Loneliness

Well guys I also had some personal experience about this kinda problem and I'm damn sure this is some kinda loneliness that's why that person is feeling like this he should keep himself busy in his loneliness time like workout or other work.
 
I think that when I find someone I will be even more lonely than I am right now because it is always getting worse. I'm not going to get over this it is human nature.

I'm not completely self hating and my self esteem isn't that low. I am heading into interviews stoned and being bombarded with technical and interpersonal questions for an hour by 3 people and being completely open and chill. I have self confidence just fine or I wouldn't be able to perform in interviews. In fact, I am far, far smarter and more attractive than the average man. I already love myself, my mind is just fucked up from loneliness. The only area in life I have no confidence is with talking to cute girls unless they initiate conversation with me in which I'm fine. It is a biological reaction of the egotistical mind, to fill oneself with negative thoughts when they arn't getting laid. That is why people have a proclivity to form relationships and reproduce. This type of behaviour will happen to a huge number of people who never have sexual relations, it is human instinct to become depressed about things like this. Most people arn't crazy different like me though, so they end up getting laid because that's the way life goes, otherwise depression would be more widespread. I think very differently so weird shit like this happens to me, I've always been a misfit, I don't go along with too many of these common trends... but I think I will end up in a very loving relationship.

I don't put girls on pedastles or anything like that dude I just never hit on them for some reason, I don't think I am capable of doing so because of the way loneliness has affected me. The only thing I hate about myself is my inability to attract girls into my life. And weed is just weed I smoked it thousands of times and I am not any dumber.

And I think a romantic relationship will bring an amount of joy to my life that is currently incomprehensible to me. I think the problem might be more that I dislike the common human in general because they often act like robots with little self awareness and who don't think for themselves. I just don't vibe with most people, I need to find the people out there who are like me.
 
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The only area in life I have no confidence is with talking to cute girls .


Have you tried talking to one's that are not "cute" ?

Maybe you are setting your sights too high, batting above your average. If you have to generalize and group individual beings into categories such as cute or not cute then you are never going to make a connection with another human as an individual, you have already lumped them into a group without seeing the uniqueness in everyone.

Seems pretty shallow to me, I sympathise with your pain but I think your own thinking is a large part of the problem.
Ask yourself the question "what do I really want ?" and go right into that question, follow it logically through to the extreems, really really dig deep and find out (apart from the idea of having some "Cute chick" as an attachment) what is it that makes you happy, what are your passions, then start doing those things, the most interesting and attractive people are the ones completely immersed in doing what makes them happy, romance seems to rush in and fill the space like a vacuum when you stop focussing on it and get on with something else in life, when you start doing that before you know it all sorts of people will start finding you an interesting and dersirable person to be around.

But if the focus is constantly one of "I am so unhappy, I am so lonely, I am never going to find love" then that is exactly what the universe if going to give you, you say "I want love" and the universe says "yes you do" and that is exactly what you get, "you - wanting love"

You say "I need money" and the universe says "yes you do" and delivers the experience of "you - needing" again.

Change the way you describe the world to yourself, change the perspective, YOU have to be the one that starts looking for the "wonder" of being alive and not just stuck on the search for some hypothetical generic thing called a relationship.

Good luck with it all, and as other people have said in this thread you are still pretty young, plenty of time left for life to throw some surprises at you, just lighten up a bit, stop taking it all so bloody seriously.
 
If the young women on BL start sifting through this thread, I believe there will be a surge of pm and inboxing. Reading your thoughts about your lives and your loneliness definitely got my attention, but I'm old. I hope that tons of BL ladies start surfing through more topics more regularly because this one is a damn fine read.

One of my sons got married in December. He is 33. He had never been on a single date. He is quiet, extremely shy, and has a bad self concept. I couldn't figure it out at all. He is tall and handsome, got his degree in computer science, and went to work writing software.

Software developers seem to really get screwed over because the field is still largely men. The only women at the company my son wrote for were the girls up front answering the phone. The entire rest of the organization was male. I felt so bad for my kid... here he was, wonderful to me and the rest of the family, working hard, saving money, and becoming convinced that the universe wanted him to be a lonely virgin his whole life. As a mom, when you have a terrific son like that, it makes you lonely for him, and helpless too.

The economy went to shit as we all know, and he got laid off. He was off for a year. That's when the bottom of the bottom really hit him. No job or money or prospects or friends or anything. I didn't bring it up but if he wanted to talk about it, we did. He asked me the saddest questions..."What's wrong with me? Why do I have to live my life so fucking lonely all the time?"

