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psy997 said:
I'm personally wanting to use empathogens for therapeutic purposes now. Psychedelics have always naturally pushed me towards self-therapy and discovery, I never really had trips that weren't about learning about myself. But MDMA has always been social for me. I want to try it now for healing.
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(y) 🙏 Massively! MDMA has such a positive healing potential for all sorts of trauma, depression, anxiety etc combined with psychotherapy, hypnotherapy etc. I'm on a new path of self discovery and healing with MDMA despite being aware of the pitfalls (dependencies). Treat MDMA with respect and discipline if one wants to truly heal.
 
psy997 said:
I'm personally wanting to use empathogens for therapeutic purposes now. Psychedelics have always naturally pushed me towards self-therapy and discovery, I never really had trips that weren't about learning about myself. But MDMA has always been social for me. I want to try it now for healing.
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My preferred use is just that. Now i do use with a one or two close friends but it's at home not at a show or something. Extremely healing experience. Best of luck in your journey my friend
 
I tried 5-MAPB last night at 50mg with a friend of mine. It was not at all what either of us were expecting from what I've read, and then told him. Rolling but not really. A little psychedelic, but not really. Etc.

The tactile and bodily sensations from T+00:45-2:00 after dosing were pretty fucking strong, but I wouldn't say i was ever really floored by euphoria or empathy.

Couldn't fall asleep until 11hrs after dosing, and that was with large amounts of alcohol.

Part of me wonders if it's actually 5-APB like some vendors have sold as 5-MAPB, if it's just not what I expected, or if I needed to have the kind of experience that's not just exploding with euphoria and empathy.

Not sure what to think. At one point we said it's like a halfway drug, halfway to a bunch of things, but none of them. And anything we could have expected, it was not like that.
 
psy997 said:
I tried 5-MAPB last night at 50mg with a friend of mine. It was not at all what either of us were expecting from what I've read, and then told him. Rolling but not really. A little psychedelic, but not really. Etc.

The tactile and bodily sensations from T+00:45-2:00 after dosing were pretty fucking strong, but I wouldn't say i was ever really floored by euphoria or empathy.

Couldn't fall asleep until 11hrs after dosing, and that was with large amounts of alcohol.

Part of me wonders if it's actually 5-APB like some vendors have sold as 5-MAPB, if it's just not what I expected, or if I needed to have the kind of experience that's not just exploding with euphoria and empathy.

Not sure what to think. At one point we said it's like a halfway drug, halfway to a bunch of things, but none of them. And anything we could have expected, it was not like that.
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Idk much about 5 MAPB, was the "halfwayness" maybe a function of dose? Like not taking enough MDMA and sort of blue balling yourself? Again idk much about it just speculating..
 
thegreenhand said:
Idk much about 5 MAPB, was the "halfwayness" maybe a function of dose? Like not taking enough MDMA and sort of blue balling yourself?
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5-MAPB doesn't have that same dosage curve as MDMA. It is effective at as little as 10-20 mg and you don't feel like you've 'missed the threshold".

psy997 said:
Not sure what to think. At one point we said it's like a halfway drug, halfway to a bunch of things, but none of them.
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I can relate somewhat to what you have stated.
I am finding so far, that the best use of 5-MAPB for me, is by doing a low dose (20 mg) followed by a low dose of MDMA after it kicks in.
Others have found that the "borax combo" (combining 5-MAPB with a low dose of a stim and a low dose of a psych) works nicely for them.
 
psy997 said:
I tried 5-MAPB last night at 50mg with a friend of mine. It was not at all what either of us were expecting from what I've read, and then told him. Rolling but not really. A little psychedelic, but not really. Etc.

The tactile and bodily sensations from T+00:45-2:00 after dosing were pretty fucking strong, but I wouldn't say i was ever really floored by euphoria or empathy.

Couldn't fall asleep until 11hrs after dosing, and that was with large amounts of alcohol.

Part of me wonders if it's actually 5-APB like some vendors have sold as 5-MAPB, if it's just not what I expected, or if I needed to have the kind of experience that's not just exploding with euphoria and empathy.

Not sure what to think. At one point we said it's like a halfway drug, halfway to a bunch of things, but none of them. And anything we could have expected, it was not like that.
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Hmm I wonder if 5-APB too... 50mg is a decent dose but 11hrs not being able to sleep doesn’t sound like 5-MAPB to me. It lasts a long time but if your tired enough I’ve fallen asleep gurning my ass off on it.

Unfortunately with how good 5-MAPB really is there’s lots of garbage out there too. A batch I got, even when purified to the best of my ability, isn’t as good as another which came pure as snow.

I’ve heard many folks who’ve lost the magic claim good 5-MAPB brought it back.

-Gc
 
G_Chem said:
Hmm I wonder if 5-APB too... 50mg is a decent dose but 11hrs not being able to sleep doesn’t sound like 5-MAPB to me. It lasts a long time but if your tired enough I’ve fallen asleep gurning my ass off on it.

Unfortunately with how good 5-MAPB really is there’s lots of garbage out there too. A batch I got, even when purified to the best of my ability, isn’t as good as another which came pure as snow.

I’ve heard many folks who’ve lost the magic claim good 5-MAPB brought it back.

-Gc
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Thanks for the reply G.

I just looked up the duration of 5-APB and it doesn't seem to be too different, given, more stimulation would be present in the comedown I guess. I'm not sold it's 5-APB though, considering it was pretty non-stimulated compared to 6-APB and MDMA. I have been thinking about testing it, though.

This stuff should be pure considering where I got it from.

I'm hoping to try it with a bit of 6-APB and maybe LSD here in a few weeks, so we'll see what happens then, I guess.
 
Have an unknown amount of 5-MAPB in me right now. Gonna give it another 30 min until I think of one more redose. Doing great TGIF
 
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