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Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

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well pods manage to amaze me once again. i went 38 hours from my last dose, did a small maint dose, and then 8 hours did a dose to get high. it got me higher than i've been in at least a month from pods alone.

i've dosed a half cup every night for the past month at least and haven't gotten anything more than a buzz. skipping one dose and getting sick for a day really seemed to drop my tolerance, and gave me a break from constantly chasing the high that i couldn't get. i dont think it dropped my tolerance but it sorta "reset" me or something. i usually dose right before i get sick or around the 24 hour mark and felt nothing. gonna try again tonight and see if i feel anything then skip tomorrow.
 
Good news in for me, thought I'd share with others that love that bitch pod plant fucker...
I just ended 2.5 year pod addiction(1st year 2x a day 6-10 tea, 2nd year and a half: 4-10 grounds). I had a sober week here or there a couple times only, thanks to kratom).

I took all my remaining and bundled them in lessor amounts over 5 weeks, labled 1x a day dosages, in roughly 3-4 day intervals.. The very last 4 days of the taper I made knuckel and crown stew(tea) and picked out shell flakes from mass quantities of seeds.
I exercised hard 5 days a week the past two months and got another endorphin addiction to take alongside the pods. I stopped my crazy sugar tooth the last 3 weeks of the taper and ate well cutting out most meat and dairy.

I must say that it was almost painless. In fact, as I got to 3 pods and less, the high became more enjoyable and I felt better (albeit a bit emotional) than I have in years. Almost no gastrointestinal discomfort just a little restless legs at bed time, so I switched my dosing before bed and problem solved.

I have two 8 mg suboxones that I could have gone without. I've been offa da pods for a week and taken 1 mg of them 2x over the week when I felt a tiny bit of discomfort at bedtime. If I wanted to I could have kept on minimal tea doses made from scraps.

2 months ago I was hopeless. I saw no way out of this aside from the halls of medicine, paying big time for methodone or suboxone or going through employment health insurance, now I'm completely off of them.

A big sweeping taper and a couple lifestyle changes. I can't overemphasize how painless this was for me- it was actually a positive experience. The money I've paid the past two years can now go to shit I really enjoy. Halleluja!

Huge Congratulations! That's awesome. And inspiring.
 
^ I thought it wasn't possible for your tolerance to drop at all unless you abstain for much longer than a day?

i too have always been under the impression that you had to at least go through withdrawal completely to drop your tolerance at all, and even then it skyrockets in a few uses. i dont know though because i was higher last night than i've been in quite some time. it might also be psychological or the fact that i did a little 8 hours before i did the dose that got me high. that would still be 10-12 hours though.

i've noticed with pods that the shortest breaks make a big difference. my last break was only 3-4 days and i was doing oxy to maintain for part of those days. i still got wrecked when i did pods again though.

i guess my tolerance didn't drop, i dont know how to explain it though.
 
Does anyone know what variety of poppy seeds are drought resistant? Like if you wanted to scatter some seeds some place where they wont be watered, what seeds would you pick?
 
well pods manage to amaze me once again. i went 38 hours from my last dose, did a small maint dose, and then 8 hours did a dose to get high. it got me higher than i've been in at least a month from pods alone.

i've dosed a half cup every night for the past month at least and haven't gotten anything more than a buzz. skipping one dose and getting sick for a day really seemed to drop my tolerance, and gave me a break from constantly chasing the high that i couldn't get. i dont think it dropped my tolerance but it sorta "reset" me or something. i usually dose right before i get sick or around the 24 hour mark and felt nothing. gonna try again tonight and see if i feel anything then skip tomorrow.

I know exactly what you mean about not dropping the tolerance but "resetting" you. I think that dopamine is probably the primary rewarding sensation involved in opiates. I imagine it creates the warmth, euphoria, motivation, empathy, etc. The sedation aspect of opiates isn't necessarily rewarding but combined with that warmth and euphoria it can be enjoyable (and who doesn't love nodding off when you feel so good).

I'm not sure of the exact mechanism (and I don't think anyone is really) of how opiates release dopamine, but I believe that when you release large amounts of dopamine, it takes time for your brain to build up the levels again. So you take a dose of poppy tea 2 or 3 days in a row and you end up spending most of that dopamine, it gets to the point that the warmth, euphoria, and motivation disappear and you are left feeling groggy/ and or sedated. Dopamine is manufactured pretty quickly, so if you stop releasing it with opiates for 24 - 48 hours it builds back up again and then when you dose, BAM you get the excess dopamine and the rewarding effects come back.

I always notice that when I dose several days in a row, I will usually get higher at first because of the build up of morphine, but after about 3 days I just feel lazy and not really euphoric at all when I dose. Skipping a day and going 48 hours will definitely help a little bit, but my favorite method is to go 48 hours without a dose, take a maintenance dose at 48 hour mark and then take a normal dose at 72 hours. Obviously, the longer you can make it and/or taper the better it's going to be! So to sum it all up, taking short breaks from PPT doesn't necessarily reduce your tolerance by much, it just gives your brain a chance to regenerate more dopamine. More dopamine being released = more euphoria, warmth, etc.

It makes sense that this is problematic with poppy pods because of the long half life. Short acting opiates release dopamine too, but they don't do it for 12 hours like poppy pods do. As a result of this, short acting opiates are more "fiendy" than long acting ones.