After a year, he found a position working on library computers for the county. Libraries have male and female employees by the score, and he had to go from one library to the next, installing, repairing, and updating computers in libraries.

A bold young woman who had been watching him for a month got up the nerve to go over to him and invite him to lunch.

A year later, they married. She's 30, he's 33, and neither of them had any experience with relationships. They are learning it all on the fly, and they are learning it together.

His dad and I, not to mention siblings and everybody else, were AMAZED. Truly we just could not believe that after ALL that time alone and the misery he felt but never said and the loneliness he suffered but rarely mentioned, he has a wife, and his happiness is intensified by the long lonely road that preceded it.

It's not impossible, gentlemen. I hope you realize that you can and most likely WILL find a partner to share your life with.

(Even with a spouse, and kids, you'll still feel lonely sometimes. I can't explain it.)
 
Cool post I think I'm going to slit my worthless wrists though. Fuck it, I hate my life and I wish I was dead, and I am on a 2 day alcohol bender which shall continue tomorrow. Really want to destroy myself

edit - things arn't so bad but booze always makes me real self destructive... it's a terrible thing that liquor. I am lucky to be alive and should stop complaining and smile but it's easier said than done

Part of me wants to live it up, make the most out of life and party... the other half of me wants to die. Part of me loves weed, part of me hates it. Etc etc I don't even know who I am anymore, apart from a lost soul.

I'm sick of being such a little bitch with no self confidence because of this shit, I can't live like a little bitch anymore I'm a little boy trapped in an alpha males body.
 
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I'm sick of being such a little bitch with no self confidence because of this shit, I can't live like a little bitch anymore I'm a little boy trapped in an alpha males body.

Why are you a "little bitch"? Because your interpretation of society's standards tells you so?
Think for yourself and, in doing so, discover exactly who this 'self' is and what he's all about. Until then, this is self-piteous psychological masturbation.

Do not misconstrue that as an attack. However, if it were not frivolous thinking, then tell me this - What good is it doing you? What good has it done for you? Most importantly, what good will it do for you?

The alcohol is doing you no favors, either. By all means, I encourage you to continue to consume it - but only if your sole intention is to feel worthless, ineffectual and disgusted. And it does not sound at all to me as though you are in search of those particular feelings.

~ vaya
 
I really did want to encourage those of you that needed it, a few posts up from here.

But now? Well now, I'm on the other side of the issue.

I have been celibate for a few months and I am dying for a hug.

I had no idea how much being untouched would make me feel so damn lonely.

I miss sex. My husband can't so I'm committed to that, as part of the changes I need to make in my life.

I asked him for a hug when I got back from out of town but he's too tired or not into it or whatever. He hugged me in a half hearted way.

I want to hug a man the way I do when I'm cumming, holding him into me with the muscles in my arms straining to pull the man into my heart and lungs.

I want to throw my legs over a mans lap and be encircled by his arms. I want to put my head down on his shoulder and feel him tighten his hold on my whole upper half, pulling my head down into his chest.

I don't have the option of doing those hugs with my husband. It's not his fault, but his legs are fucked. I can't put pressure on his legs and he can't lay on them. Ok I understand all of that and we do what we can and it's ok.

He is totally anti masturbation. I do it occasionally but it has lost it's luster for me because I can't hug myself the way I want.

I'm not talking about holding someone for 10 minutes. I'm talking about that thing where you are done fucking and the afterglow washes in and there is an intense few moments of tightening your arms around that person, burying your face in his or her neck or hair, and letting the physical pressure say what you know you never could.

I enjoy sex. I enjoy orgasms. I enjoy all the stuff I just wrote about. Excuse me while I just feel straight up sorrow as my favorite parts of life fall away. I am 12 years younger than my husband, so maybe when I reach into my 60s I won't miss it anymore.

That's a long time. To me it will be a very lonely time. I know there's a lesson I have to learn through this, so I can handle it. It is hard for me, like trying to kick... when I want to feel like I'm part of someone else and we are both part of something bigger than both of us, it's a desire every bit as strong as any desire I ever felt for oxycontin.

I am miserably lonely in my body.
 
Cheer up ugly *virtual hug* maybe you need more friends? Sounds like a frustating scenario though.

