@Esperighanto Yes, you are right. Our street speed (amphetamine) is indeed in 999,999/1,000,000 cases bound with "sulfate" salt, but the drug "Elvanse," also called "Vyvanse," actually changed from sulfate to dimesylate. Most of our street amphetamine now uses dimesylate, since 3-4 years ago, meaning the change occurred in late 2020.
Here are some very basic pieces of information:
Sulfate:
- Chemical Composition: Sulfate is a salt or ester of sulfuric acid containing the anion SO₄²⁻.
- Usage: Sulfates are commonly used in various industries, including pharmaceuticals, detergents, and fertilizers. For example, dextroamphetamine sulfate is a common form of medication used to treat ADHD.
Dimesylate:
- Chemical Composition: Dimesylate is a salt formed from the reaction of a compound with two molecules of methanesulfonic acid (mesylate).
- Usage: Dimesylates are often used in modern pharmaceuticals to improve the solubility and stability of the active ingredient. For example, lisdexamfetamine dimesylate is a prodrug used to treat ADHD and binge eating disorder.
In summary, while both sulfate and dimesylate are used to form salts of active pharmaceutical ingredients, they differ in their chemical structure and specific applications. Sulfates are more commonly found in a variety of products, whereas dimesylates are specifically used to enhance the properties of certain medications. However, as I mentioned above, this fact has changed, and amphetamine with dimesylate salt has been discovered. The only reason I could imagine for this is the stability (especially for transportation), improved solubility (meaning it can be better absorbed than sulfate amphetamine), and the controlled release, meaning the effect would last longer.
I'm not a chemistry professor by any means, but binding dimesylate salt with normal amphetamine would require a lot of work and skill, as well as modern technology. It is way more expensive than the good old "amphetamine sulfate" way. As I said, that was incredibly rare. We only have access to 7 total records of this special amphetamine charge, and I never saw it with my own eyes. But the people who told me about it were actually teaching chemistry at my neighboring university, so I'm very, very sure they told the truth.
Another thing I wanted to tell you is that almost all RC drugs are always in HCL form because it's very cheap and very effective (body absorption). All benzodiazepines are always in HCL form, as well as cathinone analogues, such as 3,4-EtPV (3,4-dimethylene-α-Pyrrolidinovalerophenone), which is an MDPV analogue. Reports also said that it's a very strong stimulant. But again, many powdered substances that you can find will be in HCL form. There are exceptions like Phenibut FAA, which I greatly recommend because it's not as bitter and salty as the HCL form, and it's also healthier because HCL can be very toxic in high doses. Many started to vomit blood, so be careful there.
But back to Tianeptine, it's actually the only medication here in my country that uses sodium salt, which is believed to reduce absorption, making it harder to abuse. It's the same as our Tilidine products. Let me send you a photo.
I don't know if it's the same in the U.S., but you can see how many pharmaceutical brands exist over here, right? That's only a small portion of brands. However, you can see that every dose of tilidine is paired with naloxone, right? That is to ensure that you cannot overdose and abuse it too much. When you reach more than 300mg of tilidine (24mg of naloxone), the naloxone is triggered, and the rush is over.
For everyone who doesn't know: naloxone is a potent opioid receptor antagonist. It's often used to rescue people from opioid overdoses, especially from fentanyl in the U.S. Tilidine is an opioid that's only available here in my country and in 3-4 other smaller countries in Europe. Everywhere else, it's banned because of its massive abuse potential. It acts not only as a µ-opioid receptor agonist (MOR), but it is also a moderately strong dopamine reuptake inhibitor and a mild NMDA antagonist. The potency of tilidine is 1:5 (compared to morphine), meaning 30mg of morphine would be 6mg of tilidine. However, nortilidine, a major active metabolite of tilidine, is actually the drug that causes all those effects, meaning that tilidine itself doesn't have any psychoactive effects. Nortilidine has the same potency as morphine, meaning 1:1.
In my opinion, tilidine is the best opioid because of its heavy euphoria, caused by the major second effect (dopamine reuptake inhibitor), which makes it one of the most euphoric opioids that you can get. There are also forms of tilidine without naloxone, but those only exist in liquid form and can only be prescribed with a special prescription that can be faked.
In my country, there are two major types of prescriptions that you can get. There are also some others that make you pay less for a drug, but those aren't important:
Normal Prescription (colored pink):
- Drugs you get with it: tramadol (only pellets, not liquid), codeine (only with pamol, as a combination drug), tilidine (with naloxone), ibuprofen 600mg and 800mg, most benzodiazepines (diazepam, clonazepam, bromazepam, alprazolam, etc.), and basically every medication that isn't psychoactive.
These normal prescriptions can be faked and can be prescribed by any doctor who studied medicine. These are probably comparable with prescriptions in your country, but we also have a second form.
BTM (Betäubungsmittel) Prescription (colored yellow):
- There isn't a direct translation for BTM. When you ask Google, it says simply "drug." When translated 1:1, it would mean "numbing medium/means."
- Drugs you get with it: tramadol (all doses and sizes), morphine, tilidine (all doses and sizes), oxycodone, methylphenidate (Ritalin), dexamphetamine (Strattera), lisdexamfetamine (Elvanse/Vyvanse), special benzodiazepines (flunitrazepam and temazepam), etc. Basically everything.
The BTM Prescription is a special form of a prescription that can only be obtained by special doctors, such as psychologists. This means normal doctors (family doctors), where you would go when you are sick, don't have the right and allowance to hand out a BTM Prescription. They are also almost impossible to fake because when you want to "cash in" your BTM Prescription, they fully check every single detail on this prescription and check on their computer if this doctor exists, if they have the allowance, and also compare it with past signatures of the specialized doctors where they signed other BTM Prescriptions. Also, all of the BTM-required meds are stored in a big vault that always has the same quality and security as a bank vault (every drug store in Germany has these measures).
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