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50 tons of safrol. thats a fuck load of E!!

http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist//RTV/2010/09/14/RTV2329010/?s=mdma&st=0&pn=1

Copious amount of drugs chucked in trash compactor

http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist//RTV/2010/06/26/RTV1650110/?s=mdma&st=0&pn=1

anyone find a PR on the pills they have??yellow something..white crossey-type thing haha

I didnt see any reports on the yellow pills in that video. Would be interesting to see. As he is an olympic athelete I found it quite weird he was selling pills. On this basis I would suspect bunk just in it purely for greed reasons.
 
what does that have to do with selling pills tho?

The point I am making is if you are an olympic athelite you represant your country. You have to set a good example in the interest of sport.

If someone who is an athelite chooses to sell illicit drugs I think their morals have to be massively questioned as being an olympic athelite and selling drugs leaves me with a rather sour taste. I just wouldnt associate olympians with drugs.

Why has his olympic status been flagged in the documentary? I suspect others feel the same way.

I just some how cant picture him giving 2 monkeys about whats in the pills.

Clearly this is just an opinion. A pill report would be useful to back this theory up of course. Or prove it wrong.
 
I get where you're coming from - most would feel that way, although i'd expect them to be fewer/further between at a place like bluelight.
fwiw, i don't think he's setting a bad example, or being immoral, so long as he's conducting business properly. I definitely know that that is not a "popular" opinion.
(lemme ask you - if the pills are pure, and business is conducted fairly, why do you think this is immoral? Do you feel guilty when you consume pills, or feel like your dealer is doing something "wrong" by providing them?)
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(lemme ask you - if the pills are pure, and business is conducted fairly, why do you think this is immoral? Do you feel guilty when you consume pills, or feel like your dealer is doing something "wrong" by providing them?)

I think anyone who represents sport on such a high level is morally obliged not to take drugs. Clearly the majority agree with this or why would they be banned if they are detected with drugs in their system?

When you are an olympic medalist young people look to you as a roll model. Choosing then to sell illicit drugs in my opinion is wrong.


Its kind of like do you think people are wrong to go to strip clubs, take drugs and bang prostitutes? Probabaly not.

How would do you feel if a school teacher of young kids or a politician was banging strippers, prostitutes and railing coke over the weekend.

if you take on certain roles you take on certain responsibilities thats my point.

If you stick two fingers up to these responsibilities like this olympic medal dude then his moral standards shoule be questioned.

If his morals are questionable it would not surprise me if bunk pills were an addition to his attitude.
 
I think anyone who represents sport on such a high level is morally obliged not to take drugs. Clearly the majority agree with this or why would they be banned if they are detected with drugs in their system?

Well, they're banned because they can enhance someone's performance... but I don't see why that would be immoral, especially if he's getting good pills.

He's a human, just like anyone else. It's his right to do what he want's with his life, and who are we to say he can't compete for his country one week out of the year, and spend the rest partying? I don't see any reason why an Olympic athlete should be held to any higher standards than anyone else... they're not meant to represent their country as a whole, only to compete for it.


Fuck, they should be help to LESS stringent rules, considering everything they've given up just to compete in a sport that probably doesn't matter.. I know I'd be dropping bombs all damn night after I competed if I was at the London Olympics
 
Well, they're banned because they can enhance someone's performance...

Definition of immoral:

"not conforming to the patterns of conduct usually accepted or established as consistent with principles of personal and social ethics."

By dealing in MDMA as an olympian you are acting in an immoral way.

and who are we to say he can't compete for his country one week out of the year, and spend the rest partying?

The olympic committee say. Check the listings under stimulants.

Athletes who are found to have used such banned substances, either through a positive drugs test or public admission, receive a competition ban for a length of time which reflects the severity of the infraction. Athletes who are found to have banned substances in their possession, or who tamper with (or refuse to submit to) drug testing can also receive bans from the sport. Short competitive bans are also given to athletes who test positive for prohibited recreational drugs or minor stimulants which serve little performance-enhancing effects for competitors in athletics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_drugs_banned_from_the_Olympics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_athletics

If he wants to be an Olympic Athelete he cannot take or deal in MDMA period.

Whilst he is an athelete the dude is acting in a totally immoral way there is no way you can argue this fact.

My point is then if he is this blatant and immoral whats to stop him from producing bunk pills? From a speculative stance not a lot..

Maybe he feels strongly about MDMA and just wants to spread the good vibe. As a result dealing in quality pills however, I some how doubt it.