I actually got laid over the weekend, I've had a wonderful 5 day party spree. I met a bunch of really chill likeminded girls,<snip>
I know why I'm depressed now - this is what I need to be doing all the time, and I don't have much opportunity to do party and meet people these days. Just need a fucking job, and friends who want to have fun all the time.

Getting laid didn't help my loneliness though, but I even met a cute girl on the train ride home so I think I'm doing pretty well. I'm definately a bit of an alcoholic though but God have I ever been having a wonderful times with so many new people lately. I just want to have fun all the damn time.
 
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Loneliness or Alone

I am 50 yrs old and been married for 25 of those years. Here is my "wisdom" on loneliness. I have almost always had other people in my life and have never really been alone. But the last 10-15 years have been my most lonely. Loneliness is not only about being alone. Can only a member of the opposite sex cure loneliness? Being in a relationship? Married? Absolutely not! Loneliness can not be cured by adding another body to your life. I love to get laid as much as anyone, but that has never cured my loneliness. I have been with over 100 women in my life. Not a number I brag about or am proud of. While having sex will fix your loneliness for a short time, it only makes it more intense and hopeless after it's over. She leaves, I leave and then you realize just how alone you are. Sorry for the incoherent rambling but my point is: Being alone should never be confused with loneliness. Getting laid or getting in a relationship just so you won't be alone will not help loneliness. I don't have the answer for loneliness but I wish I did. Marriage and 3 kids and I am as lonely as a man who has never had a family...
 
Loneliness is our true condition, there is only One. Not what you want to hear but there are people who walk this Earth alone out of choice, for Truth. Spiritual Truth aside, back to reality:

I highly recommend you cease basing your expectation of happiness and fulfillment on another person. Say you find your "soulmate", whatever the fuck that is, one of you is going to die first leaving the other alone until they pass on despite both of you being totally happy until that point. It is futile to hold this position and it is self imposed. You are boxing yourself in by choice. Once you realize that no one person can make you happy then you are free to move towards what can make you happy.. but YOU have to move towards it. Expecting some other person to bring it to you is fantasy. Unfortunately this is how we're programmed in the West.. it creates much sadness and pain in people, but that is how they like people to be.. split and hurting, because it means you are vunerable to all sorts of shit they can sell to you.

I recommend not smoking weed all the time. It puts you out of touch with reality and people DO pick up on it if you're stoned.. you are not on the same page because your mind is clouded and slightly slower than everyone else's. Same if you're drunk, on LSD, whatever.. sober people are focused and can sense who is tripping. Unless you want a stoner girlfriend most girls do not want to be with a stoner.. simply because you are focused on yourself and not on reality. They want someone who will pay them attention. Genuine attention. Not someone who is off daydreaming.

I smoked from 16-24 pretty much constantly. Never had a girlfriend or so much as a kiss. I was young, shy, naturally introverted and interested in expanding my knowledge rather than chasing muff around. I stopped smoking last september. I also embarked on a period of celibacy, and I was enjoying it too. And wouldn't you know, a girl pretty much throws herself at me and im now with her. I recommend a period of celibacy.. girls sense it subconsciously, it makes you a magnet, and it also makes you feel fantastic! First week you may struggle not to masturbate, but from then your energy builds, you are more alert and vibrant. Chicks recognize this, it is biological. Use nature to your advantage. It is the secret no one knows..

I was lonely before. Now I lost my virginity and have a girlfriend. I'm not alone, but I'm still lonely. But I realized my expectations and beliefs were self imposed. I am the same man I was before, nothing is different. It is all in your head.
 
I can't live another day knowing I've never had a girlfriend and probably never will, no one gives a fuck about me in the most special way so fuck it, Iwanted to kill myself before this week long bender with a hard roll thrown in, I'm burnt toast now forever alone fuck it I'm out. I took waytoo much Mdma last Friday I've been drunk ever since cause I know I've most likely destroyed my mind, plus I am depressed when I'm not drunk. There was a ppoint recently when I decided to become an alcoholic.

And your advice kinda makes sense, and kinda doesn't. I mean, I know you're right, but then again although I'm aware of these spiritual states of being I still end up just being an ego who needs things like friends and sex. It is no fantasy that I would be much happier if I were in love. You are overthinking things, I shouldn't need to quit smoking pot because I'm not a daydreamer when I'm stoned, I'm basically the same person in an altered state of awareness. And I'm not about to stop masturbating... wtf. This should be EASY I don't need to change cute girls are just stucked up and mean pretty much 100% of the time
 
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I can't live another day knowing I've never had a girlfriend and probably never will, no one gives a fuck about me in the most special way so fuck it, Iwanted to kill myself before this week long bender with a hard roll thrown in, I'm burnt toast now forever alone fuck it I'm out. I took waytoo much Mdma last Friday I've been drunk ever since cause I know I've most likely destroyed my mind, plus I am depressed when I'm not drunk. There was a ppoint recently when I decided to become an alcoholic.

