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Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

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Sentience said:
Does anyone have any experience combining PPT with pharms? Which pharms are good to combine with PPT and which ones will lead to over sedation or an overall bad experience?
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Occasionally I take zopiclone with my pods, goes really well with em. Only one 7.5 mg tablet tho =Dotherwise you'll 'nod' a bit more than you bargained for.

Zopiclone is a great recreational drug when used wisely imo. Far more to it than just a 'sleeping tablet'...

And this has probably been asked before, but what about Kratom?
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Doesn't seem to enhance opiates in my experience, dunno why. I use kratom on those days when I'm not taking opiates.

;)Kratom is excellent for relieving opiate withdrawals btw.
 
Levvytation said:
;)Kratom is excellent for relieving opiate withdrawals btw.
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Kratom really would be a godsend if it didn't stimulate me so much (even the so called "sedative strains").

But when I'm in wds I'm usually ALREADY shakey, the Kratom seems to get rid of the pain and general feeling of shit, but it adds to the shakes.

So instead of feeling like I'm wd from poppies, I feel like I'm on speed, literally. I'd use Kratom right now to get off pods if it wasn't for that little problem I have with it making me so damn shakey.
 
Yeah know what you mean about the stimulation with kratom.

Its said that at low doses its a stimulant & at higher doses a sedative, however the stim effect seems to me to be present at all doses.

A small amount of alcohol helps make kratom more relaxing for me.
 
Bojangles69 said:
1) Vendors are ALREADY skiing on the thin side of the law, 99% of them know this and the LAST thing you will see a vendor do is even refer to poppies outside of the realm of crafting, nevermind actually milking the pods themselves. Most vendors are too nervous to even say the word "poppy tea" nevermind incriminating themselves to that level. It just doesn't make sense. These are people with fairly large operations, they know they are prob being watched by *someone (who knows who) but I couldn't see an established vendor even considering something like that.. or maybe its denial talking but I still wouldn't buy it.
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true that. i pick up in person from one of ebays larger vendors (if not the largest) and we haven't even ever mentioned anything about getting high, grinding them, anything at all. i can just tell that any talk like that is 100% off limits. we dont even say the word pod or anything to each other.

its a father son operation actually and i deal with the son exclusively now, but the ONLY time i've heard anything about pods from either of them was once i picked up from his dad and he said "these are some good ass ones." and thats it. they are extremely careful and if i say the wrong thing that will probably be the end of it. i alsoi couldn't believe how big their operation was until i saw it with my own eyes. they both basically live off of it alone with no need to work.
 
How the fuck can people get away with growing poppies in massive quantities in the us? Do they have to have intense security for the government to let them grow them?

I am really surprised that a country like the USA that is so strict on drugs allows it, even Australia which is fairly lax in comparison don't even let seeds be sold unless they have been washed before hand.
 
Using poppy tea to kick other opiates

Lately i have been reading about poppy pods and stuff online and i have never tried them and dont even know anyone who ever has...............Do they actually work and could you use them to kick other opiates ?
I find it hard to believe they are legal to order online and that they really can get you high , yet i never met anyone who has done them
 
Yes they really do work. I don't see them being very useful in kicking other opiates though as you will more than likely just end up addicted to the pods. I mean maybe if you only used the bare minimum to not feel WD's, and slowly weaned off maybe. I'd say highly unlikely that this would work though.

The withdrawals are also suppose to be a lot worse as they last 2x's as long or so.
 
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agreed. You'll most likely end up addicted to pods which is an absolute bitch to kick. What opiate are you addicted to?
 
aquinof1 said:
Dont because when u ingest poppy pods u are ingesting the WHOLE pod which means u are ingesting thebaine, morphine, etc which means u will withdrawal from every single alkaloid which means u withdrawals will suck even more. Trust me I have been thru pod wds and I never will again. Shit I'll take oxycontin wds over pods anyday
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Have you looked at alkaloid content of pods? Beyond morphine, there are only tiny amounts of the thebaine, papaverine, noscapine, etc. Morphine comprises about 12% of the alkaloid content and codeine is second at around 1-3%, the rest are even a smaller portion.

Pod withdrawals suck because, for whatever reason, they are long acting but beyond that you are almost exclusively feeling the same thing people withdrawing from equivalent amount of morphine are. As far as I know, the quantities of the alkaloids beyond morphine and codeine are generally not present in sufficient quantities to produce a substantial abstinence syndrome. If they were, people wouldn't be able to escape pod withdrawals substituting another opioid/opiate because the other alkaloids are not mu receptor agonists.
 
True perhaps ^. But I doubt many people can order heroin online and receive it at their front door. ;)

But back to the topic, pods are not a good route to go when trying to kick. Like C2tL said, they stay in your system for a good while and causes a long uncomfortable withdrawal. Unfortunately, they will probably cause more problems upon discontinuation. :|
 
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Cane2theLeft said:
Have you looked at alkaloid content of pods? Beyond morphine, there are only tiny amounts of the thebaine, papaverine, noscapine, etc. Morphine comprises about 12% of the alkaloid content and codeine is second at around 1-3%, the rest are even a smaller portion.

Pod withdrawals suck because, for whatever reason, they are long acting but beyond that you are almost exclusively feeling the same thing people withdrawing from equivalent amount of morphine are. As far as I know, the quantities of the alkaloids beyond morphine and codeine are generally not present in sufficient quantities to produce a substantial abstinence syndrome. If they were, people wouldn't be able to escape pod withdrawals substituting another opioid/opiate because the other alkaloids are not mu receptor agonists.
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Ya the chances of getting a pod with high thebaine is extremely rare. Those are cultivated with the intent to manufacture drugs like oxycodone and are not at all common. That would be like planting a seed from a bag of swag and somehow growing haze, not happening. Besides raw thebaine isn't safe anyways.
 
^ OT but... High-thebaine content poppies are apparently common in Australia (Tasmania). Not sure about elsewhere. Apparently it's more profitable to grow high-thebaine then turn that into whatever opioid rather than trying to grow high-codeine or whatever. Could be wrong though...

To the OP: there is bundles or information on poppy tea her and elsewhere. Check out the megathread here in Other Drugs or the thread in Trip Reports.
 
I thought Tasmanian Purps have exceptionally high morphine content? They are more expensive that's for sure... Thebaine sucks lol
 
is it worth it ? are there reliable places to get from ? i hear if u use more than once a week u get a bad habit . so sounds like dope is safer lol
 
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