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Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

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I don't see why. It's also more of a powder than a putty. The method I described produces a brown powder.

You can see the alkaloids melt and boil (vaporize) which you then inhale. After that the powder burns and forms a hard crust that can be broken up and pulled though the hole.

The morphine will vaporize within the powder matrix. It doesn't have to be extracted. :)

I sound like pitch man for evaporated poppy seed tea (oh yeah I use seeds for my tea).

I should mention I don't use any acids in my extraction water. This way the alkaloids have a chance of staying in freebase form which is better for vaporization.
 
^No wonder, you use seeds! The method you described does not work for pods. That explains the confusion. Pod (not seed) putty contains far too many lipids to allow for vaporization of the product.
 
Okay, sorry for the confusion.

Then why not use seeds? I think it'd be easier than pods. Seeds can be gotten at any bulk foods store and most of them aren't washed; mine aren't anyway.
 
Well maybe I should but apparently they're quite hit or miss. I'd hate to make a long trip and spend £££ only to find out they've been washed when I get home. Also I need about 300g pod straw to get high (maybe more nowadays) and to get the same amount of morphine from seeds I'd have to use an awful lot. The seeds do seem appealing though. Only if they were...

What do you think? Given the amount I'd need (I have no idea how to convert the dose between mass of pod straw and mass of seeds), are seeds feasible for me? I need about 240mg methadone to get nicely high and nod if that gives a more accurate estimate of my tolerance.
 
Of course it all depends on individual tolerance but I find 200g of seeds does me good.

Of course 10mg of oxycodone (2 percs) is as high as I can go with them without getting nausea. 2 percs is a decent opiate experience for me.
 
Basically non-existent tolerance and I'm a total lightweight in all drug categories.

I just find drugs to be self-limiting. If I do too many opiates I'll feel tired and lifeless and get fed up with feeling like that so I stop the opiates before it gets out of hand. Same deal for benzos.

Never had a problem with stims. They're very self-limiting. If I get tweaked and sketched out I want to come down, not keep going. :\

And, well psychedelics don't even count. ;)

I trip every weekend pretty much, with breaks when i don't feel up to it.
 
I found alcohol self-limiting for almost 15 years before I developed some dependency issues. I find it really depends on the person and their proclivity for addiction.
 
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I have read on Wikepedia that if one eats more than say 8 pods than one will not get any higher by eating 20 instead of 6-8 pods. I don't know if this is true because I sometimes feel like the re-doses I take aren't doing much depending on situation and time of day, diet, etc.

I know codeine has a celing dose but the codeine in pods is probably very little to none so that wouldn't be the problem.



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Okay, here is my take on this subject. I don't think that there is necessarily a ceiling dose with pods, but instead it becomes more like methadone maintenance in that when you take a long acting opiate daily, even massively increasing the dose doesn't really get you high.

I have been using for over a year now and I constantly run into tolerance issues with PPT. It seems that most of the positive effects just fade until you give your brain a chance to reset (which unfortunately means withdrawals :( ). For instance, my current tolerance to pods is probably about 5 - 8 large pods. If I took a week long break, 5 pods would probably get me very high again on the first day with lots of euphoria, motivation, warmth, itchiness, etc. On the 2nd day, the dopamine aspect seems to diminish and I'll usually feel more like nodding, the stimulation/motivation factor diminishing considerably.

Each day that I would dose again would end up with me feeling less effects, probably because all of the dopamine has been released from the long lasting action of poppy tea. Eventually, even if I took a double dose of 10 pods, I still wouldn't have the desirable effects. I mean sure, I might feel something, but it's only a shadow of what it once was. So I end up spending a lot of my time in withdrawal/tapering in order to keep my tolerance in check.

Hope this helps.
 
I personally used to find increasing the dose of pods increased the high in a linear fashion. I was using massive doses towards the end of my love affair as well.
 
Has anyone here quit pod tea by going on suboxone? If so how did that work out for you? In my mind using pods you're addicted to multiple alkaloids at once, and I was wondering if bupe alone would make one feel better during wd since it lacks all the other alkaloids. I have a 18 jumbo/20 large pod tea habit and 20mg of suboxone and with a habit like mine the pods are becoming an expensive one. Anyone have any thoughts or experiences on this? Thanks a lot folks
 
^^What QuasiStoned said. Daily dose pods for an extended period and it becomes a 'maintenance' thing & the buzz/euphoria fades.

For me, raising the dose of pods (I eat the grounds straight) merely caused nausea & lethargy & made me feel shit in the mornings, so I decided enough was enough & that I had to taper.

Thing is, it was so much easier & better than I expected. From several pods a day for 6 months or so, after 3 weeks I'm down to a couple of teaspoons of pod powder a day at most, and the odd day with nothing. And I actually now get high off that dose.

