oh yes it does. if you think it doesn't please explain to me why i don't know anyone who has tried pure mescaline sulfate.
can anyone give me a list of key officials or tell me where to find names of people involved in anything funded by the government involving drugs?
I think it's that drugs are a danger to our children and that the idea of people enjoying themselves in ways they don't approve of is wrong.
All drugs ought to be legitimised IMO!
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It never ceases to amaze me how our society absolutely NEEDS science to prove something is of worth or even real. Why are these people the ones that matter? I understand what you are saying, that the illegality of these drugs makes research hard- but its not impossible, thats why there is research on these substances. As I said, I don't believe many in the scientific community care about psychedelics drugs all that much. Whats the profit in marketing a substance like MDMA which could potentially cure PTSD when more money can be made with the ongoing prescription of addictive benzo's and the like?
Reality sucks but its true. Even Sandoz knew at the moment that LSD was discovered that there was no economic value in LSD, and gave it away for free, for reasearch. I wish things were not like that, but they are.
burn out said:you conveniently ignored the other points i made as well as ismene's post. psychedelics being illegal, asbolutely, without question prevents some people from using them.
i think you're wrong. i work at a large research university and this may come as a shock to you, but there are people here who are actually interested in doing research for the sake of learning and not solely for making money. in fact there are people here who could be making a lot more money if they had chosen a different job.
no ecomonic value? what are you talking about? an LSD trip can last 12 hours. a licensed professional administering the drug to a patient in a psychotherapuetic setting could charge anywhere from 60-100 dollars an hour for that type of thing. and then you have the potential for multiple sessions. if you knew anything about LSD psychotherapy when it was actually tried, you would know that one dose of LSD does not magically solve all of the patients problems. oh no, there were people who returned for as many as 50-60 sessions and still weren't cured.
Well, how on earth am I meant to know why you can't obtain mescaline sulphate?
Yes, I know that not all people are obsessed with money and blah blah blah, but when it comes time to feed the family, I think most people are going to take the Easy Road. Why wouldn't you? Anyway you example of University attendeeds is irreleveant; of course they would want to research, thus the attendance at Uni![]()
Whats your point though- that psychedelics will just be exploited as many other medical treatments are (think SSRI's?)- thats not good. Why would you want to legalise a drug so that you have to pay 1200 dollars to ingest it...thats madness and it would never happen. Seriously. If thats what legalising these things will do, fuck that shit.
Burn out- a hint or tip- dont take things personally- you are not all that fond of drugs as is evident by your posting- but try not to let that skew your perspective.
A controlled free-for-all would be a good compromise.B9 said:^ I didn't suggest an uncontrolled free for all.
Oh wait--that's what we have now. Silly Alfred!