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he leaves it to us to do what we do with what we have, just like a parent he gave us life but its ultimalty upto us what we do with it .

There is no Book that says everything u do till your dead, we write the pages of our own biography with the actions we take.
 
alasdairm said:
^ while i agree with that in principle, i think the problem arises not with the concept of god but what (certain) christians then do in his name.

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I'm not sure I understand what you mean. How is this related to the original questions?
 
God exists if you believe in god. Science and religion are parallel, they will never meet, they will never be able to explain why one another exist.

There is spirituality, which is BELIEF in god, it cannot be proven or disproven, it doesnt need to be. That is because it is something very personal that is inside each individuals head.

Then there is science, which is what to most is proven by facts and measurements, etc. Science is an explanation for people that believe in logic.

Does it matter whether it is true?

Life is all about what you believe.
 
It's funny how we view the supreme - we project our own limitations onto it.

Maybe the supreme wishes to be hidden and only reveal itself every now and then to show us the way - via the words of prophets and holy men.

A being (or beings) with a will free from all obstructions would have no problem hiding themselves via psychic powers.
 
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Helios. said:
'why we have to eat and drink?'
Eve ate the apple. They bacteria in your stomach and digestive tract will eat your body after you are dead.

'why do we have to breathe?'
oxygen is necessary for the oxidation of food which gives us energy.

'why are there diseases?'
we live in an imperfect world.

'why are [some] ppl selfish and mean?'
b/c they choose to be.

'why can't everyone be happy?'
to tell the truth, they are as happy or as unhappy as they want to be.

'why do we have to have wars and violence?'
on a large scale, right wars arise between the battle between forces of good and of evil. on a small scale, violence oftentimes arises from jealousy and other types of sin.

'why can't we spend our lives like we want to spend them?'
who's stopping you?

'why doesn't god supply us with an unlimited supply of our favorite drug(s)?'
the money driven black market and big pharma interests, along with the problem of government intrusion into personal freedoms of choice, thwart that effort.

'why can't everyone live as long as they want?'
in this life, b/c 'Adam and Eve' ate the apple, caught diseases, violence and war occur, etc.
in the long term, they can.

'why did god make us live on this planet?'
lila.
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because adam and eve ate an apple? cmon , if you honestly believe that you are a complete moron
 
Dyno_oz said:
It's funny how we view the supreme - we project our own limitations onto it.

Maybe the supreme wishes to be hidden and only reveal itself every now and then to show us the way - via the words of prophets and holy men.

the supreme will reveal itself when we are receptive

A being (or beings) with a will free from all obstructions would have no problem hiding themselves via psychic powers.
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exactly. the supreme will reveal itself when we are receptive and when all barriers which prevent us from being receptive vanish.
 
Survival0200 said:
I've been thinking if god exists, why did he make this world and people like we are now? If god exists, tell me why:

... we have to eat and drink? We might as well work without eating and drinking. With solar power for example.

... why do we have to breath? We wouldn't have to do that necessarily.

... why there are deceases? This world would be so much better without deceases and a lot of people would be happier.

... why people are selfish and mean? Why? Tell me that? Why do we have to make the people around us feel sorrow from time to time?

... why everyone can't be happy?

... why does there have to be wars and violence?

... why can't we spend our lives just how we'd like to spend it?

... why god doesn't supply us with infinite supply of our favorite drug if we would want so?

... why can't we have everything we like?

... why can't everyone live as long as they want?

... why did god make us live in this planet?

Everything could be different.
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God would say to you that mans life is short and filled with problems.
 
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Survival0200 said:
I've been thinking if god exists, why did he make this world and people like we are now? If god exists, tell me why:

... we have to eat and drink? We might as well work without eating and drinking. With solar power for example.

... why do we have to breath? We wouldn't have to do that necessarily.

... why there are deceases? This world would be so much better without deceases and a lot of people would be happier.

... why people are selfish and mean? Why? Tell me that? Why do we have to make the people around us feel sorrow from time to time?

... why everyone can't be happy?

... why does there have to be wars and violence?

... why can't we spend our lives just how we'd like to spend it?

... why god doesn't supply us with infinite supply of our favorite drug if we would want so?

... why can't we have everything we like?

... why can't everyone live as long as they want?

... why did god make us live in this planet?

Everything could be different.
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I bumped this thread because i started thinking about it recently and decided to search for it.
 
Portillo, let me take this opportunity to say I admire the way you've mellowed out immensely since your early BL days, but have not given up your faith in the process.
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
Portillo, let me take this opportunity to say I admire the way you've mellowed out immensely since your early BL days, but have not given up your faith in the process.
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MyDoorsAreOpen youve been on my back since i got here... :) ;) P.S Whatever happened to "zorn"?
 
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^^^ zorn is still around. He just posted in the thread about M theory and tangible entities. He's one of those people who barely ever says anything, but when he does, it's something solid that can't be fucked with, and everybody listens.
 
I don't think God posts in P & S that much.

Maybe he uses a diferent username tho ?

A poll on which username is most likely to be God ( posing as mortal) would be good fun & extremely interesting.

Choosing from the top ten posters in P & S over the last quarter.

Just a passing thought.
 
I think the idea of God as an identity kind of silly. It's just a way to make the eternal essence of existence significant to humans.

Religion is just so egocentric. Obviously, animals couldn't take part in such an idea. To move on to an afterlife means that there has to be a conception of self. So to believe in religion one would have to believe that at some point humans evolved a divinity trait, which (as stupid as it is to hypothesize) wouldn't be advantageous towards survival in any way. The fact is that eternal essence isn't something that can evolve in a biological organism because it goes beyond biological existence. I guess that is the main reason that there is such a conviction in religious rejection of evolution.

So i think the main question would be:

At one point did humans evolve an eternal nature?

But that contradicts all religious belief anyway.
 
How about the idea that YOU are God (eternity, the void, whatever u want to call it) We are the universe subjectively experiencing itself. You will die as a human individual organism, but you will not really die. How can you die if you are the universe? You will always be here in some form or another because you are all there is to be. Why are you experiencing everything from the human perspective as of now? How did we end up in this dimension? This is part of the great mystery of life and we will never be able to prove why we exist in the form we do right now, but one thing for certain (in my perspective) is that "I am he who that was and he who shall be"- Tibetan Book of the Dead.

It is one thing to read this but it is another thing to ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE IT. It is truly marvelous. Actually it isn't anything, it just IS.
 
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