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MDxx Pills Disappearing... Piperazine Pills Taking Over?

MrIbis said:
I think it's seriously time we started doing more research into the possibility of MDMA replacements in this drought, surely methylone would be a decent step up from the garbage on the streets right now
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Surely you mean mephedrone as that appears to be alot safer than methylone, unless your comment was implying that even that crap bk-pmma is greater than the X being sold at the present, in which case i agree.

2009 the year ecstasy died.
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I feel there is a lot of truth in that statement. Ecstasy = MDMA is dead, Ectasty = X, where X=pma,pip, low mdxx, speed, caffein, nothing but binders, is back. Perhaps the word is not dead, but clearly the definition has changed :(
 
perhaps we can organise a national boycott of pills? lets hurt those dealers... until they stop selling crap. lol. (dreaming i know)
 
Ah well I know ravers who're into their 40's, no reason I can't rock out with a few gray hairs :D
perhaps we can organise a national boycott of pills? lets hurt those dealers... until they stop selling crap. lol. (dreaming i know)
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Too many kids out there who don't know the difference between a clean MDMA high and feeling messy and fucked up on pipes and K and god knows what else, they don't even realise what they're missing out on.

God I can't believe I've actually turned into one of those 'pills were so much better in my day!' guys.
 
But thats just it! The greedy dealers think they can get away with putting nothing, or adulterants in their pills and even the stupidest young buck I know won't stand for that shit. And seriously, there's a a lot of retarded newbies out there... Frustrates the shit out of me when I'm out clubbing!
 
To be fair, you can't lay this on the club dealers/distributors, they don't make the pills, it's the guys higher up with the presses who are throwing these godawful imitation pills together.
 
^ then its the vicious cycle of everyone trying to get the money they just lost from buying duds. Then at the very end of the chain, its the consumer that gets fucked over.
 
Crankinit said:
Ah well I know ravers who're into their 40's, no reason I can't rock out with a few gray hairs :D

Too many kids out there who don't know the difference between a clean MDMA high and feeling messy and fucked up on pipes and K and god knows what else, they don't even realise what they're missing out on.

God I can't believe I've actually turned into one of those 'pills were so much better in my day!' guys.
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Lol if you are 20yrs old (well you said you'd be 40 in 2029) then you were not even born when i first took mdma and yes it was good back then. :) .. the original doves, the sannyassin (rahjneeshi ..orange people) tabs before the doves even. Now they WERE good pills. I can remember when that first pill laden Jaguar made it to oz... this was before the 2nd summer of love..before house music. They were the days.
 
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Romie1092 said:
^ then its the vicious cycle of everyone trying to get the money they just lost from buying duds. Then at the very end of the chain, its the consumer that gets fucked over.
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Exactly. It's also why I never buy pills off people who aren't normally dealers unless I am very close to them, I don't necessarily blame people for trying to pass off pills they've purchased and found out are duds to try get their money back, but I don't want to be the next one in the game of hot potato.
 
Sorry I meant manufacturers, not dealers. Don't drink and post kids.

Does anyone think (hope) manufacturers realise the market is fading fast and decide to lift their game and start making half decent bickies? If not, I can honestly say my days of consuming pills may very well be over.
 
well, you guys are saying that it isnt the dealers fault, i think to an extent it is they're fault. Me and my mate gave so much shit to our dealer because he was selling green batmans (complete duds) followed by beige mitsubishi again complete duds. These were the pills he had during the last 3 weeks or so after a 1 yr streak of atleast medium mdxx pills. We gave him so much shit that he has decided to quit, he isnt selling right now even though he can 'get on', he isnt. Because its doing damage to his 'rep' and that is the reason why we pay the extra $$ to get it from him. My guy has quit selling untill he can get some good stuff, if he has bad stuff again i just dont think we'll buy off him.... anyway, what i am getting at is that the manufactuers get their pay load from the dealers if they stop selling, the cooks are going to step up.... its everyone's fault including us; the consumer. ...... How does anybody suggest we solve this problem?
 
A dealer shouldnt deal if he/she doesnt know what they are selling. The only way to stop this bullshit is to stop buying pills completley and if u find that the pills arnt mdma then take it back not sell it this is including dealers. But try telling this too 17-18 year old kids who liek to get fuked up on anything cos they havnt had any real mdma before and they think whatever gets em fuked up its good.
 
a mate got four pills the other weekend. i asked for a bite just to see what they were - definately not mdma.

probably originated in sydney but who knows. (i'm in country new south wales)... white aeroplanes, pretty standard size: 8mm round by 4mm, no bevel, a few grainy specks but not many. tasted sour at first then felt kinda fizzy. first time i've tasted pills like that.

i passed on them. he took two and said he got no loved up feeling, just rushing, talking quick. obv some sort of meth/speed/pip combination.

fucking shit.
 
mushi mushi 88 said:
A question to think over: Do you think the majority of pipe pills that are being pressed are done on our shores or do you think they are imported???'
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Id have to say the pipe flips are being made here in WA. I recently came in contact with a load that came from the Eastern States, and these were decent flips.

Went out on Sat night, took 2 that came from the ES, awsome, then my mate wanted some more, so we found this dude that was selling, mate brought 2, and i gave them a lick, i was in pain for 10 mins or so because it felt like acid was burning through my tongue...After i recovered, i put them under a light and yep they were defiantly pipes, so just threw them down a drain. My mate was Devo but grateful at the same time.

So yea id say there making them here in WA, and all the good stuff from the ES.
 
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That's pretty interesting considering most people in the ES on here are saying that can't get any decent pills there.

SA is running quite dry, too dry.
Lots of raids.

But still yet to see any pips. Cause hey, why press them when you can press duds -_-
 
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