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  • EADD Moderators: Pissed_and_messed | Shinji Ikari

Legal high products in the UK (branded pills and powders)

I think it is quite a useful post.

I recently purchased some butylone, methylone and mephedrone. Although i liked all of them, it was a pain weighing every dose and very inconvenient if you are going out. Sometimes is handier just to get a pill.

Also if you like a particular brand of pill, even if you know the ingredients, you will never know the ratios of one chemical to another
You don't need to weigh the fuckers out, all water soluble. Get 3 containers, say herb jar size like in supermarkets, put in a known amount of water and a known amount of power. So 1g in 30ml = 100mg in every 3ml. Take out an oral syringe and measure out the dose of each and put into a drink. I find that alcohol drastically improves absorbtion, although maybe you wouldn't. Drink, get fucked up.:D
 
Who says we aren't, Delsyd? *gobblegobblegobblegobblegobble* :D

Don't know whether the relative lack of easy-to-acquire aMT here is a good thing in a way. It's less toxic than meph (and probably many other "legal high" drugs in the UK) but it's also a loooooong trip that probably wouldn't suit many, unfortunately. I would happily eat a lot more aMT than I do but - despite being legal - it's use is nowhere not at all widespread and not is it especially easy to find, sadly :(

Or not sadly depending on how you look at it, I suppose.
 
^Because no cunt will tell me where to get AMT from.
Right thats it I'm going on a big fucking web trawl to find some. Fuck GBL, bring the AMT I need it.

Also Shambles what are you on about me being non-HR? If you measure it my way, then you can work out nice easy blends and its free, unlike paying through the nose for some scales that actually work.
 
Last I heard tea, coffee and perchance alcohol products were legal highs, therefore coming under the term LEGAL;)However Kava is non-legal and I wish I had some of it, even if its weak as fuck compared to GBL:\

Anyway the term "get fucked up" is entirely up to the individual: to wit, my definition is somewhat different than Mugabes:\
 
Now I'm curious.....
What is aMT, what are its effects, similarities to other highs and average length of trip?

Oh, and what are it's dangers?

Biggiro
 
I'll tell you what, BB; aMT is an excellent anti-depressant, and it gets you fucked at the same time (in higher doses). It's certainly a good substitute for booze and G. The afterglow lasts for days, at least.
 
Are there research chemicals that shouldn't be mixed together?

For instance there is one thread detailing the guy's experience on MDPV mixed with Meph...he had a great time, but would that be considered generally dumb-ass and not to be recommended?
What about combo's of the other RC's out there, butylone-Mephedrone or mephedrone-Methylone? Or any other combination you can think up.

As these research chemicals are easily obtainable online, no doubt people will experiment with them...hopefully not frying their brains in the process...

Biggiro
 
meph and MDPV seems a little dangerous and I wouldn't recommend it myself. A lot of people seem to find mephedrone + methylone or butylone + methylone and similar mixes better than the sum of their parts though.
 
Yeah to be fair we did this last time when we were just staying in the house, but its not so easy to take with you

The idea of dissolving it in water and measuring it out accordingly seems a good idea.
As for taking it out with you.....

Well, why not use empty popper bottles? Or something similar?

They are quite small and easy enough to carry a few with you, not a lot of good if you don't also have said empty bottles lying round of course! 8)8)

Biggiro.
 
Mephedrone - "Shake 'n' Vac"??

So I went to the headshop today and asked for mephedrone. They had a new guy at the counter, and he looked confused for a sec, and then said 'oh! you mean shake 'n' vac, right?' Well, I've noticed the drone they sell there says 'shake n vac' on the packet, so I tell the guy yeah, that's what I mean. He says, 'We don't call it mephedrone cos we put other stuff in too, that's why it costs more.' I ask what stuff, and he says lots of things, including (some product name I can't remember) to 'help it go through your body more clean like'. I say fine and take it.

I hadn't gotten any drone from there for aaaages, and I'd forgotten how different it is to the 99.5% mephedrone you get on the internet. This is how it's different, okay:

-quite a bit stronger at first
-slower coming on, and peaks after the same amount of time as normal drone would, BUT it seems to last about an hour more than drone would after the peak
-literally twice the price :X
-pure, solid white colour (rather than crystally-sparkly-white)
-smells kind of 'clean', a bit like air freshener (but it only smells a tiny bit)
-tastes like drone, but less harsh/chemically
-much less drip
-makes my gums/mouth numb, like coke

Does anybody know what's actually in 'Shake 'n' Vac'? Or, can anybody guess what might be in there from my description?

thanks xx
 
no idea, although my friend got some the other day and said it was really good. i would try some but im not paying loads for it so probably stick to my internet crystally meph
 
Nobody will be able to tell you cos nobody knows except whoever cuts the meph. Loads of stuff gets added to these branded products. Caffeine, methylone, butylone, flephedrone, piperazines, geranamine even MDPV - all can be found in branded products. The ingredients change regularly so write down that list, put on a blindfold and stick a pin in it - it's as close as you'll get to finding out what's in the stuff. Buy pure chemicals, do some research and blend your own mixes if you want to ring the changes would be my advice. Wouldn't touch overpriced, unknown branded crap with a shitty stick personally :|
 
ah, I see... well, I actually do know the guy who makes the shake n vac for that shop, as it happens :D I mean, I don't know him that well... he chatted me up at his birthday party, and added me on facebook. One of my friends hangs out with him all the time though. You guys reckon if I asked, he'd tell me? Or would he get pissed off with me? I dunno if it'd be rude, or if he'd be happy to tell me... :S
 
I'd definitely ask him. Whether he tells the truth or not is another matter entirely. The branded stuff is sold at a huge premium and those that sell it don't like their customers knowing how to blend it themselves for fraction of the price. Would be interesting to hear what he says though. Perhaps the OD mods will move this over to EADD as we have this thread on the subject and it would be interesting to hear what someone who blends these kinda things has to say. If he'll say :D
 
^^^^^^^
OP: Shambles hit the nail right on the head, it could be anything. Even asking the guy who cuts it isn't going to guarantee you what it contains. As its been said, you need to go online and get the pure crystalline if you really want mephedrone, why deal with anything else? Especially when its cut and its more expensive than if you would just do a quick little internet deal.


-TheMatador
 
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