cooking k is soo much better then crushing it up manually...the resulting k is far superior and absorbs much more readily..crushing manually is a waste imo
heat should not be a problem since k has a high boiling point
mortal and pestle
jesus christ man do you know how much effort that would involve just to actually get a mortal and pestle
im surprised you dont cook it up because it just seems a lot cleaner on the body when its in a powder which has been cooked up.
If you just crush the crystals up you have essentially just made into smaller crystals.
I know that at least when you boil it with water you actually get left with a powder, which looks alot safer/less toxic for you than crushed up crystals.
m8 we dont get liquid vials where im from, it comes as a crystal.
which is then turned into powder
oh really? ive always just cooked ketamine from the liquid vials of course by pouring the liquid over a ceramic plate placed upon two chopsticks over a boiling pot of water till the contents crystallized and then I scraped up the remaining crystalized powder, and I would crush the crystals up into fine powder.
Ive also gotten it in powder form already from people, does that mean I should recook the already gotten powder / crystal ketamine with water? does this apply for vials as well?
Is powder form more fluffy and light? Does anyone have pics of recooked / powdered ketamine vs crystalized ketamine crushed up into fine powder? Im not getting this as well either. Unless your trying to recook a powder aquired from someone else cause your suspecting impurities?
The principle is you take crystal k and convert it into a form which seems to be absorbed more easily and so results in a stronger drug. It's also more pleasant on the nose.
You do the above by adding water and boiling it down, as slowly as possible for best results.
I don't know the details of the scientific reasoning behind this, if there even is any, but anecdotally it is a useful thing to do.
what's hydration of ketamine supposed to mean? imho this is bullshit, and all what cooking up does is give you a finer powder - which is of course desirable for snorting, but can be archieved much simpler by manually crushing the crystals.cooking the k HYDRATES the k so in a way it does change it slightly
i'm sorry but it does make a huge differance...why not make a line of crystals and a line of cooked k and see for yourself...
cooking the k HYDRATES the k so in a way it does change it slightly, whereas crystal k has not been hydrated and manufactured but never added to water because it has been diverted to the recreational market
at the end of the day you of course can do what you want...but i NEVER snort crystals...the main reasons is that it fucks up my nose and i my stomach, and it makes peeing weird...whereas hydrated k does not produce these side effects and has a much deeper psychedelic head space.
k crystals http://www.tagohio.com/images/ketamine10.jpg
hydrated k (i think) the consistancey is that of talcon powder http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45445000/jpg/_45445710_ketamine512.jpg
It might not make immediate sense, but if you did actually get crystal K and spent a bit of time crushing it, you'd be heading for the frying pan pretty fast, it takes ages and just isn't that easy compared to recooking...
I don't think there's any real chemistry explanation I understand with the crystal stuff though exactly, it's just the tough crystalline form it's in, and unless you're armed with a pestle n mortar and have hours to kill, it's kinda easier to just recook.
K definitely comes in liquid though too in the uk.
what you are doing is dissolving the large ketamine crystals. then evap'in the water will create small crystals, which you then scrape up (crushing and breaking up the crystals formed) and collect for consumption.
How is this different then takin the big shards of K and breaking them down to a fine powder? Seems like making a solution then evap it is waaayy more work then crushing crystals to the consistency you'd like with something like a mortar/pestle or with card and patience.
ive seen some k which is so damn crystalized that it would probably take a whole day if i had to crush 12.5g to get the fluffy powder that cooking will give me.
Goes up the nose better than coke