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Jan 6 Attack on the Capitol and the aftermath

right. i think this is an example of an issue where bluelighters, across the entire political spectrum, can find common ground and agree.

alasdair
 
AlsoTapered said:
www.forbes.com

Will Trump Go To Trial In Jan. 6 Case Before Election? What To Expect After Supreme Court Takes Up Case.

The Supreme Court will hold oral arguments in April to determine whether Trump can be immune from criminal charges.
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Evidently a lot of people are prepared to vote for someone who is found guilty of Federal charges. Sedition, one would think, would be one of the few crimes that clearly underlines the fact that someone has attempted to undermine the democratic process.

Voting for someone who is trying to end voting...
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^that. I really was hoping they would peel him off the ballot. Would have been an easy call for me if I was in the supreme court (and theres plenty good reasons im not, i dont think this is one)

Im speechless, his delays continue, his support seems to remain. I can't talk to trump people IRL.....sigh.
 
and in more "every gop accusation is actually a confession" news: Georgia GOP Official Who Whined About Stolen Election Voted Illegally Nine Times

"A judge ruled on Wednesday that the first vice chairman of Georgia’s Republican Party, who’d made public claims about widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election, voted illegally nine times.

Brian K. Pritchard, who hosts a conservative talk show, was accused of illegally voting in Georgia while on probation after pleading guilty to felony check forgery in Pennsylvania in 1996.

Pritchard claimed that he believed his probation had already ended when he registered to vote in Georgia, but Senior District Attorney General Russell Willard argued that was not true.

“When he came to Georgia, he was aware that he was registering to vote illegally. He knew when he went in all nine times and signed that voter certificate, he was voting illegally,” he said last February."

there just are not enough facepalms.

alasdair
 
Wowww 9 times! Damn I actually got sent two ballads? (w/e lo) in the last election cycle but I figured with my luck if I vote twice ill be prosecuted. Than sure enough they started with the MI cheated in the election nonsense and I was real glad I didnt as the last thing we need is my second vote for biden to grind the whole system to a hault and give those uffers anything real on election fraud.

It is frustrating to live in the states, but I better shut up and just vote because it looks like dictator trump is ahead in most polls and he couldn't shake his voterbase with anything. This homie selling shoes and pillows and all kinds of silly shit. Stealin the bust of abraham lincoln, forreal? Because why; you two are so alike....or because you hate him for ending slavery; or god knows why (it was a convenient grab?)
 
Amazes me how the right still believes the election was stolen and that the left routinely gets fraudulent votes to win.... but literally every single example of voter fraud in the last 8 years has been from republican voters.


Last 10 years of politics in this country has been a bunch of children running around, covering their ears with their hands and saying " Lalalalalalalala, I can't hear you! I know you are but what am I?"

youare GIF
 
nepalnt21 said:
true, but honestly the right to vote should never be taken from those caught up in the justice system and especially those that have completed their "debt to society"
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That's the whole reason the "war on drugs" was started. Nixon wanted to criminalize his political opponents so they wouldn't be able to vote, among other things. Nixon's chief of staff blatantly admitted it years later in a taped interview.

“You want to know what this was really all about?” he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect.

“The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

- John Ehrlichman
 
Snafu in the Void said:
That's the whole reason the "war on drugs" was started. Nixon wanted to criminalize his political opponents so they wouldn't be able to vote, among other things. Nixon's chief of staff blatantly admitted it years later in a taped interview.

“You want to know what this was really all about?” he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect.

“The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

- John Ehrlichman
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This
 
alasdairm said:
and in more "every gop accusation is actually a confession" news: Georgia GOP Official Who Whined About Stolen Election Voted Illegally Nine Times
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Ha! Thanks for this. While R's sometimes fk up I don't hear it as much in my ususal circles (hence ensuring I come to some left sided discussions to hear the other side). I've always heard it is Dems projecting what they are doing, with plenty of examples provided in those right leaning discussions. But thank you, keeps some balance.

Snafu in the Void said:
Amazes me how the right still believes the election was stolen and that the left routinely gets fraudulent votes to win.... but literally every single example of voter fraud in the last 8 years has been from republican voters.
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Do we have another thread about voting or stolen elections? I'm betting we do. I'll have to find it.

