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If God Doesn't exist

^ "our true origin"? is evolution that disappointing? are amazing things less awesome when the creator was nature?

i don't know what happens, but i'm actually really content if my purpose was to procreate, further human evolution and finally, fertilize the Earth. i think providing you live a positive life with the intention of impacting other's around you positively, the present isn't as futile as you might think.
 
^yeah you're right. I was just trying to answer his question more simply than how everyone else was with "well God can mean many things" argument
 
(@EyesSizeOfTheMoon) i wasn't trying to challenge you; i was genuinely interested in your perspective. :)
 
Due to the attributes commonly assigned to God, it is logically necessary that science cannot generate hypotheses which could adjudicate whether god exists.

However, scientists can begin with the theoretical assumption that God (narrowly construed) does not exist and see how long it remains untouched by evidence when searched for. B)

ebola
 
It wouldnt be any different to if it was proved that god did exist. Some would believe, others wont.
 
I welcome any further scientific description of reality. Why would I be anything but thrilled to expand my knowledge of the universe in which we live?

The more I learn, the more mysterious it all becomes.

Roger&Me once said something here that resonated with me. "The universe is clearly screaming the answer to something. But to paraphrase Douglas Adams, 'What was the question?'"



The problem with proving or disproving "God" is that we don't have a concrete definition for "God". How can you disprove something if you don't know what it is? That's a childish game.
 
I don't get why no ones questions the OP's question "If they prove some how, scientifically without a shadow of a doubt that there is no higher power, the earth's creation was definitely spontaneous, same with the creation of life how will you feel?" Because for me, 'spontaneous creation of this planet and all life on it' sounds like a pretty convincing argument for there being a higher power (aka god).

anyway, to not derail anything, even with a big bang (or multi-aeonic big bang) theory there should be a definable point where no further definition can be obtained, and if we reached that point of understanding it in my lifetime i'd be over the moon with joy. be it bizarre enough to rationally consider the work of a greater system, or stupid enough to make all this meaningless, i life to think i'd want to know. (but then I say FREE JULIAN ASSANGE! and it's still early days so)
 
Faith is a funny thing-if you don't have it it cannot be explained or justified, if you do have it, it needs no explanation or justification-perhaps that's why there will NEVER be a convincing proof or disproof of God's existence, you cannot force belief- as the Prophet pointed out "la ijbar fi deen".
 
Pythagoras said:
Eric von Daniken (sp?) helped seed this idea as a persistent meme. One might even argue that the early passages of Genesis describe just such an event when the 'sons of God procreated with the daughters of men', as passage that has perplexed theologians for milennia, To the open minded such a possibility is as credible as the abrahamic interpretations of the relevant passages.
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I think Daniken is right on the money, but that's just my opinion.

"Let Us create man in Our own image?"
 
Though in a way it would be nice to know there wasn't a God. In the religion sense, he seems somewhat malevolent doesn't he? I mean, I don't understand why such a "powerful, omnipotent" being (knowing everything that would happen to us) would create humans and then have most of them punished for eternity. He knew that some people would not follow his word and turn the other way from him. The bible has many wise and noble writings with good morals but on the other hand it is very contradicting. I personally would not create a species of intelligent beings only to, knowingly, watch them burn in a pit of filth and flames because they didn't obey my selfish rules and regulations. What I would do is let the bad batch reincarnate until they fully understood the right path and become enlightened with knowledge, and the rest automatically come to my dimension.

I think that God saw how he/she/it truly was (from genesis where he created wo/man in his own image) with the combination of emotions and actions we humans use such as selfishness, hatred, jealousy, depression, etc and probably got angry that thats what his bad side is like so he punishes them or whatever 8)
Maybe I'm just blabbering now lmfao but overall on the other side of the argument, I wouldn't want to live with just a jealous and selfish being that allowed so many tragedies happen for millions of years.

Maybe it was to learn or gain something out of it? I don't know.
 
maybe god doesn't understand the concept of a multiverse, and somewhere out there is an awesome heaven world.
 
I would be crushed.

alasdairm said:
faith is belief in the absence of proof. by extension, it can also be belief in the face of proof to the contrary.

even if you could 'prove' that god doesn't exist, a person of faith would continue to believe. you can't convince somebody rationally if they didn't arrive at their position rationally.

alasdair
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I consider myself a person of faith but if I were confronted with the facts that God does not exist I would cease my belief in God. I think you can have a rational faith.
 
I think faith is unduly tied to the question of god's existance, the answer of which is only incidentally related to the great matter of us being here in the first place. It receives an undue amount of attention for the spiritual journiers out there.
 
God exists within me, and I exist within God. If God seized to exist, so would I.
 
Pothedd said:
My view of "God" is that all the energy that comprises the universe is God, it is Heaven, blah blah blah.
So if they proved "God" doesn't exist that would be, to me, synonymous with proving that the universe doesn't exist.

And at that time we wouldn't have to worry about it anymore, because we would cease to be...
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This.

EyesSizeOfTheMoon said:
Though in a way it would be nice to know there wasn't a God... I don't understand why such a "powerful, omnipotent" being (knowing everything that would happen to us) would create humans and then have most of them punished for eternity... I personally would not create a species of intelligent beings only to, knowingly, watch them burn in a pit of filth and flames because they didn't obey my selfish rules and regulations. What I would do is let the bad batch reincarnate until they fully understood the right path and become enlightened with knowledge, and the rest automatically come to my dimension.
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I don't want to come off in a mean way, but those are some pretty arrogant statements. How do you know "most humans" have been punished for eternity? You say "What I would do is let the bad batch reincarnate until they fully understood the right path and become enlightened with knowledge, and the rest automatically come to my dimension" yet how do you know that isn't whats happening right now? For all we know no one is in hell except satan himself and everyone is reincarnated until they get into heaven.

Some of you think the world would be better off if there were no God. I don't see how its a bad thing for someone to have faith. Faith does wonderful things itself, whether God is real or not. Even if God isn't real, he sure has helped me survive some very traumatic experiences. Having just faith itself gave me the strength and comfort to know I wasn't alone and could survive such a horrible thing, and that I would make it through it. So even if he isn't real, the idea of "God" still saved me. Without it, I might be dead. Nothing can ever disprove that.
 
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