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Is there anything more addictive than heroin?

Effuzion said:
If heroin is the most addictive thing for you (like it was for me) consider yourself lucky. Alcoholics, crackheads, meth heads, gamblers all get wayyyyy more fucked up from their addictions. With heroin you get over the sickness and PAWS and then you feel better than you did before the drugs. Coke and meth change people, alcoholics get that brain damage and gamblers go in serious debt.
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I have not had a bet in nearly 5 years & it is still a struggle. Two years without a bet & I still craved the dopamine/serotonin release & constantly thought about it. Drugs fucked my life up but gambling destroyed it completely. I don't know anyone who killed themselves over heroin (suicide not accidental OD) but unfortunately I know a number of people who necked up through gambling.


mr.scagnattie said:
Imagine being able to just walk down the block and buy your drug of choice in a store.. Liquor stores on every corner, people drinking in restaurants, TV shows showing social drinking.. It's got to be fucking hard to stay sober in this world as an alcoholic.
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That is how it is in Australia with gambling & drinking. I have 10 gambling venues within a 10 minute walk from my place. As any Aussie knows it is constantly in your face through the media etc. I still struggle to watch football because every few minutes there is an update on the odds for every bet imaginable.

I have never met a gambling addict who has been able to maintain a normal life & business for any reasonable period of time. It just does not happen but I have seen a number of very successful people throw everything away gambling.

In no way am I minimising anyones addiction as I believe each persons battle with addiction is very very personal. I can only offer what I have experienced & seen first hand. That said I know a number of multi addiction people & they all are of the opinion that gambling is the worst because you can hide it well for a long time & the financial damage can be catastrophic to say the least.
 
IV meth, IV cocaine, and IV heroin all seem to be the Apex of human understanding... it's just a matter of your drug of choice. The only thing that I can imagine being more addictive than heroin would be really cheap heroin.
 
mr.scagnattie said:
IV coke is pretty brutal yes. Though in my personal experience... shooting coke and shooting dope was always tied together. I really couldn't do one without the other... so in that instance, they both make each others respective addiction much worse.
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Indeed. I was perfectly content with just opiates. But as soon as i mixed the two opiates alone weren't enough, and coke alone was a horrible comedown. Thats when things really get bad fast.
 
Yeah.. I felt that my heroin addiction was bad enough.. However, once I introduced IV cocaine into the mix, specifically speedballs.. My addiction just turned into a two headed dragon of shit. That crap changed my life for sure, way beyond just what its like being strung out on H alone.
 
Here's the real list of withdrawal/addiction

#1 alcohol
#2 benzos
#3 meth (wouldn't know)
#4 methadone, fentanyl, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, tar heroin
#5 coke
#6 tobacco
#7 caffeine
 
Swimmingdancer said:
According to who??

Also there is a difference between addiction and severity of withdrawal.
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According to me, guess I should've included IMHO or IME or something. I mean i don't really think you can state factually that any one addiction is definitely worse, it really all varies person to person, just all experience/preference. At least that's what I think, and I guess sort of stupidly assumed was the consensus here

And I'd say there is a strong correlation between severity of withdrawal and severity of addiction, not that they're 100% directly connected, and again this is all IME/IMHO
 
I think that everyone who has already posted before me has just about covered all of the points I wanted to make, but, *sigh* ... I''m just not convinced that heroin is the most ultimate. uncontested and unimaginably addictive drug the world has ever known. I'd imagine that it would depend upon a number of many different factors not altogether dependent upon the drug itself but also the user as well. I would also imagine that drugs like crack and meth would give heroin a run for its money...
 
n2n said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine

I believe that this makes heroin look like childs play. Im not sure if its more addictive per say but I know that it is far more destructive
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It's just the way that they make it that makes it destructive to the body. It used to be available by prescription in Switzerland but is cooked up by people in Russia now since the precursors are readily available, and it's easier to get than heroin. The high from heroin is still superior to it, and people only use it as a last resort.
 
Depends on personal preference in my opinion. Some people like being heroin junkies and some people like being a meth tweaker. I personally prefer both, but I've had my fun with them. For now, tobacco is my poison. Which is the cause of the highest mortality rate in the US when it comes to drug-related topics.
 
Crack Coaine, Cocaine IV I would say is the most addictive. Maybe IV Methamp/Mephedrone/MDPV. But addiction in this sense is I WANT more Thing with Heroin it leads people in QUICK no comedowns just addction. Alot of people speedball and wind up dependent on the opi. GBL, benzos, alcohol are very addictive and withdrawal is bad - I was hooked on G for ages.

More addictive than H? FENT is I hear it's the crack cocaine of opis :D
 
^methadone IV.... Good god I imagine those kicks could make a brick wall cry. That might take the cake for popular opiates.
 
Ive been IV chipping heroin for over a year now and hands down masturbating is much more addictive. Im serious but i think i have a high sex drive and because all you gotta do is reach down and tug and it provides no side effects and its free :P
 
My downfall was shooting coke.. now I need dope and coke together or i dont want anythign at all
 
Swain said:
My downfall was shooting coke.. now I need dope and coke together or i dont want anythign at all
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Yeah I think a lot of us can relate to that. IV coke definitely changed my addiction and there was a period of a couple years when I was heavily into it.. I didn't even want to bother with H if I didn't also have coke to mix in.. I would sit around dope sick, refusing to shoot up and get well, because I couldn't get my coke yet.

Sick shit.
 
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