So anyone embarking on a taper, or thinking of doing so, take heart. It may not be as bad as you're dreading it to be:)
 
tapers, or breaks, seem to help way more with pods then they do with other opiates, at least in my experience. i too was using really large amounts of pod powder at a time trying to get high and not getting anything. nowadays i take it easy. stick to the same dose, only dose once per day, which lately is around midnight or later, and always smoke weed with it. i still get a slight buzz sometimes but its nowhere near where i want to be.

on another note, i got a friend some pods the other day and he really seemed to fuck himself up. i gave him some pre-measured out small doses to just try, but he is a big guy and ended up doing more. i THINK he just did too much and ended up with a migraine / vomiting which often happens when you overdo long acting opiates, but now he is in the hospital with a bacterial infection or something. he overdid it twice of the maybe 5 times he did it total. the second time he drank one small glass of tea, which i didn't think was even that strong. he did say he wasn't able to go to the bathroom though since he started so he had 2 or 3 doses of pod powder in his stomach at that time. seemed weird though and i really didn't expect that to happen.

weird, anyway, i need to take a 2-3 day break. last forced break i took had me clean for about 2 days, doing oxy on another 2. when i finally got pods again i was FLOORED from 1/4 cup. so tempting to just take a maint dose for a couple days maybe skip a day here or there, its just so hard :(
 
For me, raising the dose of pods (I eat the grounds straight) merely caused nausea & lethargy & made me feel shit in the mornings, so I decided enough was enough & that I had to taper.
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Precisely my experience. I have been a little worked up over this girl lately and was dosing pretty much daily and had reached the point where I wasn't catching a buzz anymore. I skipped dosing for a day (pretty easy for me to do with the long half life) and then took a double dose at the 48 hour mark and all I felt was a tiny buzz accompanied by slight nausea and apathy.

I also agree tapering is the way to go. It's ridiculously easy to do with pods, all you have to do is exercise some control. I do realize that can be difficult to do, but if you're not getting high anymore it's really the only way to go. You can do it as quickly or slowly as you want to and can take the withdrawals one step at a time. The hard part for me is breaking the cycle of "trying" to get high, but like I said if you aren't getting high anyway it's the only thing you can do to get the magic back.

After my double dose failed to get me high thursday night, I took a 48 hour break by taking nothing on Friday (I only started to feel the withdrawals on Friday night) and then waiting until saturday night to redose. I was feeling pretty awful by the 48 hour mark (depressed, unmotivated, restless, yawning, etc.) but then I did a rewash of some spent pod grounds and drank about 3/4 of it. It didn't quite get me well, but it was enough to really take the edge off the withdrawals and allowed me to sleep too. I was probably feeling about 80% normal (where before I was probably at about a 25%, probably about 12 hours from full blown withdrawal) and that was my purpose, to reduce the withdrawals but not to get 100% well or high because it would slow down the reduction of tolerance.

Today was a little bit tough because I got up and went to work in mild withdrawals, but I was still quite functional and had no trouble interacting with people and doing my job (I even spent a lot of time laughing and joking with my coworkers). When I got home tonight I made a brew from 6 pods and sure enough, I'm feeling it again. And that was only 2 days spent in withdrawal.

Of course, this was intended to be a quick (and very brief) taper, but you can take as much as you need to get yourself well again, the trick is to not go overboard. I usually make a brew using 1/4 of the pods that it takes for me to get high (so if I needed 7 for a buzz, I would only use 2 for my get well dose). You have to feel some withdrawal, but you can take it as slowly as you need to. IME it gets easier to maintain yourself after you get through the first few days. I usually feel a little dull and flatlined at first, but that's just a side effect from the opiate abuse. After a few days away from getting high the apathy seems to dissipate and I actually start to feel things again and notice a clarity of mind that I do not have when I am chasing the high.
 
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If making poppy SEED tea using the "rinse the seeds with hot water by shaking them up in 2L soda bottles, then strain by loosening the lids a bit and squeezing" technique, when and how could lemon juice be used to facilitate the process?


Would one just squeeze some lemon juice into the seed/water mixture prior to shaking?

If not, what is the best technique for using lemon juice to increase potency?


Appreciate any replies :D



Edit: Also... using boiling water - yay or nay?
 
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anyone experienced with ice-0-lation process

im wanting to know if there are any people here who have tried it, and what was your experience with it.
 
Well I just did a google search on this tek, and after going through a few tl;dr posts, I have come to this conclusion: Just make pod tea, and drink it. Two simple steps is all it takes :D
 
squeeze it into the bottle with the poppy seeds and let sit a couple minutes before adding water. Then add lukewarm water and let sit for a couple minutes, then shake violently for a couple minutes.
 
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