Snafu in the Void said:
“The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
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Never heard this, but it makes sense. Also a 'thank you' for sharing it (because I hadn't heard it). Does anyone see the parallels to that statement with the current DOJ releasing/ignoring repeat offenders (legal citizens or illegal immigrants) and the DOJ going after PTO parents, right to life protestors, and Catholics? Anyone see how any of this fits to the current thread? (I don't).
 
i've been listening to the trump immunity hearing in front of the u.s. supreme court all morning. it's very interesting.

people will draw their own conclusions but it's mind-boggling to hear trump's lawyers argue that trump organizing slates of false electors to fraudulently sign certificates saying they are legally-elected electors could be considered an official act of his presidency for which he should be immune from criminal prosecution. or that ordering the military to assassinate a domestic political opponent likewise could be considered an official act of his presidency for which he should be immune.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
i've been listening to the trump immunity hearing in front of the u.s. supreme court all morning. it's very interesting.

people will draw their own conclusions but it's mind-boggling to hear trump's lawyers argue that trump organizing slates of false electors to fraudulently sign certificates saying they are legally-elected electors could be considered an official act of his presidency for which he should be immune from criminal prosecution. or that ordering the military to assassinate a domestic political opponent likewise could be considered an official act of his presidency for which he should be immune.

alasdair
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Nice! Yeah let's have a war! Let's have a wide scale war! I want to see bodies of dead Ukrainian and Palestinian children. You happen to have the same political persuasion as Victoria Nuland!

Rock on! Death! Let's do this! Yeah!

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They should aim for children! Orange man bad!

But at least we're not racist! Biden got 80 million votes! To question that is high treason! You and me, Alasdair my boy, we hold the correct political views so everyone just better watch out! We're so honest that we shouldn't do a vote recount! Forget the Keating Five. Forget Lucky Larry! Didn't you hear me, Orange man bad! Forget White Water.

Russians are racist, therefore we must bomb them! Aim for their children! In a closed society where everyone's guilty, the only true crime is getting caught.
 
well, not sure what most of your post is about but it's mostly off-topic imo.

perhaps you'd care to comment on the actual subject matter of the thread?

gordonliddy said:
Orange man bad!
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he's not bad. he's absolutely fucking awful.

but this isn't about trump. it's about the office of the president, regardless of who sits in the oval office and which party they represent.

do you believe that the president should be above the law and be immune from criminal prosecution?

alasdair
 
That's the problem with this country. We have been manipulated and pitted against each other.

It is seemingly more important to piss off your political enemies than it is to do anything remotely productive or beneficial for the people.

Everyone is forced into this hypnotistic delusion where the people down the street are your enemies and not the politicians.

Politicians convince you the whole government is a swamp, but just replace it with their own swamp.

Hundreds of millions of people are lied to daily.

The average American is smothered under the blanket of manipulation. Dust in their mind, sand in their ears. Psychological death.
 
False electors are only illegal in a few states. I thought none of them used by Trump but it's suspiciously hard to research. No search engine is cooperating.
 
gordonliddy said:
Yeah, it's funny that like 70% of the country can't seem to deal with the possibility that this was a lawful protest with limited false flag agitation by a mafia infiltration group inside of the FBI, potentially led at some points by Nancy Pelosi or whomever it is that she actually seems to report to.

The word for those types of people is NPC.

Funny thing about NPC's? They're unable to contextualize the fact that they're NPC. They can accept that they make mistakes. They can accept that they frequently make humiliating mistakes. But you cannot persuade the sheep that they are in fact sheep and that this precludes them from having a meaningful and positive influence on politics, for example. And on and on they go!



I'd add to that, and I plan to do a significantly longer write up at some point, but a large swathe of Americans seem to be political-pundit media addicts or social media addicts to an extent that they're ignoring the option to "agree to disagree" with their neighbors. Doesn't reason suggest that most arguments or potential arguments will go unsettled? If this is correct then constant bickering will end up being counterproductive.
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Left-‘wing nuts’ are so brain broken by the orange man, they can’t see the forest for the trees. They have to create new legal theory, make new crimes, and new legal precedent to take down the guy that’s supposedly a major criminal.
I am honestly happy to see those on the left freaking out and worrying about their opposition doing lawfare to reciprocate. At least that would make this shit real/organic. I’m thinking it’s ultimately all Jewish theatre. Anyone voting in 2024 is either unable to pay attention due to having a family, or are not very sharp.
 
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