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MDPV Megathread

I dont like the way most of the MDVP I have come accross has been wet. Is this the Norm?
 
Two weeks with MDPV

I was taking MDPV for about two weeks every day. Now it is about two weeks that I took the last dose. The first day I took 2 mg orally. The last day I took 12mg rectally. So I would say that that some tolerance was built in me. The last dose was approximately equivalent to snorting two crushed 10mg Ritalin tablets as to both stimulation and duration. I snort crushed Ritalin only occasionally, say, once a month, as I think it is rather too much habit-forming and I also have an impression that the total bioavailability of methylphenidate is diminished. But I ask the many of you, who are much much more educated in this area, i.e. biochemistry, pharmacology etc., please correct my opinion and any information about what route of administration of Ritalin, not taking into account i.v. application, has the greatest total bioavailability would be appreciated. So after two weeks of use I would say that MDPV is rather useless and nasty compound. But before I developed the tolerance to MDPV, it subjectively and perhaps also objectively substantially improved the analytic and creative part of my cognitive abilities. Further, I was more prone to talk with people but it wasn’t the type of garrulity occurring in inebriated people, I had a tendency to create long sentences with precise logical complicated structure bifurcating into even more complicated substructures etc. and I used rarely used words or words in a not nonsensical but unusual or novel context. So in this sense MDPV could be useful for, say, writers or poets of certain forms of literature. But strangely enough, creating novel use and context for both usual and unusual words I had at the same time an increased capacity to think analytically or, say, mathematically. For example, if I asked a clerk for something, before he realized what I am asking, I started to enumerate all his possible answers with respective probabilities. So another use of MDPV would be to read and contemplate (yes, I spotted this word in C.C.Pugh’s beautiful “Real Mathematical Analysis” :) ) some good mathematical book or paper. The last observation: I was extremely thirsty and had a dry mouth after ingesting the MDPV.

If you find any peculiarities in my written output, please take into account, that English is not my native language, before ascribing them to the compounds, the influence of which, I am under, or to my neurological illness which I suffer from :)
 
MDPV's virtues shine as a prosexual, en par with meth. However, tolerance seems to build quite fast and leads to very frequent redosing. The best effects are acheived by stacking small doses over some hours to effect. This may take many mgs and is not apparent until that level is reached. Perhaps coriolis' primates never pushed the compound high enough. lower dose gradual daily use would quickly kick in a tolerance and mask many of the higher dose effects. Test monkeys did not feel much of anything with MDPV until going past 10 mg. Not to say that MDPV is all that great, but usage patterns and dose change the effects greatly. One big downside of higher dose use is the compulsivity comes into play much more prominently.
 
fizzacyst said:
I don't get how people can use this stuff constantly. Its one of, if not the most, off-putting drug I've ever taken. Its pretty much guaranteed to make me feel like hell. 1 dose and I can't even think about taking it again for weeks (ended up flushing it).

Maybe I'm wired oddly.
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If you are, then so am I.

With any stimulant, too much of a good thing will throw ay person off balance and make them feel totally "off" and for a lightweight like me it doesn't take much in general, but...

...apart from cocaine, MDPV is the one drug that's really consistent at doing this to me very quickly. At lower doses it doesn't fully deliver, and at higher does (8-10mg in my book) there's a steep come-up and a time of great euphoric clarity followed very quickly (T+1.5-2h 'til late) by uncomfortable overstimulation and the ensuing restlessness/scatteredness and all it ensues. The total opposite of calm, of groundedness, of clarity.

I don't think I will ever use it again.

perhaps one of my problems with stimulants in general is that I do not like the crash at all, that the crash comes quickly forme as I tend to get overstimulated and then lose the "fun" aspect of it as it turns serious, and that during the dysphoric time of the crash the furthest thing from my mind is a top-up -since I remember from my coke/meth experiences that this will only make the overall personality wreckage worse. Wide awake yet so terribly tired and burnt-out and not knowing where to look when in company... no thanks, I'd rather be whole :|

People who keep topping up 'till they're alone (if they use in a party setting) might find it easier to use, but for some reason I just can't bring myself to keep topping up... at some point I just wanna go and wish i could sleep... but don't wanna use a downer cos that's surefire way of messing up further in the long run...
 
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General alcazar said:
MDPV's virtues shine as a prosexual, en par with meth. However, tolerance seems to build quite fast and leads to very frequent redosing. The best effects are acheived by stacking small doses over some hours to effect. This may take many mgs and is not apparent until that level is reached. Perhaps coriolis' primates never pushed the compound high enough. lower dose gradual daily use would quickly kick in a tolerance and mask many of the higher dose effects. Test monkeys did not feel much of anything with MDPV until going past 10 mg. Not to say that MDPV is all that great, but usage patterns and dose change the effects greatly. One big downside of higher dose use is the compulsivity comes into play much more prominently.
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Yup... looks like we're in complete agreement in regard to how MDPV is 'best' used. Definitely almost becomes a different substance when dosed that way. But of course, stuff like having downers lying around is almost essential when building a high blood level of a stimulating drug.
Ximot said:
I don't think I will ever use it again.
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If for some reason you ever find MDPV difficult to avoid, could you drop me an Email and tell me why? My curiosity would really be getting the better of me at that point 8) :p.
 
