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heat kills alot of chemicals in things we ingest and take..So smoking would for sure ease the ride on her....Which brings up somthing I have been thinking..Why are all the people smoking saliva...When I search it was sucked on by the people who had visions....they would suck and chew the minty leaf and then have visions.....smoking it removes most of the kick I would believe..thats why these people are making money off 10x shit and all,,just suck on the leafs...right or no..?

Chicken
 
BlueMind said:
What's the point of doing a drug if you can't even remember what happened while under the influence ?

What a waste of time !

Why don't you eat a bunch of dramamine ?

Stupid stupid STUPID !
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From my own experences I can't remember much after using MDMA or K or many pharmies to be honest...but when it does come back to you....you can slowly remember the ride you had with lady Dartura....some remembered by you and pieces added by friends and such that helped you though it...its so inlightening...
The world will never look the same, you can say you have seen things in a way that most will never come close too...Sure there are the down sides too...without supervison you can end up running through the streets naked and such..end up in jail or dead ...but planning is the key to life...For the vision pay a price..you never think the same...she is always calling your name... You don't want to do it again, but what might you see this time you know...

Chicken...Be Safe Trip Hard
 
chickenbone said:
Why are all the people smoking saliva...When I search it was sucked on by the people who had visions....they would suck and chew the minty leaf and then have visions.....smoking it removes most of the kick I would believe..thats why these people are making money off 10x shit and all,,just suck on the leafs...right or no..?
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Uhm, no... smoke 200mg of 10x extract and you tell me it has no kick. "Quiding" salvia requires up to an ounce of bulk plant material and is no where near as intense, not to mention it costs a lot more.

What the hell are you talking about??? Only a few select psychoactives break down from heat (psilocybin/psilocin)... but certainly not salv A. Smoking a chemical provides for the most intese and direct ROA besides IV.
 
No need to get into an uproar.....I was guessing that sence some are depleated by heat saliva might be as well..I for one am not a saliva user,, therefore do not know...but right infront of me is a study that says that the saliva was rolled tightly, then chewed on...which in turn altered the state of the person...thats what was done with it before people started extracting it and crap like that...nothing is ever good enough...now is so close to being illegal its not even funny....

Chicken
 
chickenbone said:
right infront of me is a study that says that the saliva was rolled tightly, then chewed on...which in turn altered the state of the person...thats what was done with it before people started extracting it and crap like that
Chicken [/B]
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yea thats what i said, thats called "quiding" it. It works yea but you need up to an ounce of plant material and it isn't as intense (though easier to integrate some think). Thats how the original natives took the drug since they knew nothing of drying the plant and smoking it.

and if that study suggests in anyway that quiding salvia is more intense than smoking its wrong. extracts aren't in anyway a rip off like you speculated. They're very effective and anything over 10x is insane in my opinion. Blows the leaf or quidding out of the water.
 
I know that smeking the extract is much stronger...but I am saying that is what is makeing it illegal. The fact that people are getting too fucked up on it...no body is every happy with the normal thing , they have to cook it down or extract it. If we left things alone there would be alot less things made illegal..

Chicken..thats all I was saying...Sorry for the confusion...
 
bbbccc said:
A lot of the trip does come back to you eventually, just maybe not the next day. At any rate, you certainly dont forget everything. And i think its more than worth noting that you often dont remember nights on alcohol, E, acid, pretty much any substance. Its just like any other drug, you'll remember something you'll forget others. Some things might come baqck to you the next week, or when your reminded by a friend etc. But don't post stupid comments like this without actually thinking about it. Cause like i said, that happens with anything. ALso, i often don't remeber my dreams, but that doesn't mean i dont like dreaming, I love it. Plus, sometimes i do remember them well, thats a bonus !
Its all about living for the moment not the memories. THe past and future are irrelevant.
Please don't use words like *stupid* in reference to peoples choice in substance use. THis site is about anything but abusing people who use drugs. Please refrain from such comments. If you dont like it. dont take it, dont talk about it, dont fucken PREACH !
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This is what happened to my friend. It took about 2 months for him to remember and understand his trip. He told me what happened in his trip. In his trip, he went to a hell like place. On earth theres people who beleive there is an afterlife you goto once you die. And then theres people who beleive once you die, theres nothing but a lost of consciousness for eternity. In his trip, all the people in this hell like places looked like zombies. They still had there human like body forms but looked like they had been dead. He though, still looked like he was completely alive and in his trip, he had somehow been transported there. When he was there, all the poeple there who had died thought that once they died, there was nothing and when they died, they ended up in this hell like place. And there was endless and endless amount of these dead people. They would all run up to my friend, asking him whats happening to them, why am I here, how can i get out of here, help me, and all the zombie like people would just run upto him and ask him questions. Alot of the zombies were crying and asking about family members and loved ones. My friend while in this hell like place had some kind of protective barrier around him and the zombies could only get so close. But it completely freaked the fuck out of my friend. It was pure hell the whole time he tripped. And when your tripping on datura, you dont know your tripping. Datura will overpower anyone who takes it, reguardless of how much drug experience taking you have. And if your stupid enough to take it, make sure you have at least 2 sober sitters with you because that night, it took me and 2 other friend to keep 4 of our friends tripping on datura in check and make sure they didnt do anything to harm themselves. It freaked me out just watching someone that fucked up. Watching another friend roll and pass you imaginary blunts and then your other friend slamming imaginary domino's on the bed and thinking hes kicking some imaginary persons ass. You get the point though, Datura is nothing to be taken lightly. Its a poison, and should be treated like one.
 
