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LSD Discussion Thread (Australian Centric) Mach III

>>> thread merged with LSD Discussion thread

most of the serious trippers i know take psychedelics for the introspective and insightful thoughts that emerge as your ego dissolves...as well as for kicks or whatever.
for a whole lot of reasons i wouldn't really advise people take acid at theme parks; listen to bill hicks' "rant in e-minor" for his take on such shenanigans.
i only really mention it for the sake of harm reduction - you could easily lose track of what is "safe" and what isn't with a head full of acid.
 
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pisspotnrock said:
sorry this post isnt really in response to the whole point of the tread but are you referring to the 'brains' currently circulating perth? because theyre not LSD.. (presumably LSA according to some people I met at a doof)

EDIT: anyway, post trip of LSD, I always have this amazing afterglow which makes me see the world in a slightly different (but positive) perspective.. I fuckn love it
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Man like I said I've never seen these trips before but I'm telling you these were a clean and strong dose of acid as there was no body load whatsoever (I've done LSA before from HWB seeds and the bodyload was disgustingly present the entire time) lastly a dose of LSA would be too big to fit on a blotter.... according to Erowid and quoting Albert Hoffman a dose of LSA is "2 to 5 milligrams orally" http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsa/lsa_dose.shtml
Sorry I don't mean to cause any arguments but I know what I consumed; lastly I hope this thread does stimulate some discussion as I am really curious to see what people have to say and how they feel post trips (personal experiences/opinions rather than general "positive afterglows") because IMO someone who loves feeling scattered could consider that an afterglow, and someone who feels an afterglow could find the feeling distracting and maybe even unpleasant as I've heard of both instances, my question was more about how it affects your personal behavior/mental process etc, post trip.

And I apologize if this thread wasn't worth starting, anyhow let's hope people share their opinions :)
 
Standup said:
got a brain tab off a friend. cartoon brain on each square. the best thing ive ever had. just when i was giving up on finding anything atm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86KKoUAAhRg tripping to this song
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this is exactly what I was talking about on a new thread I started a few hours ago, I am gona bet my money that we got the same ones, are they a pink cartoon brain on a blue background, standard perforated blotter? I seriously tripped retarded ballsack off just 1.5, sorry I know this thread isn't about whats circulating but I am in disbelief of how strong they are as well
 
There's more to pshychedelics than LSD and LSA, not that I know much about them. I think ppnr was referring to research chems mate.

I've only had acid a few times, never at high enough doses to really trip though. The effects I got were like a mild stimulant-like, but more though provoking high. I did have some "epiphanies", however they didn't last long - or I ended up drinking too much and forgetting them.
 
Not sure if this thread has too much relevance to ADD but anywho, I find that out of all the psychedelics I have tried (Id like to call myself a true psychonaut, well used to be anyway) shrooms and DMT specifically have given extremely positive post emotions. They are very very very spiritual. The way shrooms make u think its 1000 times more powerful than any psych incl acid, they are very "mental" people who use psychs would understand this phrase whereas acid is all about the visuals with not so much mental.

Shrooms give me extremely deep thoughts and has taught me so many things its just incredible. From every psychedelic trip u should learn something new whether itd be good or bad (preferably good though). Its amazing how the brain, ego and psychedelics all work together. We have yet to comprehend or understand the vast world of psychedelics and there actions on the human mind. Beautiful substances none the less and prob my all time favorite weighin the pros and cons.
 
opi8 said:
There's more to pshychedelics than LSD and LSA, not that I know much about them. I think ppnr was referring to research chems mate.
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thanks for clearing that up, I should have been more specific...

