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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 3

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Dissocannation :P

Never Knows Best said:
I find cannabinoids (especially in high doses) in general to be somewhat dissociative.

Anyhow, we do not cover synthetic cannabinoid discussion in PD, so PD->CD.
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I find all synthetic Cannabinoids and also Cannabis itself to be extremely dissociative when dosed on my own. It could be linked to my past abuse of Dissociative drugs but highly doubt it to be honest. I like this effect but I mainly prefer to dose when around friends when using synthetics for safety reasons.

THcrack (:
 
THcrack said:
I wish to make a smoking blend to consume my AM-2201 in a more reliable manner. I am posting today to find out the safest way for me to do so in the name of harm reduction.

Here are some my ideas:

1.) I wish to use a 70:30 mixture of Mullein leaf:Damiana.
2.) I wish to use a 800mg:28g mixture of AM-2201:'blend'.

I was wondering if anybody has had any experience with making a blend of this mixture or strength? I have read up a lot on the subject of these 'smoking blends' and find that the usual dosage for an average male is 100mg:28g of AM-2201:'blend'. I prefer to work my way up from a small dose and feel that this will enable me to do so a lot easier.
I have chosen the ratio of 70:30 of Mullein:Damiana because of the fact that high quality Mullein looks like small crumbs of Cannabis and Damiana supposedly has a "stimulating effect on libido".

Can you tell me if I am on the right lines?
THcrack (:
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Your blend comes out to be roughly 2.8mg AM-2201 to each gram of plant material, assuming that "800mg" was properly measured. It'll be strong - with minimal tolerance just half a gram of this blend could have you thrown into Narnia. Be careful, for fuck's sake. Take a small hit and wait 5 minutes for the drug to come up fully. If not totally 'there' yet, smoke a little more. Adjust and adapt to the strength, but ALWAYS leave room for error. Take two (hits), then take five (minutes of break).

* Pipes, bongs, and friends are perfect for spice, but the lingering stench will ruin it for any future cannabis use. *

Also, don't expect perfectly uniform distribution of cannabinoid:herbs. The last couple of grams will be stupidly potent, and that's the best case scenario. Your mix of mullien to damania sounds alright though, good luck. :)


A MILLIGRAM SCALE IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRULY KNOW HOW MUCH IS IN THERE, WITHOUT ONE THIS IS ALL A GUESSING GAME
 
jones-in_J said:
Oh the fits during sleep just completely turned me off lol want to get something safer sounding then that lol
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i'm not saying every one gets them and the are noted with other noids as well . also the stronger one 5fur-144 hasn't given me any at all just very very intense all most terrifying to point of insanity trips so becareful with that one to :)
 
Dexed said:
Your blend comes out to be roughly 2.8mg AM-2201 to each gram of plant material, assuming that "800mg" was properly measured. It'll be strong - with minimal tolerance just half a gram of this blend could have you thrown into Narnia.
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I started with ~6-10mg per gram doses of several synthetics when I made my own blends for the first time, and at first it would blast me to outer-space and back (or Narnia, I'm not sure)... but then came the synthetic tolerance.

The last batch I made was about 6 months back, but I used 1.5 grams of JWH-018, 700mg JWH-073, 1 gram JWH-250 and a mixture of 081 and AM-xxx (don't recall) for 28 grams of product. Tolerance on this shit is insane.

Like he suggests, go slow, over time you can get less careful, but when you start, this shit is potent. I suggest that if you get close to the tolerance I was at, you cease using the stuff. I took a very long break, but have so much pure powder laying around that I often dip a cig into the sandwhich bag now and then.
 
Looking for a Cannabinoid with very high selectivity for CB1.

In short I'm looking for a very psychedelic cannabinoid that's still legal for purchase in the US. I've read some experience reports on JWH-122 and apparently it's a nice psychedelic chem but the reports were varied and slightly unreliable on giving a nice solid report. So maybe instead of looking around myself only having experience reports to rely on I could ask you guys for your opinion on the most psychedelic cannabinoid you've tried.

Thanks for any help.
 
