• HEALTH & RECOVERY
    Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules Thread Directory 1 Thread Directory 2
    Mindfulness Links Addiction & Mind
    Sober Living Partner Program (SLiPP)
  • H&R Moderators: VerbalTruist

Liver health - *Mega-merged*

is my liver ruined?

I have only been doing cold water extractions for a month

but in feburary i was doing 4 g of apap a day for three days a week, all three days consecutive

This lasted four weeks

before then i was using a lower dose and less frequently

I know i am a fool.

I also took alcohol during that time but never the same day as pills
 
Last edited:
The amount of APAP you took and the frequency you used it is moderate. Unless you have a history of liver problems, or are experiencing some kind of foreign pain, you have nothing to worry about.

What would make you think you have liver damage?
 
I wouldn't say ruined, but you put it through some tough shit. Was the 4g of APAP a day done in one dose or through out the day? Because the daily maximum (according to the bottle) is 4g, so if it was spread out into more than 3 doses every day, I don't see how it could have done any serious amount of harm.

Be safe and continue to CWE.
 
probably not, i would think permanant damage woud occur after months of this or increased usage.

btw, welcome to BL
 
it was one dose.

Also i might mention that i took adderall a few hrs before that dose probaly 5-10 times which i also found out is metabolized by the liver

More specifically, i know my liver went through something hard, but do i need to talk to a doctor about it? because i am losing heathcare in as few months
 
You should still be fine. Like Blow Viper asked, What (physical) reasons would make you think you have liver damage? Is anything out of the ordinary? Is any...liver damaged-stuff happening? (I don't know what symptoms a damaged liver causes...)
 
the high started becoming crappy last few times i did it. that may have been what made me realize i was taking some toxic shit. But a few weeks before i found out about CWE i took that dose and got on a plane. threw up on the landing. that was the only time i vomitted thogh

A little more info: i was taking around 3g once a week in one dose for a couple of months befoer that
 
Throwing up could be from just getting motion-sickness. And (for me) if I do opiates several days (lets say 10) in a row, the last 3 times or so, I just feel depressed (which is the major reason why I haven't run into any serious opiate addiction problems yet.) You're good.

Oh yeah, and welcome to Bluelight.
 
Tacobell said:
it was one dose.

Also i might mention that i took adderall a few hrs before that dose probaly 5-10 times which i also found out is metabolized by the liver

More specifically, i know my liver went through something hard, but do i need to talk to a doctor about it? because i am losing heathcare in as few months
Click to expand...

If you are losing healthcare, DEFINITELY go to your doctor and request a full blood panel. It will have all sorts of info in it, including liver enzymes. If your doctor asks why, just tell him that you are about to lose your insurance and want to get checked out before it happens. Its not at all unreasonable and happens all the time.

Your enzymes might be elevated, or they might be fine. The max amount you should ever take at once is 2000mg, 4000mg is over 24hrs so you were definitely above "moderate" use as someone else said above. It is totally worth it to get checked while you still can. If they are elevated at all, there are supplements such as milk thistle and others that can be taken to improve liver health. Just search around the forum for more info on that.
 
Tacobell said:
it was one dose.

Also i might mention that i took adderall a few hrs before that dose probaly 5-10 times which i also found out is metabolized by the liver

More specifically, i know my liver went through something hard, but do i need to talk to a doctor about it? because i am losing heathcare in as few months
Click to expand...

Talking to a doctor probably wouldn't hurt. While I doubt you have done any kind of serious damage to your liver, I'm not a physician -- and if I were I wouldn't make any kind of diagnosis based on Bluelight posts.

It sounds like you're now aware of APAP's potential for liver toxicity and are taking appropriate precautions. I'd say get a checkup just to ease your mind, and keep on doing CWEs in the future.
 
I took 4g a day of APAP for a 2 or 3 months (in seperate 1g doses) straight via OTC painkillers, as well as whatever was getting through with the CWE I was doing a few times a week for the last month or so of that.

I stopped because I was getting rather intense pain in my stomach and right side every time I took a dose. I don't know if that was linked to the APAP or what because I didn't think pain usually presented with APAP overuse, but there you have it.

For what it's worth I had a liver function test earlier this week (after a week or two of minimal APAP consumption, and for reasons not linked to my APAP/CWE use) which came back perfectly normal. So I decided to celebrate by doing a 300mg codeine CWE. Dosed it and once again spent the entire afternoon feeling like I had a sharp rock twisting around in my right side and my gut.

Anyway the point is, I was taking a fair bit of APAP and my test came back normal, so I imagine you'll be fine as well. Though if you're experiencing negative symptoms from something, the most logical solution would be to stop consuming it.
 
Last edited:
Tacobell said:
it was one dose.

Also i might mention that i took adderall a few hrs before that dose probaly 5-10 times which i also found out is metabolized by the liver

More specifically, i know my liver went through something hard, but do i need to talk to a doctor about it? because i am losing heathcare in as few months
Click to expand...

move to canada :D
 
Heirarchy_of_Paranoia.gif


You'll be fine. I've done worse and my liver's totally fine.
 
Go to your health services clinic. Do not find excuses to put it off. Do not say to yourself "well I was worried but I asked some people in an anonymous forum on the internet about my liver, and some of them said it was all good, so I don't need any tests." It sounds stupid when you say it out loud, doesn't it? That's because it is. You're not stupid.

Yes, they can and will do a blood test that will include liver enzymes. It is free. It is your liver. Why are you still sitting in front of your computer without an appointment?

Oh yeah, and since you are one of the lucky ones with health insurance, get an STD test, a cholesterol test, and have a long chat with a doctor about anything else that might concern you too.
 
Tacobell said:
I have only been doing cold water extractions for a month

but in feburary i was doing 4 g of apap a day for three days a week, all three days consecutive

This lasted four weeks

before then i was using a lower dose and less frequently

I know i am a fool.

I also took alcohol during that time but never the same day as pills
Click to expand...

you could have done 400g of APAP in February or in 1992... hepatoxicity from APAP can take a few days to become evident, but longer than a 'few days' means you didn't yet kill your liver.

of course its not good to push the envelope in the long run, but you stayed within limits anyway. 4g is allowed, more than that is putting yourself at much greater risk. but the less APAP you consume during your lifetime, the happier your liver will be.
 
shitttt your liver should still be good give ample amount of time inbetween overusuage.
A couple years back my younger friend got mono, they did a MRI and said he had the liver of a 35 year old alcoholic.

we where like sixteen and seventeen about 1 1/5 years of straight binges onalcohol and assorted pharms lots of oc's benzo's and o-t-c

I believe if you believe your bodies fucked then your bodies fucked if you believe its fine its fine.
 
Last edited:
I honestly don't understand why APAP is even on the market, I've never noticed it to have any analgaesic effect at all, and it's so horrible for your body.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top