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There actually is some science regarding paranoia from cannabis.

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/31/14/5300.abstract?sid=a97631a0-0d1b-4943-9538-ec0d771694bc

Too bad none of that shit is readable to the average guy...Basically, weed kickstarts a part of your brain to start "learning" about fear.

That's mostly gibberish to me, but what I can read says that it's mostly the brain's fault... I think it's more about the person's personality and social standing, but that does make sense...
 
Most of my experience with cannabis confirms the op's assumption. That being said sometimes the reasons are baseless, in fact i would say most of the time the paranoia is completely unfounded. From my personal experience my "social anxiety" is pretty baseless and serves no good purpose to my life, weed makes it worse but just because weed makes it worse doesn't mean that there is any truth or reason behind the anxiety.
Hope that makes sense.
 
I get what you mean. it doesn`t really make sense sometimes. But when you get the bad feeling, it`s real feelings, not weird assumptions, right?
 
well ya but with weed its weird assumptions that lead to real feelings. I would say that the weird assumptions cause the social anxiety(i.e. the real feelings) The weird assumptions increase with weed compared to sober life.
(this is entirely my experience though)

so ya i would say its not a silly side effect but something brought up from "deep inside" and its predictable if the personality(anxious vs. not anxious) of the person(whoever) is known.
they should do study comparing introverts and extroverts different reactions to weed, i bet the extraverts handle it better.
 
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There actually is some science regarding paranoia from cannabis.

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/31/14/5300.abstract?sid=a97631a0-0d1b-4943-9538-ec0d771694bc

Too bad none of that shit is readable to the average guy...Basically, weed kickstarts a part of your brain to start "learning" about fear.

Main message is: Weed with more THC content = More activation in that area of the brain, so it seems cannabis with a low THC to CBD ratio would be beneficial in terms of lower rates of paranoia, makes sense considering CBD is beneficial for psychosis while THC isn't.
 
Main message is: Weed with more THC content = More activation in that area of the brain, so it seems cannabis with a low THC to CBD ratio would be beneficial in terms of lower rates of paranoia, makes sense considering CBD is beneficial for psychosis while THC isn't.

Totally understandable and a realistic theory, but now we're faced with a real issue: Finding a strain that is confirmed to have a low THC to CBD ratio. Yes, it's mostly indicas, but that only narrows it down to about 50% of the marijuana a person could ever run into. Doing actual tests on specific strains would be an excellent experiment. I don't smoking and telling people what you think, I mean actually analyzing all of the active cannabinoids in different strains.


I've generally had negative experiences with Cannabis. I'm not gonna get into it, cause frankly I could write a whole motherfucking novel about it. Despite my panic attacks, paranoia, and hypochondria while under the influence of weed, I actually found that Grand daddy purple was a change of pace. Don't get me wrong, it was uncomfortable, but a LOT less uncomfortable than other strains I've smoked. I didn't feel that total loss of surrounding environment that normally freaks the fuck out of me. Going to bed that night was pretty pleasant also. If I ever decide to have another cannabis "trip", then I'm going to try my hardest to find a nice purple indica. I'm usually not one to force myself on things, but it just isn't fair. It just isn't fair how I'm more of a man than every person I've ever tried smoking with, yet they'd be 6-7 bong hits deep and be totally alright. It was the puzzle of a fucking lifetime how they could socially function, meanwhile I'm 2 hits down and I'm thinking "what the fuck is going on? There's no way that this is what getting stoned feels like." I could care less if no one has ever died from weed. Having a panic attack on it makes me wish it just would kill me already.

I really don't think it has anything to do with self-confidence, in my case. I don't think me not liking cannabis is in my head either. My body truly does reject it in every way it can. Vomiting and getting an HR of 180+ BPM are not uncommon. Some people use Cannabis as an anxiolytic, to me it does the opposite. I really don't understand how one could prefer a joint over a few beers.
 
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If you smoke cigarettes this will not do you any good. If you like the feeling of getting stoned make some butter, hash cookies etc...

Smoking will increase your heart rate. Just go easy...Xanax is no good for you. Alot of people get paranoined when stoned thus cause anxitey (increase heart rate). i believe anyone can conqueur anxiety issues.

take care
 
I think it's all based on what you have going on mentally.
If you have anxieties, fears, etc, the herb just magnifies them, they're already there.
 
I use to be confident. Then I had 7 acid trips in 3 months and ever since then I've been a more anxious person. I'm not angry at myself, just accepting that too much weed makes me paranoid.
 
Smoking isn't any good for anxiety so it might be best to take as long a break as possible and if you do recommence smoking then try keep it as moderate as possible. I would say unless you had some other shit you didn't mention going on then the weed has contributed to your anxiety. I Don't know the implications of quitting 5htp to be fair but I don't think cessation of a not even daily caffeine habit is going to cause any real anxiety, if anything you should of felt more anxious when consuming loads of caffeine.

eeeeeeeeee why do you feel eating weed would be beneficial to him in regards to anxiety? Funny in near a decade of smoking, many years of which daily, I have never once consumed cannabis orally. Everything I have read seems to indicate it is more psychedelic and I imagine would be as likely to cause anxiety as smoking.

Xanax/alprazolam is some addictive shit man and I hope you watch yourself with it, seriously nasty withdrawals bro. I would keep dosing as minimal as possible, you REALLY don't want to end up hooked on strong benzo's.

I never been a fan of antidepressants but I am no doctor and wont tell you that you don't need them.
 
I think what you could be experiencing is just the fact that your getting older, and that your life consists of certain requirements you can't fulfill while high.

Also some people just get bored of doing the same thing all the time, but be careful because that's usually what leads others to progress into other, more dangerous drugs. I mean if you ate potatoes every single day eventually you'd want something other than potatoes.

Shit man, people change as they get older, you don't still watch Barney do you? With age, people's preferences, wants and needs, and overall lifestyle changes. I wouldn't necessarily be scared that something's wrong, your just growing up mate. I mean if you don't enjoy being high, then it shouldn't be that hard for you to quit.

But I think if you want to continue smoking (from what I've read it seems you don't have that high a tolerance since you only smoke on occasion) try smoking less. Throughout my life I've stopped here and there from a month up to a year, and when I first smoke again, I'm overwhelmed with intense paranoia cause I'm so high.
 
I think what you could be experiencing is just the fact that your getting older, and that your life consists of certain requirements you can't fulfill while high.

Also some people just get bored of doing the same thing all the time, but be careful because that's usually what leads others to progress into other, more dangerous drugs. I mean if you ate potatoes every single day eventually you'd want something other than potatoes.

True that. Can't do what you need to do when high and the desire to be high can shift ya into other shit! Gotta be real strong if ya gonna go there.
 
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I know a few people, including myself who respond very terribly to Cannabis intoxication, to the tune of panic attacks, paranoia, increased heart rate, and sometimes grim auditory hallucinations.


Honestly bro, the best thing to do is just stop. You're beating a dead horse by forcing yourself to like it.
 
With little to no tolerance and no other drugs on board, I find substantial, but still mild, effects at 2 mg orally. Effects are physically strong (drymouth like I haven't experienced in quite a while) with relative mental clarity for the duration. Speaking of which, the duration is quite satisfying with substantial lingering effects out to t+9h; this may be clarified by further experimentation but I still had it out that far. The come-up took about 2 hours to really get there - I ate it on a well-buttered piece of toast, so oil to speed absorption was definitely present.
 
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