Man, you guys got some serious balls. Shit i have a tough time accurately dosing my shrooms.... and alcohol. good luck. be safe.
 
Its a funny thing datura. It is by FAR scarrier to watch someone under the influence than it is to be under the influence yourself. Simply because like it is said above, when your tripping on datura you seldom remember your tripping. So your not really worried that you've od'd or some shit cause everythings "normal". Its not like when people take to much acid/shrooms and start freaking out because they think they're dying. You simply dont realise how fucked you are till the next day. The only way it would be scary would be if you were tripping about fucked shit. Like if you were imaging people running after you with axes, you'd be scared just like you would be if people were running after you with axes in real life. But the drug itself never really worries you. So in some respects it takes a bigger conscious effort to remain calm on acid or shrooms than it does on datura. Having said that, the day after when you figure just how out of it you were you may feel a bit scared or bewilded or something. But yeah, back to the point, watching people trip on datura is freaky. You pretty much can't communicate with them at all, and they're acting unbelievably strange. I watched myself once after i had video taped an experience and it turned me off datura for about a year > crazy stuff !
 
Today I decided to smoke a joint filled with crushed seeds (dried over 1 year) mixed with tobacco.

Burned nicely, I was a bit nervous about trying this. I took about 5 drags, when I reached 5 something in my head told me to stop.

Took about 5 mins. before I started to feel 'different' my ears seemed to haev a pressure build-up making everything seem soft and hazey. Eyes were not dialated rather slightly pinned from some opiate medicine earlier.

I think I reashed threshold effects everything seems dreamy for lack of a better description. Face felt hot.

Overall nuttin to special, I would be afraid to eat or smoke more
 
blahblahblah said:
Today I decided to smoke a joint filled with crushed seeds (dried over 1 year) mixed with tobacco.

Burned nicely, I was a bit nervous about trying this. I took about 5 drags, when I reached 5 something in my head told me to stop.

Took about 5 mins. before I started to feel 'different' my ears seemed to haev a pressure build-up making everything seem soft and hazey. Eyes were not dialated rather slightly pinned from some opiate medicine earlier.

I think I reashed threshold effects everything seems dreamy for lack of a better description. Face felt hot.

Overall nuttin to special, I would be afraid to eat or smoke more
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Yeah, a real small amount smoked or otherwise ingested will give thresh-hold *dreamy* effects. Good for working with hypnozization(spelling bad). And you'll get the same thresh-hold effects off a much larger amount, but at some point you cross a line and your in a whole new world (of dreams). Its strange, a real small dose and a much larger will cause the same effects right until you finaly rech the point where the *crazy* effects take hold.
 
I've never known a person to take detura and not regret it. I've taken it. I and several others worked ourselves up slowly, over a period of several days, to the point of real potency. It is true that all the seed pods have different potencies. Others ate from the same patch a year later and nearly died from a far smaller amount than I ingested.

Personally, I could not see clearly for a week after. That should signal a serious problem!! I've watched others on it. They have a look on their face like they are being torchured. They cry, they rip their cloths off becuase they are so gaddamn hot. Then they puke all over each other. Then they itch so bad that they scratch their legs til they bleed. It's horrible.

It is not exotic, erotic, trippy, or enlightening. It is sick, depraved, useless, and dangerous.

You would have a much more enjoyable trip on dramamine. No shit!
 
i was at my friend's house while he was on datura and his grandmother stopped by. she knocked on the door and i tried to lock my friend in the room so i could go answer the door and he kicked me in the chest, ran to the door opened it and punched his grandma in the face.
 
phucifer said:
i was at my friend's house while he was on datura and his grandmother stopped by. she knocked on the door and i tried to lock my friend in the room so i could go answer the door and he kicked me in the chest, ran to the door opened it and punched his grandma in the face.
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it makes you violent?
 
Jah People said:
Jim Morrison of The doors did datura and he said it was the strongest thing he had ever done, keep in mind thats from a guy who would do up to 1000mg of acid.
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A GRAM OF LSD

hoffman style. are you sure morrison ever did that much??
 
That True Jah

^

I think I read in 'No One Here Gets Out Alive'
it was about 10,000ug before a concert on night.

UnS
 
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