LSD Purity and Effects

[AutoTripper]

One just needs to watch psychedsubstance and sees all his trip reports here and why people had bad trips with him for first timers (taking 350 ug local blotters here is ruthless)

Haha, yeah I saw his story of "Mike" who freaked, twizzled and knocked himself out, and they all thought he was dead, called ambulance- hospital drama ensued but thankfully the dude was perfectly alright in the end actually very well and happy I recall.

Well just briefly, I took my first ever microdose yesterday, and it was a surprisingly profound experience. Only 10ug, I felt it blatantly. I would class it as an actual hallucinogenic experience combined with my regular cannabis intake but the effect was very nice for before I consumed any cannabis, a sizeable edible dose and a moderate vape.

It did enhance my anxiety which was already maxed up beforehand yesterday. It's a very physical thing, literally like the weather, based on my inner physiology and certain injuries & conditions and complications.

But I'm also sure that the exacerbation of anxiety will be necessary part of transformation and healing. I have had a significant afterglow today, with a really renewed and refreshed perspective and Outlook on all things.

Im feeling much better adjusted today and have have done significantly better at managing my anxiety and seeing past problems and concerns.

It really surprised me how significant and profound the all round effect of only 10ug has been, both the experience itself and the introspection and afterglow.

My last dose on the 4th of August was 200ug and was handled very well. 10 ug was more like an underdose, I will do 5ug next time. I dont like underdoses. 100ug is almost easier than 10ug, but I like a bit more than 100 still if Im up to it.

It was a very interesting experience though and already feels highly beneficial.

 

[DrumTripper]

@AutoTripper I assume you’re dosing volumetrically?
I have found the same. I do 12.5 mcg for my micros, and I can feel it. It’s more edgy than half a tab, for sure.

There’s no denying it when you feel it, but submersion isn’t easy at underdose levels, so it just sits there, kinda poking at me.
But I’ve learned to love it, knowing it only can go so far at that level.

5 will prolly be a butter zone, smooth and effective, less anxious. Might even just notice the lasting afterglow/perspective shifts, and get no body garbage.
Those of us with any physical conditions seem to be more sensitive to body loads. I know it never bothered me, for the most part, until my 40s - and that’s when the body does start to change.

Good for you for MD’ing, which compound was it?

 

[heatlessbbq]

Half a tab? ^

 

[AutoTripper]

@AutoTripper I assume you’re dosing volumetrically?
I have found the same. I do 12.5 mcg for my micros, and I can feel it. It’s more edgy than half a tab, for sure.

There’s no denying it when you feel it, but submersion isn’t easy at underdose levels, so it just sits there, kinda poking at me.
But I’ve learned to love it, knowing it only can go so far at that level.

5 will prolly be a butter zone, smooth and effective, less anxious. Might even just notice the lasting afterglow/perspective shifts, and get no body garbage.
Those of us with any physical conditions seem to be more sensitive to body loads. I know it never bothered me, for the most part, until my 40s - and that’s when the body does start to change.

Good for you for MD’ing, which compound was it?

Thanks for your thoughts. I have already picked up a lot of insight from your own reports of MD'ing.

It was 100ug of 1plsd, in 10 ml of distilled water for 48 hours I took 1ml.

One thing to note this dose was very effective and it was only 2 days in the watwr, cut into 2 parts. So I'm personally very satisfied about the saturation level of the the compound into the liquid from the tab. It works more than well enough in that space of time. I sure won't be fretting about anything left behind in the blotter.

Also if I wanted to test the acid to see if it was bunk or not this dose would have been more than enough to tell me it was fully potent.
And to be completely honest the main reason I have held off on a micro dosing is because I was apprehensive about still experiencing physical side effects as I be with microdosing most of all the exacerbation of my chronic mucus production and respiratory issues which when I looked into it seems to be a general effect of LSD and the homologues on lots of people.

I'm almost sure I did experience and exacerbation of mucus production and an increased difficulty in breathing but it may have been partly psychosomatic or healing. By the end of the day I really was not feeling too bothered by it though and the benefit I feel I have acquired from the experience as greatly outweighed any physical negatives or experienced yesterday.

Still, 5ug next time. Will be at least 4 days apart. I'm sure I will be very flexible with it and not see it was something which needs to be done in any particular way, order or frequency.