And your advice kinda makes sense, and kinda doesn't. It is no fantasy that I would be much happier if I were in love. You are overthinking things, I shouldn't need to quit smoking pot because I'm not a daydreamer when I'm stoned, I'm basically the same person in an altered state of awareness. And I'm not about to stop masturbating... wtf. This should be EASY I don't need to change cute girls are just stucked up and mean pretty much 100% of the time

Hey there guy, I hope you're having a better day by the time you're reading this. I read this thread before I signed up as a bluelighter, and have a few thoughts. However, sorry if I'm echoing others to some degree.

First off, I can attest to the social returns I and others have enjoyed with the aid of drugs/alcohol. And you're at the perfect age for that kind of thing. By that I mean you can bounce back from hangovers and your body and mind should be more resilient in dealing with the damage from drugs. However, I find those substances beneficial for either going out and meeting someone and possibly having casual non-committal sex, or just for laying down the first step for something looming greater in the future. In the case of the latter, you can meet someone while in that state, have a conversation/exchange, and plan a date in the future. Of course, the hard part is still to be accomplished in the date. I'm not great at that kinda thing, but usually if a girl says yes, unless they are strange, they have some degree of interest. Given that, they are probably nervous and self-conscious to an extent, and they are probably worried about what you think of them. What I mean is, the more you get out, whether you're using drugs/alcohol or not, you increase your odds of meeting women, and by that increase your odds of conversing and planning a date. And when that comes, generally the girls will have a lot of the same concerns you do - it's natural. I don't believe in fate myself, but if you have chemistry it will come across over the date. I'm pretty awkward in those situations myself, and I've had my share of painful dates, but the ones where you share a laugh, or a common interest which results in a conversation an hour or two long, well that makes the painful ones worth it. I'll echo some sentiments of bluelighters before me and say, if you are ready to give up, feel you have little to lose, why not just throw yourself recklessly out there. I don't mean you should be abrasive or flippant, but maybe aloofly as possible, just really casually ask girls around on dates. When you see a pretty girl, or someone you find interesting, just say "Fuck it" and do it. I've done it, and while I've only had a handful of dates from this method, I always feel better having made the effort instead of letting her just walk out of my life. I apologize if I'm missing something here, and this advice is off base. If so, lemme know, and I'll try to modify it. I think everyone, male and female, struggle with something at least similar, or to maybe a lesser extent as you have been. That's not to mitigate what you're experiencing, but it is to help connect you to the human condition. One more thing I will say is there are millions out there alone struggling to find their own companion, and while that can be construed as sad, it should also be uplifting in the sense that any one of those millions could be a match for you. It's just going to take a combination of effort and luck. Oh, and while it's not always a deal-breaker, I do believe drug and alcohol problems probably won't help you attract a girlfriend. Most people believe addiction implies a mate who will not allot the attention a relationship usually requires. Once again, that's a generalization, and some may disagree, but from my experience, as an addict, most girls don't clamor for the addict. So if possible, I'd enjoy the booze and rolls as responsibly as you can, if you can, but not make it a part of your identity.

And I can't stress this enough, the attitude deeming "cute girls" (or any type of girl) as stuck up or any other negative attribute you feel you should ascribe to them is going to keep you single. I'd say try to at least not say those things aloud in front of girls, but if you can, try to eliminate that way of thinking. It is going to put off girls, and people in general. I don't mean to attack you on that, and I can understand feeling that way, but please trust me on this. Please avoid those generalizations.

I hope you start getting those dates (or hookups), and good luck buddy.
 