I was in no way saying they were LSA, but that was what I was told by a bunch of people at a doof who had consumed them that night...

what I'm trying to say is, referring to all the people I spoke to at the doof (and a couple of BLers that have posted in the LSD thread [gullzy for eg.]), they are not LSD...

and the fact everyone I spoke to said they had a very bitter taste, kinda says it all but hey, I could be wrong here..

can someone confirm this?

should also mention that I havnt consumed these tabs personally, but am only goin off what I have heard through word of mouth
 
the brains i had did not have any bitter taste what so ever, and yeah was pink on a purple bluish background. Everyone I know who's had them has rated them. I couldnt imagine them being anything other than LSD, and if they werent, gimme more of whatever it was. Never had such an intense feeling of connection to everything around me. Was just this nonstop energy coming from the sky and trees and my mind my racing insanely fast with different thoughts. Was watching pine trees distort into castles and fires and stuff.
 
^ sometimes even ink!
i've had a couple of horrid tasting blotters that were most certainly LSD (or close enough - rumoured lysergamide analogues doing the rounds can never be discounted, it seems). but it was good board...just shitty ink.

speaking of ink - i used to always swallow my tabs once i got bored of a little bit of blotter in my mouth, or once i started to feel the effects; after 30-40 min of sublingual administration (to be on the safe side - i've never done any experiments with time in mouth / relative absorption) - i spit the tab out.

i used to sometimes get nasty stomach pains later in the trip, and after some investigation into the health effects of ingesting certain inks and toners - roughly the same as the side-effects i was experiencing (bloating, cramps, etc).
there might not be any causative effect; this could be a result of poorly stored, degraded or impure LSD - but either way, i always spit my tas out now, and i can't think of a sitaution since making this change where i've had pains in the belly.

i've never had the...pleasure (?) of consuming DOx tabs, but i believe it is a much stronger tasting chemical than any non-actives found on a tab of LSD. i imagine someone from adelaide might know more about this though. jake? ;)

perhaps in these days of nbome blotter and its poor oral bioavailabilty, it is worth teliing people (who may be less well informed) that swallowing the tab straight away might be good HR.
with kids dying from taking *ahem* "acid" - it is important that we look out for our friends, acquaintances and drug-buddies., because the margin of error with the 25xNBOMe range is frighteningly slim.
i think - like pills - it is time to start reagent testing your tabs of acid....as much as it pains me to say it.
i wouldn't trust any NBOMe preparation that i did not prepare - or at least supervise being prepared - myself.
to use a bluelight example, this thread was written by a guy who miscalculated his dose of 25I, had a seizure, in which broke both his arms. if you're buying it off a random person, or a dealer/vendor that is not so bright, you're really putting your life in their hands.
if you take blotter acid - even occasionally - an Ehrlich reagent would be a very sound investment IMO.
 
Depends on which DOx you're consuming as to whether it is a pleasure or not (And how much you really like tripping). DOx is very chemically bitter but I've had LSD tabs just as bitter too. Hoffman bikes for instance.

I would assume most of the NBOMe's being sold as LSD would be fuck, I forget what it's called but they add it to make it BA sublinguil and orally is still going to have some effect.
 
Jakeperson said:
I would assume most of the NBOMe's being sold as LSD would be fuck, I forget what it's called but they add it to make it BA sublinguil and orally is still going to have some effect.
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complexed, to make it water soluble?
true, but my understanding is that oral BA is still really low, and complexed or not, they would require a very large dose to be active.
in one of the 'big and dandy' 25i threads in PD i read a report of somebody inadvertently - very recklessly - ingesting enough 25i to kill them many times over, but because they mistook it for another substance and swallowed it in a capsule, it was not readily absorbed (as it is in the membranes of the mouth and sinus) so they were very fortunate. i would dig through the thread to clarify the details, but i need to go to bed.

either way, the drug market is totally unregulated so it is a case of buyer beware. trusting the black market with your life is not really something your average LSD enthusiast should have to contend with, but the potential for dangerous overdose with the NBOMe chems floating around is worth being cautious with. a lot of older acid heads i know would never even heard of the stuff...
it's just a damn shame considering how LSD itself is a pretty safe chemical to ingest, with (to my knowledge) no known fatalities.
 
with (to my knowledge) no known fatalities.
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That seems to be correct from erowid.

