I'll share but first
@Dezi Daddy What is your experience with empathogens?
I also think using it too much, from experience causes the feeling to be "too familiar" .
If you don't have mental discipline, delayed gratification it's unsafe for you.
From someone who abused it about thirty times in eight months , that's about once every week on paper ,lost the magic, took a four month break, nada, waited two months then nada, explored it again, I would feel something but I simply abused it too much and fried whatever receptors.
I then took a thirteen year break. In general, yes it's far too much.
After about twenty to twenty five nights of rolling( I was twenty years old) I would get depressed rolling with my friends bc the ecstacy pills didn't work like they used to. The rolling feeling was maybe a five on a one to ten scale. The first two times were 10s and nines.
Finally I said it's not worth it and took a thirteen year break.
I'd say the abuse caused cognitive abilities to lessen .
. Even once every 3-4 months caught up with me after a couple years of doing this with empathogens, where has to take a full year break.
After the thirteen year back got the rolling feeling " magic" back. Used empathogens once every three months rule, for two years, this was using 5 mapbs ( which mg per mg is world's stronger than mdma, is say 2xs) , and 6 apb , then had a severe emotionally super difficult time.
Since then no more than twice a year. Some people have done it back to back nights, two times in a year. I've done it two weeks apart in 2017, was fine, then finally had an emotional breakdown. Crying. Sad.
I think it depends. It's better safe than sorry. I've been through severe emotional comedowns too many times to count.
Even on 100 mgs mdma , which if you haven't abused it, and haven't used in over a year, I rolled very hard on 100 mgs ,the magic feels amazing then after two or three days it fades, almost feels fake, and didnt feel so good, so used some special k to help with the comedown the next couple days, then did lsd the next weekend.
Btw the above isn't recommended or typical for me, just something I did . Lsd was super emotional, as I had a cat pass and he was sick and I cried so hard on 90 mcg lsd
The best thing you can do it get to sleep afterwards and sleep a full eight hour sleep
If you only do the same drug, which I used to, empathogens, it works on one area of the brain.
I used to would only roll with people whether it be friend, or a girlfriend at the time. Now I can do it alone , I still like to at least go where people are , and pay for a massage as on an empathogen seems to amplify things, even coming down it helps a lot
It's far better to solo experience lsd, mdma, then ketamine, then shrooms, rotating them, this way the mdma or empathogens come out to one , two times a year or even zero times a year.
I'm guessing most here are forty years old or younger despite not knowing to not do the same compound repeated . I didn't know better at one time.
And no not really a fan or combining compounds, although have heard special k is amplified on mdma and would like to maybe try a smaller dose, or ghb for sleep. Sucks ghb isn't sold legally the market anymore bc some bad apples ruined it for responsible people .