Now even though I think that dopamine is probably the reason why such a short break is helpful, I do think that short breaks also cause a reduction in tolerance, just not by much. In my own experience, taking about 5 days off will cause a noticable lowering of tolerance. A couple of weeks ago I was expecting a shipment on a Wednesday and used up almost all of my pods on Monday night. The package was late, so I used the few pods I have left to kill the withdrawals Wednesday night. Thursday night I used up all of the stems I had and it was only enough to make me 90% well (I was also quite worried at this point because it was the absolute last of my poppy material). Friday night I took a moderate dose of loperamide (16 mg) and finally the package arrived saturday. I took my normal dose that night, and then when I took the same dose on Sunday I was way too high. I couldn't keep my head up and kept slouching forward while I was sitting down. I was even a little worried I may have went too far!! So those 4 days I was basically doing a rapid taper and it was enough to reduce my tolerance. It pays to be careful, if I had taken much more I could have overdosed. Sometimes tolerance drops quicker than we expect and/or realize, it just seems to take forever. Everyone is different though too, so maybe it's just me I know a lot of heavy abusers have said that even taking months off hasn't lowered their tolerance, so its probably related to the individual person and how high their tolerance actually is.
 
Dont underestimate the role of endorphins. Its not just dopamine thats involved.

Also, pod potency is not consistent. While I agree that giving yourself a break can greatly lower your tolerance, you also have to consider that you could have gotten some stronger pods this round.
 
Dont underestimate the role of endorphins. Its not just dopamine thats involved.

Also, pod potency is not consistent. While I agree that giving yourself a break can greatly lower your tolerance, you also have to consider that you could have gotten some stronger pods this round.

i was actually using the same batch that i had been using for 2 weeks prior. i know theres a chance that the few i ground up were stronger but i highly doubt it. i've taken short breaks before from running out of money or not being able to reup right away and was blown away when i got back on it.

i took my dose to get high tonight at 11 and im feeling pretty good right now. nothing mind blowing though so tomorrow im going to skip my dose. unfortunately i have work at 9 on monday so i'll probably have to take a maint dose monday morning. i hope that doesn't fuck anything up though.

i should note that last night i dosed around 10, started feeling it around 11:30 and was feeling good until 2 am. at 2 am i took a bong hit and that was it. i couldn't keep my head up or eyes open anymore and had to go to sleep. im gonna smoke probably around 2 am tonight too and see how i feel.

i do think that those 38 hours without dosing "reset" me. i was dosing every 24 hours and wasn't really getting sick at all. maybe my stomach would start to turn but it was nothing and usually i never did get sick. letting myself get sick and not chasing the high that i do every night really seemed to help. im gonna keep trying this though rather than dosing every day and see how it is.
 
Pod Tea_Calcium Carbonate

Hi everyone, I'm new to the blue light community so if I screw anything up please let me know. That aside, I have recently been researching pod tea. I ordered 100 "turkish purplish" pods from [snip souce - leftwing] 1) has anyone tried any pods from the transplant poppies? I chose them because they claim to be completely organic. 2) I have some tums (which supposedly contains calcium carbonate for morphine precipitation) to improve my arrangement, can anyone shed light on this method?? how affective is it compared to regular tea preparation? I am using a recipe I discovered on another blue light thread which is supposedly one of the best, I am debating between the sock filter and a french press, which one is preferable?
 
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You never really know with pods until you try 'em. If it's the same transplants from [snip source - leftwing], I was never that impressed (by the way, you can't name sources).

As for calcium carbonate, it never did much for me.

I've tried many recipes throughout my years of ugly pod tea addiction. The easiest, most reliable method- pour grounds in a large mug, run hot tap water, fill to top, stir, wait ten minutes, strain through a tea strainer drink, repeat. Re-do once or twice as to not waist any of the goodness. Try and space out your use, it's easy to slip up with this stuff and get hooked. Withdrawals are not pretty.
 
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. Also tea from pods is just strained and drunk straight no need to precipitate morphine as its only found in miniscule amounts you also need other alkaloids in the tea to synergise with the morphine for better effect.
 
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Dont underestimate the role of endorphins. Its not just dopamine thats involved.

Also, pod potency is not consistent. While I agree that giving yourself a break can greatly lower your tolerance, you also have to consider that you could have gotten some stronger pods this round.

Oh I'm sure it's not as simple as that, but I do think that dopamine plays an important role.
 
You'd be surprised how much you can cut you dose and still not get sick yet still catch a slight buzz. I went from doing 20 down to 12 with no real problems except that exceptional warmth and contentment that comes with an opiate high. I have my own reasons for cutting down and eventually weening off, I'm preparing to become an EMT and it wouldn't be cool to be nodding with somebody's life in your hands. That and the inevitable drug test for the job ;) Hopefully with any luck I can stay at 12 awhile then cut it down to 6 and rinse and repeat. I do find you have to dose more often though, at least at first before minor WD's set in.
 
. Also tea from pods is just strained and drunk straight no need to precipitate morphine as its only found in miniscule amounts you also need other alkaloids in the tea to synergise with the morphine for better effect.

Thats not right is it?

No offence chuchu, but I'm pretty sure that morphine is the main active opiate in pods.
 
Minimal amounts of morphine, I think.

I also thought this but being as heroin is made from morphine, which is what they get from opium sap it leads me to think I was wrong.

I believe the long half life of seed/pod tea is due to the interactions that the various other alkaloids in the tea have with the morphine inhibiting its metabolism.
 
Morphine is actually one of the major alkaloids. Its fairly abundant as far as its ratio against the other alkaloids.
 
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