I don't see any reason why an Olympic athlete should be held to any higher standards than anyone else... they're not meant to represent their country as a whole, only to compete for it.

So you dont think as an olympic athelete you are representing your country? just competing? the whole point of the olympics is to represent your country no one gets paid..
 
By dealing in MDMA as an olympian you are acting in an immoral way.

So is a normal MDMA dealer, who is only supplying pure MDMA out of love for the drug and his community, an immoral person..?


I don't see why he's such a horrible person just because he doesn't follow the bull shit rules set up for us by the Government. If he was caught with ecstasy at the Olympics, that might be one thing... but no, he was at home. You can do whatever you want at home, Olympian or not, it's your choice. He's no different from any other person, except for the fact that he's incredibly in shape

I just don't see why he should have to sacrifice his own life, the only one he has, just because he wants to compete for a few medals? :?



Short competitive bans are also given to athletes who test positive for prohibited recreational drugs or minor stimulants which serve little performance-enhancing effects for competitors in athletics.

So, if they would have found me partying it up at the Olympics, I might be disqualified for the games, but it's not like I'm out of it for life. They probably just do that to make sure your not getting an edge over the rest of them by working out all day on meth, and knocking yourself out at night with heroin for extra sleep.
 
So is a normal MDMA dealer, who is only supplying pure MDMA out of love for the drug and his community, an immoral person..?

Many would argue any MDMA dealer is immoral. An Olympian MDMA dealer I would argue is definitely immoral.

I don't see why he's such a horrible person just because he doesn't follow the bull shit rules set up for us by the Government.

Horrible and immoral are very different.

I dont think the doping rules in the Olympics are Bullshit.

but no, he was at home. You can do whatever you want at home,

Not according to the rules you cant. This would be a ban length determined by the Olympic Committee.

He's no different from any other person, except for the fact that he's incredibly in shape

Certain people in society have moral obligations he chose to break them.

I just don't see why he should have to sacrifice his own life, the only one he has, just because he wants to compete for a few medals?

I guess its because you are in the lime light. You have to work within certain terms and conditions. In his case terms and conditions set by the Olympic Committee.

So, if they would have found me partying it up at the Olympics, I might be disqualified for the games, but it's not like I'm out of it for life.

I see the rule has just changed but until recently you could have got a life ban for this very thing if you had MDMA in your posession.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/30/olympics-britain-doping-usada-idUSL4E8FU2F820120430
 
Many would argue any MDMA dealer is immoral. An Olympian MDMA dealer I would argue is definitely immoral.

Just because someone says an MDMA dealer is immoral doesn't make it so. I mean, who are we to judge him? He's achieved more than any of us have, he's dedicated his life to his sport and made innumerable sacrifices along the way.... why can't he party on his off time?


It just seems a bit hypocritical to me :\ I don't see why Olympic Athletes should be held to any higher moral standard than the rest of us... I mean, you don't hear about people complaining that Russell Brand (chose a British actor for you ;) ) is doing drugs, and I'd say more kids look up to rockstars/actors than to athletes that compete twice a year


and the people who do complain about it are the ones who would complain about it no matter who was doing it



Obviously, there's no 100% right answer though. That's why it's debatable =D
 
Obviously, there's no 100% right answer though. That's why it's debatable

Agreed probably should get back on topic :)

How do you know those dirty labs aren't producing Pipes?

The labs featured in the thread are from Canada and also Aussie. If you are going to risk a lab in either of those countries you wouldnt then produce a pipe you would go for gold.

Primarily the Chinese produce the RCs etc. They are made there as cause they are extremely good chemists and also its legal. Pipes were at one point also legal in Aussie, USA, Europe.

Also when you watch the relevant docos they are reported as MDMA labs.

You rarely find MDMA pills in North America anymore.

Depending on your source of course. A lot of street sources are riddled with piperazine and bunk. This is because the penalties of running an MDMA lab or importing MDMA are very very steep. If you are caught pressing pipes and bunk the penalties are lower as the scheduling of the actual compound is lower. Thus the sentence received will be less.

Unfortunately because a lot of candy kids think they are rolling balz on these bunk pills there is a market for them.
 
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I think anyone who represents sport on such a high level is morally obliged not to take drugs. Clearly the majority agree with this or why would they be banned if they are detected with drugs in their system?

When you are an olympic medalist young people look to you as a roll model. Choosing then to sell illicit drugs in my opinion is wrong.