Hence why Mdma and booze can help me meet people. I won't be abusing these drugs forever... my life is just so fucking shitty though I have to be fucked until I get a job at least. I do try to avoid generalizations but a lot of girls have been so fucking mean to me. Many of them think they are the shit and have power over men because they're hot I guess. The odd ones are nice though, I've made friends with like 5 girls in the past few days. Like legit likeminded really cool girls. I just don't understand why it's so hard so I am trying to talk to anyone I meet around town cause I def know they like me or at least should if they know what's up. The girl I was with on the weekend said if the average guy around here was half as sweet as me the campus would be a better place. Then again, I was drunk and rolling when I met her, but that just allows me to overcome this loneliness+depression and be myself around others

But I am at least making an effort to meet girls wherever I go, getting better at talking to random ones, becoming more confident and I am happy when I'm not sober at least, which is most of the time
 
Life is amazing though I just need more friends and a fucking job, and I know I need to stop smoking so much weed cause I guess like SS said it makes me out of touch with the world of humans. Or I don't even know what it does, it's such a complicated high... but I feel like I should definately stop

It might be too late for me to stop, in any case life is great, I just wish I knew more cool people who wanted to hang out all day ad enjoy this existence before we grow old and die.
 
So your not really gay your just wanting to have someone no matter who. their are partner ship websites for this you know. I have a deprshion right now... I hate my life even though its great in the moment and I have no reason to hate it :/

Your problem is easy solveabble in a year. I had the same problem. You prbably hate going out side and you jsut want to be inside and play computer watch tv. Well goi outside do some cool athletic sport like aprkur d´find a group with people in your age and start going their. Well hell even hot yoga would do it go to a bar et drunk as fuck and you will soon find that it gets easyer talking to girls/guys. You might think no way Im doing that. Well if you dont want to atleast try dont. Live like a lonly mother lover and DIE ALONE!
Its not hard you have to learn the skill relearn it its called socializing.

Life is amazing though I just need more friends and a fucking job, and I know I need to stop smoking so much weed cause I guess like SS said it makes me out of touch with the world of humans. Or I don't even know what it does, it's such a complicated high... but I feel like I should definately stop

It might be too late for me to stop, in any case life is great, I just wish I knew more cool people who wanted to hang out all day ad enjoy this existence before we grow old and die.

You know my depresion involves that I have friends that iwll hang out with me al day but their wierd. Ones an outsider and the other is okay but he does alot of stupiud stuff. Then I have 3 other good friends that never really have time for me :/ and then theirs my girl. I love her but she doesnt count. I do stuff with her but I am getting these deprshions from dxm becasue of her I meen what should I tell her I hardly have freinds? But since a year I have pretty much doubled my friends :) And I am getting new ones alot.

I dont know I just feel gross right now and hate my life even though I jsut came back from some friends. :/
 
you just need more friends too I suppose. But your advice is good... I just haven't had much opportunity to socialize lately, and I am learning how to meet people in places that I go.

I'm doing pretty well at this... I just got another girls number at the dog park.
 
you just need more friends too I suppose. But your advice is good... I just haven't had much opportunity to socialize lately, and I am learning how to meet people in places that I go.

I'm doing pretty well at this... I just got another girls number at the dog park.

haha not bad ;) Yeah im talking with my girl or shes not yet my girl but I hope that she soon will be over the phone haha... She looks so good! and is so nice :)
 
SS - I'm going to try this no masturbation thing as a spiritual exercise, and I have seen it mentioned frequently in eastern related literature that a wise man preserves his semen. Perhaps I will find myself able to transmute this sexual energy into something greater like compassion, or at least experience an increase in sex-related dreams. I don't doubt that girls can sense the effect that a buildup of sexual energy has on a man. Maybe I masturbate too much.

Vaya - I know alcohol does me no good. I am still feeling the repercussions of that week long bender; it makes me feel very dumb after. I feel that once in a while it's ok though. And labelling myself those negative things is not something I am doing perpetually - it only occurs when I let my ego take control. Any old ego will put itself down for something like this. My ability to be happy is related to my ability to transcend my ego, which comes into various degrees of focus and so produces various degrees of pain. Most people care for transcendental bliss because it is pretty easy to feed the ego's insatiable appetite often enough to keep it from freaking out. I'm really into yoga though, and if I am practicing daily I find that this creates an incredibly positive effect on my state of being, reducing my desire for mountains of weed, and feisty sex.

I also have to work on not being stoned all the time in order to reduce the negative effect this addiction has on my psyche. I think that I should actually work on phasing it out entirely, because it messes my head up worse than other drugs.
 
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This should be EASY I don't need to change cute girls are just stucked up and mean pretty much 100% of the time
What makes it hard?
Take me through your typical meeting with a girl and tell me what happens; explain to me the awful, shocking nature of the human female in all of her disgusting glory.