 

[DrumTripper]

mucus production and respiratory issues

@AutoTripper, I get this tiny throat dryness, then a bit of stuffiness, then after the day’s over it goes away. But I don’t have chronic respiration stuff going on, so I always attributed it to acid body effects.

Weirdly, at least a couple times in my life, it has rid me of a cold, or so I convinced myself!

Not necessary, and possibly even reactive to anyone hypersensitive, but I do take ionic Magnesium w/ trace elements during trips and MD’ing sequences.
I find that magnesium and some C, keeps the body effects down a notable amount for me, but that could just be placebo.

Anyway, hope 5 is the dialled in dose and you get positives without negatives.

@heatlessbbq

Half a tab? ^

sorry, just slang for a single blotter paper dose. We meant that underdoses are sometimes harder bodywise than full doses (for me that is 50ug, or half a tab).

 

[DrumTripper]

It was 10ug of 1plsd, in 10 ml of distilled water for 48 hours I took 1ml.

Wait, did you mean 100ug (one full tab) into 10ml H2O? That would give 10ug per ml.
10ug into 10ml would 1ug per ml.
I’m guessing it’s a typo, but there are some reports of folks feeling something at 1-2 ug (someone;s mom on here, IIRC).

 

[AutoTripper]

Wait, did you mean 100ug (one full tab) into 10ml H2O? That would give 10ug per ml.
10ug into 10ml would 1ug per ml.
I’m guessing it’s a typo, but there are some reports of folks feeling something at 1-2 ug (someone;s mom on here, IIRC).

Yeah sorry, 100ug in 10ml, I will edit that now to make it clearer. Not a typo, justnot clearly put loose sentence.

so I always attributed it to acid body effects.

There is also that link made to the, what do they call them now? Serotonin receptors 5HT or something along those lines in the lungs as well as the intestines with the suggestion that microdosing psychedelics can have anti-inflammatory effects on the lungs.

So there may be a medicinal, immune modulating action which may be more prevalent at microdosing levels.

I cant take any magnesium supplements. Im deficient in everything practically, heavily restricted diet, nowhere near enough food, severely underweight and unable to take any supplements or remedies except a rare few.

I do take lots of vitamin C which I can fall out and I'm almost certain it does something to potentiate my trips and reset my tolerance faster.

 

[AutoTripper]

some reports of folks feeling something at 1-2 ug (someone;s mom on here, IIRC

I missed that before but that must have been me my mum microdosed at 7.5 ug and had an overwhelming experience and then also experienced noticeable effects at 1ug.

 

[draculic acid69]

When i tried some 150 ug acid from a random old hippie who claimed him and his friends managed to pull a small synth off it was very dirty but still LSD heavy body load very confused but also kind of loving and warm and quite trippy. They had obv not done any form of purification.

My last batch of acid i tripped on it wasen't the highest quality but very fucking potent hits was a bit too much some stomach load and mental edginess during the come up at a hour and 30 min mark i could no longer make out the room really it was just heavy melting and fractal visuals of multicoloured every object morphing into another one tripped on it 5 times was also ultra cheap for the area. Got a new batch to test out dosed potent back to to very high purity from a pro sadly its always made in small batches artwork is def unique to the local area. NZ LSD chemists are on their own level with the amount of dosage they put into their tabs. One just needs to watch psychedsubstance and sees all his trip reports here and why people had bad trips with him for first timers (taking 350 ug local blotters here is ruthless)

The best blotter i try always dissolves in the mouth fully within 10 minutes very nice paper no stuck around there like thick blotter lesser lsd is put on.

To go through the synthesis and then leave out something like purification is just ridiculous,it wouldn't happen.maybe they will leave out isomerizing it but not purification.any difference between batches and body load clarity etc etc would be due to that.different synthesis yeild different amounts of iso-lsd some leave a lot some don't.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

To go through the synthesis and then leave out something like purification is just ridiculous,it wouldn't happen.maybe they will leave out isomerizing it but not purification.any difference between batches and body load clarity etc etc would be due to that.different synthesis yeild different amounts of iso-lsd some leave a lot some don't.

i doubt they knew how to do chromographty colounms these were literally a bunch of bogans who grew their own ergot and somehow got all the required things so they jsut ran it and laid the crystal without doing any chromography to separate side products and isomers out.

 

[heatlessbbq]

Isn't that called 'washing', TripSitterNZ?