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there once was a man
who had a small plan
and thought he could face all addictions
with a lifetime supply of MDPV
he thought he would have no restrictions.
alas the fine print escaped his small mind -
a moral for ones with more brains - for should he have noted PV's MOA, he woulda have saved many pains.
a lifetime is long as a piece of string, not so for the precious grammage, in mere short weeks, the amount consumed should surely have caused still more damage.
but the good lords benevolence to idiots and drunks does not extend to those around, and soon our hapless hero found that himself a holy man indeed, a hole in pocket, hole in soul and not himself entirely, um, whole or rather short on those who could his follies tolerate, they chose to migrate to the milder madmens circles. and milligrams had lost all meaning, effective in the single digits once, 1E4 over too short a day became not so uncommon, nor perchance.

the proof of the pudding is in the eating, Sasha says, should serve as test to safety of chems, alas protagonist of this here tale should be dead, but maybe it was humble pie he ate instead?
 
nanobrain said:
there once was a man
who had a small plan
and thought he could face all addictions
with a lifetime supply of MDPV
he thought he would have no restrictions.
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Eegads... not to agree with anyone about small brains, but that is in fact just this side of stupidity. IME a "lifetime supply" of any dopaminergic stimulant would merely guarantee an extremely short lifetime. MDPV is nothing special or unusual in that regard, but I guess its categorization as a "research chemical" may tend to fool people who are inexperienced or aren't thinking clearly about the issue for one reason or another. Might be why it has disappeared from the RC scene at this point, although I hope that isn't the case.
 
More likely it disappeared from the RC market because it is difficult to make. Something that popular would surely bait someone's greed if it were acquirable by now. I think there is no one out there making it ...
Just as well that it is not more available -
And another possible outcome of a lifetime's dopaminergic stimulants would be a tolerance so high as to impart immunity on the user. Who knows....
 
General alcazar said:
Just as well that it is not more available -
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Not to me... it's not 'just as well' that it's totally unavailable. If it were only offered by one or two sellers that would be different, but I don't see any point in it being unobtainium. In my experience, it's much milder and less risky than desoxypipradrol*, although somewhat more compulsive.

Incidentally... people make such a huge deal about compulsivity (perhaps due to associated feelings of guilt), but I'd rather see someone heavily overdoing MDPV than cocaine; it's cheaper, more legal, likely safer, and may be self-limiting in that dopamine psychosis is incredibly unpleasant and a few 'lessons' might act to curb use (admittedly unproven, but I tend to believe this myself... trauma has a powerful effect on the human psyche).

*Check the desoxypipradrol thread... compared to the number of people who must be experimenting with it, there's a deafening silence. Or just drop me an Email, I'll tell you all about it.
 
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^^ & now there's a TDS moderator who agrees with me, 'nuff said ;)... (glad I'm able to smile about it, although that was only after realizing I'm glad to still be around to do anything at all).
 
General alcazar said:
More likely it disappeared from the RC market because it is difficult to make. Something that popular would surely bait someone's greed if it were acquirable by now. I think there is no one out there making it ...
Just as well that it is not more available -
And another possible outcome of a lifetime's dopaminergic stimulants would be a tolerance so high as to impart immunity on the user. Who knows....
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Nah, it's available if you're willing to search ;)
 
I know what AuraithX means. It's probably available via custom synthesis as well, but that would come back to "paying out your arse" once again (total payment + shipping costs, in this case). I assume that's what f&b meant, unless he was looking for about two dozen PM's or something :p.
 
What irritates my monkeys about MDPV is that it is as empty as cocaine is as far as the high is conerned. I did not say unobtainium, but less available. This stuff would probably be illegal if it was easier to find and cheaper. It shares many of the compulsive qualities of cocaine without the benefit of cooking it into crack. My monkeys like it, but then again, My monkeys were once crackheads. They have also lost many 12-24 hour periods spinning on this stuff and would rather dose a psychedelic at this point. Not that the monkeys wouldn't use more if they were allowed to have access...
 
General alcazar said:
What irritates my monkeys about MDPV is that it is as empty as cocaine is as far as the high is conerned.
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Lots of people say cocaine is an 'empty' high... never understood it, frankly. It's always been quite a powerful euphoriant, social lubricant and sexual enhancer for my monkeys. Unless pleasure and enjoyment are perhaps considered 'empty', but that I wouldn't understand either...

I will admit that MDPV is 'emptier' than coke tho, likely due to lack of serotonergic and significant noradrenergic effects. I've really fed it to my monkeys mostly for its pro-sexual effects, which frankly can be downright incredible. And of course it's been very cheap per-dose, which tends to limit negative judgments :p.
I did not say unobtainium, but less available. This stuff would probably be illegal if it was easier to find and cheaper.
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Wouldn't most RC's...
It shares many of the compulsive qualities of cocaine without the benefit of cooking it into crack. My monkeys like it, but then again, My monkeys were once crackheads.
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Ditto mine, and fwiw they now find crack unpleasant. Few seconds of overstimulation, followed by a crash two minutes later... oh, joy (not to mention the very ugly social and financial side effects).
They have also lost many 12-24 hour periods spinning on this stuff and would rather dose a psychedelic at this point. Not that the monkeys wouldn't use more if they were allowed to have access...
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Fair enough on the psychedelics. I've never cared for them (as you know), and if anything I've always tended to find them rather "empty" if anything... causing a sort of temporary psychosis that I find mostly unpleasant and anxiety-provoking. No fun, and certainly no life changing experience.

P.S. I probably have what could be one of the last ~1.5g of MDPV left on the planet (f&b notwithstanding) coming in to my lab shortly... a very cheerful thought :). I don't expect much in the way of new insights or discoveries, but if I run into anything I'll post. I'll agree that MDPV is not something I want to do regularly anymore, and am happy enough with it being against the rules here to ask for sources -- I wouldn't want to know where to get it right now.
 
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