Just, it seems like it's probably got something to do with the fact that you're high: girls are about as nervous as guys. I go out and talk to women and it is easy, it's so easy you wouldn't believe that you just had to actually open your mouth whilst facing a human stranger of your preferred gender.

After that, it involves avoiding letting the wrong thing get said, because you don't want to offend or insult someone whom you've just met, whilst also attempting to proposition them for casual sex! Damnit, man, where's your sense of decency?! It's probably better (for you) to meet a girl, get to know her by going out multiple times, asking loads of questions or just listening to her talk and responding when she needs responding to, and then let things naturally run their course--the anticipation of even a kiss could drive you wild with joy, rather than manufactured bliss or 'ecstasy' and, finally, when you touch in a romantic and special way it will mean something more than just... she doesn't mind being with people who claim to need expensive amphetamine-like drugs to even approach a stranger...

You don't seem to understand this 'girlfriend' business. It's a meeting of the minds and bodies and involves two consenting individuals deciding to embark upon a relationship together, and if she doesn't feel that you're boyfriend-material because you're constantly so stoned that you can't see, or you chat her up and she then discovers that your eyeballs are whipping about due to nystagmus and your pupils are like huge black glossy dinner plates, she's likely to be less-than impressed; maybe even frightened, because not every girl knows about drugs, understands that being stoned can be normal or that MDMA just makes you very caring and loving.

If I was talking to a girl and she turned out to be tripping, I wouldn't immediately think "great, an opportunity for sex!" I'd think "I wonder how I'm going to be able to safely get this person back to their home and then come back and meet someone sober enough to actually speak to me and get to know me." So, I guess you should just try putting yourself in their shoes and attempting to see what you did wrong.

However, obviously-pretty women end up getting constantly asked out by other men and end up being constantly objectified, potentially even made to feel as if they deserve harrassment for having physical beauty, and generally get treated like some sort of walking sex-toy by a lot of men. This is the reason why so many women are quick to stop a guy in his tracks. It's probably more out of a desire to save time, to not be objectified and to actually get along with their day than to deliberately upset the four-hundredth guy that day who's invited her for a drink or just plain ordered her to have sex with him.

I'm not saying that you're failing to make any progress here. Hell, you've met women and you're talking to them openly, but what happens when you get into a relationship? Do you snort a bump of MDMA before taking her out to dinner, where you won't eat anything but you'll chew your tongue and gulp down glass after glass of ice-water with an empty plate before you, asking her if she can feel the wonderful energy of this room before telling her that the music's too slow? Come on! Be realistic!

What about if you end up in a relationship and she wants to move in? She only knows MDMA-Guy, so you remain on it full-time until psychosis grips your mind and body and tears your life asunder? You don't even need to be an alcoholic; alcohol, actually, is the scariest of them all, 'cause I've seen drunken guys and I've been (we've all been) drunken guys: we grope and we don't like being told "no", plus we lack even the most basic inhibitions, have the crudest thought process and physical violence appears to be the best means of solving any problem with another guy--I say I'd never hit a girl, but accidents can happen when you're drunk and, hrm, look, I'm not against you and I don't really know you, just I have a good inkling of what's going wrong...

Stay sober and then go out and talk to girls. Go out to bars and find girls amongst guys who've been drinking and then see whom they find more attractive: a drooling, stumbling moron slobbering all over them, or someone capable of operating all of their limbs in tandem without getting confused and thrown out of some tragic club? Seriously. Go out one night sober into the middle of everything and just watch everyone else with that drunken gait and glassy-eyed stare, the threats, the crying, the joy followed by inappropriate singing and dancing, the nudity, the vomit, the urine (just all of the bodily fluids) and the melancholy and everything else.

You're clearly a functional addict, if an addict at all, and becoming addicted to alcohol will likely bring you pain; worse pain than you've ever felt. I know that having almost lost my own liver to the damned stuff it was fucking painful for me, but you're treating it as some sort of foregone conclusion--you'll need to become an alcoholic in order to be happy?

Why?
Explain this nonsense.
Please!
Drinking until it's what you need will cost you more than you'd like to lose, trust me on that if nothing else, please.

Good luck and take care.
I believe in you and I hope you'll try my sobriety suggestion: in the end it seems pretty obvious really, and you can always order a glass of coke or orange juice or something to make it seem like you're drinking. But, when trying to gain the affection and sexual attraction of a stranger, if you're lacking in experience, you'll probably want as much of your wits about you as you can muster. :-/
 
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