 

[draculic acid69]

i doubt they knew how to do chromographty colounms these were literally a bunch of bogans who grew their own ergot and somehow got all the required things so they jsut ran it and laid the crystal without doing any chromography to separate side products and isomers out.

To get everything required,set up a lab with the right lighting and precautions to isolate and not damage ergot alkaloids,to understand the processes and precautions needed for success and then to leave silica gel methanol and a glass tube off the list is just ridiculous.synthing LSD from scratch
is a lot more complicated than column chromatography.

 

[draculic acid69]

Not to mention that purifying ergot alkaloids would probably involve chromatography.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

To get everything required,set up a lab with the right lighting and precautions to isolate and not damage ergot alkaloids,to understand the processes and precautions needed for success and then to leave silica gel methanol and a glass tube off the list is just ridiculous.synthing LSD from scratch
is a lot more complicated than column chromatography.

LSD synths are not that difficult not everybody will purfiy their starting material if its some bath tub lab setup. Special lighting is not required at all if all the glassware is wrapped in foil to block out light. A balloon with nitrogen poked through a stopper is all you need for a atmosphere. Making crude LSD is easy and literally involves just following step by step like making cookies most people could do it. What most people can no do is run chromatography colonums the amount of solvent required and attention to detail is beyond the scope of backyard op. Not to mention at the prices in this local country these type of people would be losing out on another easy 100k + for a purfication step.

 

[draculic acid69]

LSD synths are not that difficult not everybody will purfiy their starting material if its some bath tub lab setup. Special lighting is not required at all if all the glassware is wrapped in foil to block out light. A balloon with nitrogen poked through a stopper is all you need for a atmosphere. Making crude LSD is easy and literally involves just following step by step like making cookies most people could do it. What most people can no do is run chromatography colonums the amount of solvent required and attention to detail is beyond the scope of backyard op. Not to mention at the prices in this local country these type of people would be losing out on another easy 100k + for a purfication step.

This isn't meth made from boxes and matchbooks.there are no bathtub labs that make LSD.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

This isn't meth made from boxes and matchbooks.there are no bathtub labs that make LSD.

yes there are. Its a myth that lsd is hard to make. Ultra pure lsd is hard but half the shit that is laid is done to a poor standard and even more dirty stuff is done with homemade diethylamine. Basic glassware with ghetto kitchen chemist techniques can make any drug to a crude standard.

 

[draculic acid69]

yes there are. Its a myth that lsd is hard to make. Ultra pure lsd is hard but half the shit that is laid is done to a poor standard and even more dirty stuff is done with homemade diethylamine. Basic glassware with ghetto kitchen chemist techniques can make any drug to a crude standard.

I think your speculating a lot in this post.

 

[t_wrex]

yes there are. Its a myth that lsd is hard to make. Ultra pure lsd is hard but half the shit that is laid is done to a poor standard and even more dirty stuff is done with homemade diethylamine. Basic glassware with ghetto kitchen chemist techniques can make any drug to a crude standard.

You know, I think I recall reading somewhere that Australia & New Zealand have had a growing number of ergot poisonings in recent years, mainly in farm animals. To the point where there have been news articles published warning farmers about it.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

I think your speculating a lot in this post.

No i have had to synthesize way more complex multistep compounds than lsd during undergrad using nitrogen atmosphere and no light. LSD would be easy for anybody with 3 years of undergrad organic if they aint a mindless monkey. The only thing holding back LSD production is the amount of ergot akaloids people can get in bulk. Any gang here can easily setup a one time lsd op and pump out a 10-30k tabs to meet the local demand for a area and make a killing here. Hells angels use to be heavily involved in LSD production and smuggling in more rural parts of the world.

 

[draculic acid69]

No i have had to synthesize way more complex multistep compounds than lsd during undergrad using nitrogen atmosphere and no light. LSD would be easy for anybody with 3 years of undergrad organic if they aint a mindless monkey. The only thing holding back LSD production is the amount of ergot akaloids people can get in bulk. Any gang here can easily setup a one time lsd op and pump out a 10-30k tabs to meet the local demand for a area and make a killing here. Hells angels use to be heavily involved in LSD production and smuggling in more rural parts of the world.

3posts above u say it's as easy as baking cookies.now your saying that 3yrs of university education is about the skill level needed.as for ergot unavailability being the only thing holding ppl back I'd say it's more likely that ergot unavailability is the only thing holding dedicated skilled clandestine chemists with the desire to make this specific drug back from making more than they already do.