Is once a month too much?

[GanjaPadre/Pharmacologist]

MAPB interests me. Just never came across it.
I also have no problem sleeping on it.

I am confused. . .
You said you have never tried it.
Then you said you can also sleep on it.

So. . . You have tried it and slept a few hours. . .
Or you have never tried it?

 

[GanjaPadre/Pharmacologist]

MAPB interests me. Just never came across it.
I also have no problem sleeping on it.

All MDMA is an amphetamine salt. Most of the time when I test a pill or "Molly", the Meth line on the test glows while the MDMA mark barely changes color. .

Did you mean you have no problem sleeping after taking MDMA?
*If so. . . You're lucky. I always see the sunrise on MDMA. On 5MAP I wake up foggy but at least I can get a few houra of rest before sunrise.
Are you in the US?

 

[4DQSAR]

Again. . . What amount one is taking is very important when judging a safe rime for abstinence.

Agreed. He was writing long, long before the APB series was patented and long before a certain braggart had to keep changing their story which began with:

'I invented APB'

to

'I was the first to sell ABP'

to the current

'Well, I was the first to ask the Chinese to find a cheap synthesis and call it Benzo Fury'.

Even half of that last part is a lie. There was a partner who LOVED the fact this person loved to brag. We ALL know the name of the good nocter, but the name of the partner who put in the money and came up with the marketing campaign... no idea.

But the same person is curiously quiet about Serotoni which was supposed to be their next 'Benzo Fury' but was quite disappointing.

But without instrumental analysis, it's always a 'mystery powder game' and I note at least two Chinese vendors are selling the totally legal ketone prescursor to the 6-APB series so I wouldn't be surprised if even people who make MDMA wouldn't spot the difference as the two are so similar thus who knows if even 'reliable' brands are unknowingly producing 6-MABP because whomever was providing the PMK spotted the Chinese offering a cheaper alternative. In bulk a mix of the two ketones would make it even harder to judge what is in there.

'The ways of commerce are exceedingly odd'
-P.G.Wodehouse

BTW Yes, 30 years ago there were MDMA 'recovery kits' being sold and boy, did we see how fast they sold at Kokopelli. Yet none of the staff bothered with them. The conclusion was that the hangover is what keeps down use. In short, I think they knew the kits made a person feel better BUT didn't seem to prevent the chronic damage. I quickly learnt that staff of a smart shop are quite like pharmacists. They get to see patterns among buyers. So someone who comes in twice a week to buy a 'recovery kit' would do so for a while... then go MIA.

 

[GanjaPadre/Pharmacologist]

I make my own recovery kits. I worked for Dance Safe and was on the team that developed KATY.
I never saw recovery kits for sale. I knew ravers who would push 5-HTP onto others the day after rolling.
I've made my own recovery items and wo any doubt do they help!
At Dance Safe we sold Marquis Test Kits but not anything for after a roll. Maybe they need to make some for people who toll often.

Also. . . i know 2 girls who took pressed X pills daily our senior year in 2000.
They are completely depressed and ome is fried. . . Meaning she can't even do simple math anymore.
It's sad and we all watched them roll for a year and worried but didn't know all of the true side effects back then.
Prayers to both for I haven't had contact w them for years.
I also know someone who is completely reliant on his parents, lives in their basement at 42 years of age, could never work due to being so out there from daily heavy Ketamine use.

The poor dude thought it was so cool to mix K into everything. . . Coke, Molly, Beer, etc. Now notv one of his old pald can even be around him because he rarely makes sense.

 

[ions]

I am confused. . .
You said you have never tried it.
Then you said you can also sleep on it.

So. . . You have tried it and slept a few hours. . .
Or you have never tried it?

I never tried MAPB.
I sleep on MDMA. Should've clarified. I was kind of rushing things earlier.

 

[GanjaPadre/Pharmacologist]

Lucky guy. I could never sleep on MDMA. I love how 5MAPB is almost identical wo the speed.
I wish I could post my online source for you but I always get warnings for giving out info on acquiring clean and pure 5MAP.
Good Luck getting some and if you're in the US just Google it.

 

[4DQSAR]

I never saw recovery kits for sale. I knew ravers who would push 5-HTP onto others the day after rolling.

Well, I can only report what I wintnessed. If I recall it was two capsules of 5-HTP and a couple of other tablets which I never even bothered to investigate much. I think one employee just sort of gestured towards them and say 'oh, it's multivitamins and some sort of herbal concotion'.

But every Saturday and Sunday dozens would be sold at 30 Guilders and when the Euro was adopted, 10 Euros.

It was dubious as no clear list of contents were provided. The majority of Kokopelli products never appear on-line because if the shops are in The Netherlands, they only need to consider Dutch law which is generally quite rational. But ads on-line and suddently other nations could take them to task.

When magic mushrooms (the most profitable line) were banned, they switched to truffles which Dutch law didn't cover. Now they are into 'microdosing' which is BRILLIANT because 40 'microdoses' is one dose - so they still supply but in fact make a bigger profit. I note they still grow mescaline-containing cactii and if someone want's to buy slices - fine.

And what the staff sold under-the-counter was EVERYTHING. But it made up for the minimum-wage they were paid so I suspect the owners knew (in fact I know they do) but that's the employee's problem, not their's. I say I know because I gave a mate some 5-MeO-DMT when it was legal and one of the four owners bought it off my friends, took the day off so friend had to work an extra 8 hours so boss could go home and get messed up.

 

[Goodwalt]

I remember several studies showing that serotonin receptors were damaged at the 8th month after a regular MDMA session, so tread with caution. Personally I would (like to) keep it at twice per year.