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Joint Rolling - European vs. American Methods

^If a pack of papers has 32 leaves, and it takes 3-5 tries (i.e. wasted papers) for me to make anything resembling a decent joint, and I smoked for years without a rolling machine, then yeah, that makes sense to me. 4 joints per week x 3 papers per joint= over 600 papers per year. Never had success, something about it just never clicked. When I was smoking rolling tobacco I got to rolling reasonably decent cigs, but after not doing that for a while I can't do that, and joints were always virtually impossible for me to roll. They still are, after a few years and never being able to roll a passable one in a reasonable amount of time I started smoking blunts instead, then got a rolling machine.

Not everyone can roll joints, my hands are shaking and kinda sweaty a lot of the time, which fucks up the rolling process. Also I'm amazingly clumsy and bad with my hands, generally speaking. I like joints a lot, I smoke them almost every day now, but I used to never want to go through the 30 minutes of trouble it'd take me to fashion a half decent joint.
 
I like my MJ with tobacco, at least like 25-40% depending on the potency and moisture content of the weed. I think the moisture factor is huge, and mixing 60/40 evens out the burn.
I will concede it's possible to roll a good, even burning all weed joint, but it's just way easier when it is mixed.

Thinking about the above, I go through a pack of papers like once a week to two weeks... I never thought about how many joints I smoke. I literally don't have a pipe.
 
Yerg said:
I'm not sure about the HR value of this thread if it's encouraging people to start smoking with tobacco. Smoking tobacco is bad for you, it's addictive, you shouldn't do it. Do as I say, not as I do.
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Based on HR logic, should there even be a cannabis discussion? How can you reduce harm that isn't harmful to begin with?
 
^Well, it is harmful per se, it's habitiuating, and it causes freakouts and panic attacks. In addition to that, many people use it in hazardous ways, such as smoking from shoddy home-made devices, and there's also the problem of contaminated or adulterated weed. I personally don't buy into the idea that cannabis is harmless, it is very safe in comparison to most other common recreational drugs, but not without its dangers.
 
Monkeybizness said:
i think you missed guess .. lol going strong

but any way

why do they roll joints with tobacco in Europe ? mj is so smooth tobacco is so harsh
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I roll with tobacco because I like the effects I experience from tobacco + marijuana (though I don't smoke cigs), it makes a fatter joint (though again, the amount of weed I have isn't a problem - I'm just greedy) and it hits smoother. Yeah, it may seem harsher at first, but it is smoother, even though that doesn't really matter to me as much due to weed smoke not being that harsh to begin with.

If you pack and roll your joints properly, with not air bubbles or anything like that, it should pull evenly no matter if you're rolling with tobacco, weed or both. Atleast, that's my experience.
 
This is an interesting topic.
I agree roaches are the way forward. But the UK needs some Phillies or Dutches, and needs to learn how to roll a proper blunt, I miss blunts so much when in the UK and tbh they are probs my favourite method of smoking. Them blunt wraps you can get in the shops here are pooey.
Funny cos everytime I go to the States (maine and boston), my american mates are stunned by my joint rolling. They are like 'holy shit dude, that things friggin sweet' lol. But back in London, I'm not anywhere near as good at billin zoots as some people I know.
 
Why do you Londoners feel the need to talk about weed in such a silly way? "Yeah blud, I'm just gonna bill a zoot of this peng draw, then we can bun it and get lean".
 
It's only the ones who don't know what they're talking about and smoke no-name weed from dodgy ghetto (read: most of East London) kids, in my experience.
 
i'm an american and i roll mine as close to a cig as possible with a card filter (ill normally use business cards). anything else wastes sooooooo much weed.

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a little j of some chemdog, a bowl of chemdog, and a stealth spliff for the gf (she lives on campus so i roll her spliffs when i give her nug)
 
Vader said:
Why do you Londoners feel the need to talk about weed in such a silly way? "Yeah blud, I'm just gonna bill a zoot of this peng draw, then we can bun it and get lean".
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its called slang mate. step off your hi horse. weed is talked about differently everywhere. have you ever even spoken to a rastafarian about smokin weed? practically can't understand them, but no ones really cares cos its just a laugh no need to get all critical about it. jheeze.

And pwnx, you don't even kno me, don't just make assumptions about me. I ain't a kid, im not from 'some dodgy ghetto' and I do know what im talking about. fucking rude to make such a snobby generalization.

make one comment on this thread and slammed to fuck for sayin 'bill a zoot'. Some ppl clearly need to take a hit from the bong.
 
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^I was only pulling your leg you soppy cunt, try not to take the internet too seriously.
 
I roll the paper first then fill wit weed from the top, takes a bit longer but they get extremly well done everytime..
 
Fill it, roll it, tuck it, lick it, ______, profit?


But really though, bill a zoot isn't that bad. In nor cal the stupidest slang would probably be something like "yo broski, wanna blaze some hella dank chron?" or some such nonsense. Its all just fun and games, and in the end we're all smoking the same plant.
 
StickyChron said:
But really though, bill a zoot isn't that bad. In nor cal the stupidest slang would probably be something like "yo broski, wanna blaze some hella dank chron?" or some such nonsense. Its all just fun and games, and in the end we're all smoking the same plant.
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exactly. who cares man, as long as we can all smoke it, it doesn matter what its called. its just a laugh.

Btw I just looked up the prices of phillies in the UK and its crazy expensive. cant wait to get stateside in august and roll some fat ass blunts!
 
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Swishers were the shit, then they started sucking. Optimo blunts are okay. Phillies are meh, but White Owls? Oh baby. They're always fresh, and always delicious. They have white grape flavored ones where the wraps are light green, pretty cool. Haha.
 
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