hash. Yes, look and smell would not be a plausible way of checking, but the high would be pretty marked because of the delay of come up and the strength of come up - as well as the marked 'come down' feeling.
 
Can I increase the duration andsoon.. of MAM-2201 when I mix it with other cannabinoids like JWH-122 etc. ?? I did it sometimes with weed and it worked really well.


Achten said:
no one here that knows anything about JWH-182 ?
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Tried it a few times. It's potency is similar to JWH-122 and the high lasts long.
 
Chainer said:
I've heard it's about on par with JWH-018, heard of mild anxiety past 7mg dosages in people who use AM-2201 in 5mg doses
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I tried 15mg the first time, in the course of a few hours, in 5mg increments.
It was fun, but I had more of a trippy feeling/mood lift than relaxation/euphoria like weed.
 
treezy z said:
after the ban i went to my favorite convenience store and they had a new blend and it's stronger.
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I recently received a blend with 5f-ur144 and ur144 in it and was pleasantly surprised. Nice, clean 'up' feeling.
 
Edibles

Hey guys. I was wondering if anyone here could comment on oral dosing for the "new" cannabinoids on the market.

Specifically I was wondering what oral doses would be for:
MAM-2201
5FUR-144
UR-144

Also, what are these soluble in? Are they soluble in vegtable oil? In the past I would mix 1 Gram of JWH 122 into 1L of Vegtable oil and make some pretty awesome brownies.... around 10mg / brownie of 122 would do the trick. Now that 122 is scheduled I am looking for a viable alternative.

Thanks in advance for the advice.
 
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