Losing The Magic....help

[niro]

Don't worry dude it's not gone for good ...... it's still there just take a couple months off, it's hard but i've been there! Just keep yourself busy and distracted in some way so that you don't think about "E"

 

[Doooofus]

Oh, I never meant to say that it wasn't still fun. You will still be able to roll hard and have a blast. However, that wide-eyed childlike amazement that you initially got when you FIRST started taking it goes away.

Does anyone else think that this is just due to the novelty wearing off? The same thing happens with a lot of things... alcohol for example. Remember how exhilarating it was the first few (hundred) times you got drunk? Or smoking weed... that used to be amazing - now you just sit on the couch and eat corn chips. Or think of it like a rollercoaster - you go on it enough times, you will know every twist and turn... it will still be fun but there's not that novelty factor there.

I think that if there is a long enough break between doses that novelty can last much longer. I'm talking like using MDMA 3-4 times a year. Much better for your brain too

 

[Zagenth]

Does anyone else think that this is just due to the novelty wearing off? The same thing happens with a lot of things... alcohol for example. Remember how exhilarating it was the first few (hundred) times you got drunk? Or smoking weed... that used to be amazing - now you just sit on the couch and eat corn chips. Or think of it like a rollercoaster - you go on it enough times, you will know every twist and turn... it will still be fun but there's not that novelty factor there.

I think that if there is a long enough break between doses that novelty can last much longer. I'm talking like using MDMA 3-4 times a year. Much better for your brain too

Oh, I agree, you can extend the childlike amazement for awhile. But........BUT.....it eventually ends, I don't care how long you space the doses, or if you dose once or twice a year, after awhile, the initial happiness wears off. There's no avoiding that. Ever hear addicts talk about their use? (Always chasing the first high, and NEVER acheiving it, it is NOT possible). You will never have that initial high, it is just the nature of the beast, I don't care who you talk to, it is not possible. You will feel awesome and have a blast, but your initial high will never be obtained, understand that now, it will NEVER come back, I don't care WHO you talk to. You could have a blast and have the best times of your life, but trying to catch that INITIAL high, that initial childlike amazement, it will NEVER resurface. No matter how long you wait, no matter what the purity of your pills, even if its pure molly. People might call me an idiot, but I am right, that initial high is gone forever, get used to it.

 

[Wanderer]

^^^ in simple terms. when this happens, you loose the mystery of the roll.

 

[Ismene]

It needs to be said that probably the major factor in "losing the magic" is reading about "losing the magic" on messageboards and then convincing yourself you too are "losing the magic".

Very few things are as good every single time you do them - life just doesn't work like that. Like John Lennon said - even being worshipped by thousands of people and being able to fuck 10 glamour models every night becomes a boring waste of fucking time after you've experienced it a hundred times.

By all means take a break but try and get this "losing the magic" thing in perspective. Remember that the one surefire way of spoiling an MDMA experience is to sit there thinking "it's not as good as it was last time, I'm losing the magic".

 

[wangeye]

"It needs to be said that probably the major factor in "losing the magic" is reading about "losing the magic" on messageboards and then convincing yourself you too are "losing the magic"."
^^
I would have to say that this is the reason I first started thinking I was "losing the magic". Up until I read it on message boards, I didn't even think about it. "Losing the magic", I believe, is all placebo. I guess only time will tell though.

 

[ultimateeuphoria]

"It needs to be said that probably the major factor in "losing the magic" is reading about "losing the magic" on messageboards and then convincing yourself you too are "losing the magic"."
^^
I would have to say that this is the reason I first started thinking I was "losing the magic". Up until I read it on message boards, I didn't even think about it. "Losing the magic", I believe, is all placebo. I guess only time will tell though.

Yea The only thing that seems not to work is the childlike stuff like the amuzement....and the possible hyperness....i still roll but im just there feeling good and not hyper.

 

[Ismene]

"It needs to be said that probably the major factor in "losing the magic" is reading about "losing the magic" on messageboards and then convincing yourself you too are "losing the magic"."
^^
I would have to say that this is the reason I first started thinking I was "losing the magic". Up until I read it on message boards, I didn't even think about it. "Losing the magic", I believe, is all placebo. I guess only time will tell though.

Me too. It's an effect that works with every other drug too. Start saying to yourself "you know, it's not as good as it was the first time" and you'll "lose the magic" with every other drug as well.

 

[Doooofus]

Yea The only thing that seems not to work is the childlike stuff like the amuzement....and the possible hyperness....i still roll but im just there feeling good and not hyper.

Are you and your friends taking the same pills? Its possible that your friend's pills have speed in them as well as MDMA... I know that I'm certainly more upbeat and dancey when I get a speedy pill, compared to a nice clean MDMA pill where I'll chill for a bit, have a bit of a boogey, have a chat, have a drink, smoke a cigarette, have another little dance... With speedy pills its just *DOOF*DOOF**DOOF*DOOF* all night til I come down

 

[ultimateeuphoria]

Are you and your friends taking the same pills? Its possible that your friend's pills have speed in them as well as MDMA... I know that I'm certainly more upbeat and dancey when I get a speedy pill, compared to a nice clean MDMA pill where I'll chill for a bit, have a bit of a boogey, have a chat, have a drink, smoke a cigarette, have another little dance... With speedy pills its just *DOOF*DOOF**DOOF*DOOF* all night til I come down

Yea we always take the same ones....but you are right i think lately ive been have just the small dose mdma pills not speed....lol my first pill was almost straight speed and that was insane lol. Also they're are alot of meth bombs around here so yea. So overall i think I just miss the childlike amusement. hehe

 

[Doooofus]

Have you got a testing kit? If you can afford pills, you can afford a kit And it will stop you having to buy those dirty meth bombs

 

[Jimboach]

I know i know I need to stop. But like his comment below the whole "honey moon" thing is right. But the only reason i say addicted is because everytime im not in the slighest good mood i want it and it seems like everytime I get money...I call the guy up and wham. I also thought about trying to stop and like collect varies ones for a while but Im scared of poppin them.