Ur-144 is to the cannabinoid world what crack is like to cocaine. Pleasant high, horny high, monged high, but quite short duration; just a win win win in general. Read my drugs forum posts on it to learn more. Google ur-144 experiences, mine is #6.
 
Mhm, I've only smoked K2 once when my friend offered it to me and that was a really weird experience. I would say it's like shitty weed that gives you a body high with no aspects of the "mental" high aspects that lasts for like 1-2hours. After taking like 4 drags out of my buddies one hitter I just felt really paranoid and anxious and I had a panic attack. Before trying K2 I smoked weed for about a year and never felt paranoid or had a panic attack, weird thing was the next time I smoked marijuana I felt paranoid and panicked a little bit. I wonder if the K2 triggered it? Anyone have that happen to them?
 
I just wanted to come in and say that if you smoke premade blends, you're fucking RETARDED. First off, the blends could just be plain leaves for all you know, and even if they ARE legit, (the normal ratio is 1g of chemical to 1oz) it's still a scam. Even I had to jump in, buy 3g of the shit for $45 and sell it to various people just to get in on the scam. My net profit was $300, all because people are stupid. (made $355, spent 10 on plain damiana and 45 on the powder)
 
best synthetic cannabinoid combo's ?

So Far I've tried a combo of jwh 210, jwh 122 and ur-144 in a blend and it seems actually to be a bit depressing.

Was wondering if anyone could share some good noids to mix and ratios.
 
Dexed said:
Your blend comes out to be roughly 2.8mg AM-2201 to each gram of plant material, assuming that "800mg" was properly measured. It'll be strong - with minimal tolerance just half a gram of this blend could have you thrown into Narnia. Be careful, for fuck's sake. Take a small hit and wait 5 minutes for the drug to come up fully. If not totally 'there' yet, smoke a little more. Adjust and adapt to the strength, but ALWAYS leave room for error. Take two (hits), then take five (minutes of break).

* Pipes, bongs, and friends are perfect for spice, but the lingering stench will ruin it for any future cannabis use. *

Also, don't expect perfectly uniform distribution of cannabinoid:herbs. The last couple of grams will be stupidly potent, and that's the best case scenario. Your mix of mullien to damania sounds alright though, good luck. :)


A MILLIGRAM SCALE IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRULY KNOW HOW MUCH IS IN THERE, WITHOUT ONE THIS IS ALL A GUESSING GAME
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I found by using my blend in a blender it made it very evenly distributed and havn't found any 'hotspots' or super potent hits of it and i've smoked 2.5 oz's so far.
 
The "original" Spice, containing CP-47,497, JWH-018, JWH-019 and HU-210, was the best combo i've ever tried. The containing compounds were water soluble and easy to ingest orally without any further preparation. Approx. 0,4g of the blend mixed in some food gave you at least 12 hours of blissful stonedness <3 Afaik were CP-47,497 and HU-210 never available on it's own except in this specific compound. CP-47,497 should've been the main content of Spice. Ah yes, and it's of course banned in most countries.
 
BruceLeeSwag said:
I found by using my blend in a blender it made it very evenly distributed and havn't found any 'hotspots' or super potent hits of it and i've smoked 2.5 oz's so far.
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I smoked pure AM-2201 powder for months eyeballing every dose and I've NEVER overdosed or even had a panic attack.
 
JackiesBabyy said:
I smoked pure AM-2201 powder for months eyeballing every dose and I've NEVER overdosed or even had a panic attack.
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Same here. I've on purposely pushed it a little too far one time and may have had an "overdose" although it was nothing that I couldn't handle.
 
I love smoking the real deal but cannot get hold of it very easily at the moment. I used to enjoy the old pre-ban blends such as Spice Diamond/Magic Silver etc but have tried a few of the Euro blends and find they all seem to have an edgy, paranoia inducing effect. Does anyone on here actually smoke blends? If so, any chance of a recommending a decent, currently available blend? I'm looking for a mellow relaxing smoke that stimulates the mind (and appetite!) and enhances music/visuals.

Apologies for spelling/grammar. Posting from my phone.
 
Got ahold of RCS-4, and nothing special tbh. Should up the dose which was threshold due to allergy test.
 
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