Its kind of like do you think people are wrong to go to strip clubs, take drugs and bang prostitutes? Probabaly not.

How would do you feel if a school teacher of young kids or a politician was banging strippers, prostitutes and railing coke over the weekend.

if you take on certain roles you take on certain responsibilities thats my point.

If you stick two fingers up to these responsibilities like this olympic medal dude then his moral standards shoule be questioned.

If his morals are questionable it would not surprise me if bunk pills were an addition to his attitude.
These "responsibilities"? lol dude, you clearly don't believe drugs (or prostitution) can be done in an ethical manner. The thing is that they absolutely can be - as with many things in life, there are appropriate times and places. If you don't believe that to be true, how can you use?(i'm presuming you do or have)
(and forget the whole "role model to kids" line, unless you can show me a thing he did to promote drugs to children)

Definition of immoral:

"not conforming to the patterns of conduct usually accepted or established as consistent with principles of personal and social ethics."

By dealing in MDMA as an olympian you are acting in an immoral way.
Sure - if mdma is inherently unethical...(have you tried the stuff??)

So you dont think as an olympic athelete you are representing your country? just competing? the whole point of the olympics is to represent your country no one gets paid..
of course you represent your country - in that which you compete in. wtf does his "social life", for lack of a better term, have to do with his athletics? and what's up with this idea of a different set of expectations for how he behaves in private, compared to any other adults?
 
lol dude, you clearly don't believe drugs (or prostitution) can be done in an ethical manner.

unless you can show me a thing he did to promote drugs to children

Sure - if mdma is inherently unethical...(have you tried the stuff??)

wtf does his "social life", for lack of a better term, have to do with his athletics?

and what's up with this idea of a different set of expectations for how he behaves in private, compared to any other adults?

I have made it clear how I feel on this issue.

A lot of what you are saying about what I think is not correct. There is a lot of what you are saying I disagree with however..

It is an opinion based topic so as a result the debate could go on forever. Please can we move back on topic.



Still doesnt look anywhere near as amature as some of those filthy meth labs u see

This is an interesting point.

I think a lot of the meth labs you see before photograph or video by the police are often dismantled and broken up.

In many of the shots and videos I have seen the police tend to smash things up and do a lot of destruction.

I think they dont video or picture complete meth labs in many cases because you can learn techniques and ideas from them.

I think they like to film the mess and destruction to make the labs look more hap hazard and dangerous than they actually are in many cases.

The Aussie MDMA superlab on the main page is one of the biggest and best run labs the Aussie LE have ever seen. The Canadian Lab pictured is a more messy approach.

The interesting thing is both labs are relatively large scale. Although the canadian lab is a pig sty it has similiar scale features.

The canadian lab utilises more home made or OTC (over the counter) techniques. The Aussie lab goes for gold and has the top industrial equipment that money can buy.

The other point is the Canadian Lab has more industrial capable tableting than the Aussie Lab. The tablet presses in the Aussie lab are the cheap ones.

A lot of the prosecution of the Aussie MDMA Lab owner was based on statements and witnesses of the factory workers from the Industrial Equipment Factory where he made the purchase.

It would seem the Canada Lab left fewer tracks although interesting to see both got caught.

I suspect type of employees also play a large part in the jigsaw.

The Aussie lab getting a call to the fire brigade seemed like a set up to me.

I guess we will never know for sure.


Sorry this response is a bit late. I have been away for a while :)
 
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^^ This lab above looks the most big time I could find. And it looks very big if the figures are to go by.

Look at the size of the reaction vessel!

its like something you would see in a pharma company.

400 Litres of MDMA freebase (almost half a ton of pure MDMA!)

6.5kG of MDMA

400 Litres of freebase as we all know is 84% when it bonds to the HCL. Approx 476 kilos of MDMA (very approx).

Total stash on site - 482.5kG MDMA - 482, 500, 000 tablets.

Over 482 million tablets that is fucking MENTAL!!

I never realised the Aussies got that fucked up LOL

I am amazed someone would attempt such a sizable operation.

Operating on this scale doesnt make sense to me unless you were in a complete corrupt country and everyone was paid off.

I can imagine some of Eastern Europe housing this type of operation.


I would say this is AN MDMA SUPERLAB. I have never seen in the news anything operating on this scale before.



Really now? I would have never guessed :D :D


Sorry, that math is off.

Assuming that there is 100Mg of MDMA per pill, that would mean 1 kilo of MDMA would suit 10k pills. 482.5 kilos x 10k = 4,825,000
 
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