When I was big into the scene years ago, I was mentally addicted too and I also lost the magic. I would get strong cravings mid-week and I'd see flyers for clubs and emails for raves and stuff.

The trick is a lot of self discipline and something to occupy your time. I had to resort to waking up at 5:30am before work every day and run my ass off which helped me tone up and subdue the urges. I'd be so exhausted by the end of the week, I was cool to just catch some drinks with buds.

Try something like this, keep a healthy regmine and maybe, you can go on a second honey moon a few months later. Now isn't that incentive?

 

[Jimboach]

even if the whole 'loosing the magic' thing is just a placebo, taking a break will do your body a world of good. It sounds like the novelty has worn off but that doesnt mean you wont enjoy it.
take a few months off, the longer the break the better. When i have taken breaks the first few weeks is def the hardest, but after that 2 months doesnt feel much different from 6 months. It is just a psychological addiction, not physical. Taking such a long break might be hard especially since your used to doing it so often, but think of what you have to gain from it, how much better it will be after your break. And after the break try and keep it at max 1ce a month, if not less. Its not just about loosing the magic, but what you could be doing to your body in the long term.
Good luck and let us know how u go!

Plus, don't forget about all that money you'll be saving.

 

[absent minded]

if i see another thread about losing the magic in the next year im going to kill myselfffffffffffffff 8(

 

[popper#1]

if i see another thread about losing the magic in the next year im going to kill myselfffffffffffffff 8(

ROFL gotta love the self induced "Loss of magic" from hearing it sssssooooo fuckin much.. people you don't lose the magic its still there some of you just can't find it i know where to find mine everytime

 

[Nwalmaer]

You do it every weekend and eventually you are just used to this

Its not WOW omg amazing anymore because your familer with this feeling

Same for me and acid its hard to get back that first HOLY SHIT THIS IS AMAZING feeling because Im used to what acid feels like now

This doesnt mean its not fun for me anymore Just that im not getting as carried away with it as i first did

 

[Jaza]

You simply need to realise - every time you take MDMA your body (as well as your mind) becomes more adjusted to it. In life your average person only gets 50-150 MDMA usages before it slows down dramatically. This number will depend on the individual's body, but also the frequency with which they use.

In a way, you have two options:

#1) You can use it more than once a month, every month. You can pop 25-60 times a year as many many people do. In 3yrs (and probably much less) it won't really work anymore. You'll probably stop enjoying it seriously halfway through, and you'll definitely start doubling and maybe even tripling your dosage from when you first started. You'll be come cynical about the drug and stop learning from it very quickly. You'll also stand a certain chance of damaging yourself, no matter how much you don't feel it now you could have it haunt you in 30yrs time.
In short, your experiences on MDMA will form a small part of your life before you tire of it when you lose it.

#2) You can use it 3-8 times a year. You can space it out regularly (i.e. once every 5-10wks on average). You can start when you're 18 and still be going when you're nearing 30, and even beyond that (went rolling with a 36yr old last week who got fucked off the same two pills I did over ~11hrs). You can avoid the seriously bad comedowns, the depression during the week, any small amount of dependency... In fact you can make almost the entire MDMA experience positive (unkown long-term affects notwithstanding). It will never be the same as it was those first few times, but you'll still get that kick, it's still one of the best things in the world. Nothing like taking a 5-6mnth break and rolling for 12hrs at a rave.
In short, you can use the drug in a way that makes every experience special. You can use to enhance experiences, to learn things, and to grow with people over years. You can keep it healthy and never require huge dosages to get to that place. You can be a safer user and use it as a part of your life over the long term.

You choose, I know many people who've done the first one and are happy they did. They no longer do MDMA.

But make the educated choice, make the one you know you want, and if you go for #1 be prepared to face the consequences when you're not doing MDMA in 3yrs time because the magic really is gone.
I chose my choice when I first started because I know what I want to be doing in 5-10 yrs time. Best choice in the world for me...

 

[Doooofus]

^Right on mate

 

[Jimboach]

if i see another thread about losing the magic in the next year im going to kill myselfffffffffffffff 8(

I think every discussion board on every possible topic has that repetitive thread that keeps rearing it's head. It's the nature of the beast. If you really think about it--at this point, everyone's pretty much said everything about everything. Life is redundant.

 

[Ismene]

This number will depend on the individual's body, but also the frequency with which they use.


I disagree. I think the by far the most important thing is the quality of the drug and how you are feeling at that moment.

You can take it once every 6 months, be in a shit mood on the day and have a lousy experience.

And you can take it three times in one week, be in a great mood on the third time and have the greatest experience of your life.