Put simply, LSD does not cause death at recreational or therapeutic doses (less than 500 ug / 0.5 mg). While there are substantial reasons why users should be cautious about LSD use (see LSD Health), death is not a major risk.

Less than a handful of human deaths have been tied in the medical literature to the pharmacological effects of LSD, and none of these deaths have been unquestionably attributable to LSD's actions. The clearest case was documented by Fysh et al. in 1985; however, they fail to explain the circumstances of the death, only discussing the toxicological assessment, casting some doubt that the only explanation for the death was LSD.

Estimates of lethal doses of LSD are higher than 10 mg (10,000 ug) administered orally, more than 100 times a normal moderate dose of LSD (100 ug). The administration of this amount would require the ingestion of more than 200 units of street blotter, which typically contain about 50 ug of LSD (as of late 2010). LSD has been used by tens of millions of people over the last 50 years and has been administered to tens of thousands of patients in psychotherapeutic settings (mostly prior to 1960).

Some suicides have been tied to the use of LSD, though it is difficult to positively link an individual's choice to take their own life with their past use of LSD. In general, LSD is not reported to substantially increase the risk of suicide and those who do commit suicide after taking LSD are likely to have suffered from pre-existing suicidal tendencies.

Some deaths have been associated with inebriated or combative behavior while under the influence of LSD, including falling or jumping from a height or dying after being beaten by police.

Because the numbers of fatalities associated with LSD are so low, it is difficult to determine the risk of death associated with LSD. Erowid estimates that the risk of death from taking LSD is probably less than one death per million LSD use sessions, with risk of death higher among those predisposed to suicide and among those without a sober sitter present to help avoid accidents or fights.

PHARMACOLOGICAL FATALITIES #

Pharmacological fatalities are those deaths caused by the direct action of LSD in the body, not including deaths caused by accidents or as a result of inebriated behavior. Generally, LSD is considered to have a very low risk of death. As Haddad and Winchester stated in 1990, "No well-documented human deaths resulting directly from the toxic effects of LSD itself have occurred, though LSD has been implicated in accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides."1 And in Psychedelics Encyclopedia, Peter Stafford summarizes:

For those concerned about immediate medical hazards in ingesting LSD [...] Abram Hoffer has estimated, on the basis of animal studies, that the half-lethal human dose--meaning half would die (a standard measure for drugs)--would be about 14,000 [ug]. But one person who took 40 mg. (40,000 [ug]) survived. In the only case of death reportedly caused by overdose ([Griggs and Ward, 1977]), the quantity of LSD in the blood indicated that 320 mg. (320,000 [ug]) had been injected intravenously.2

Possible Pharmacological Fatalities

Though LSD can result in increased body temperature and vasoconstriction at high doses, there are less than a handful of documented deaths or near-fatal medical cases relating to the pharmacological action of LSD in humans. None of these include enough documentation to prove unquestionably that LSD has, by itself, resulted in a person's death. Below are the best documented possible pharmacological fatalities that we have been able to find attributed to LSD.
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http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_death.shtml
 
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lil angel15 said:
Sustanon - giving quality HR advice since 2008. :\
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Everything was so peaceful until u returned :\

Im very familiar with this print and 2 is definitely needed as with most LSD tabs these days. Once again useful post :\ prob better off just keeping quite imo.
 
Sustanon said:
Everything was so peaceful until u returned :\

Im very familiar with this print and 2 is definitely needed as with most LSD tabs these days. Once again useful post :\ prob better off just keeping quite imo.
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To paint a little thing like that you smeared
Carelessly passing with your robes afloat,—
Yet do much less, so much less, Someone says,
(I know his name, no matter)—so much less!
Well, less is more, Lucrezia: I am judged.

Robert Browning

I anticipate an attempt at a witty reply due to a lack of understanding on your part... Huh???

;)
 
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