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"I put shatter up my shitter" - your WORST drug mistake

F.U.B.A.R. said:
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Over the counter motion sickness medications such as 'Kwells' and 'Joyrides' contain Hyoscine hydrobromide (Hyoscine is just a chemist friendly name for scopolamine).

Several of these with a couple of spliffs may or may not get you very wasted.


Anyway, the following tale has not been proven beyond reasonable doubt, but me mates say it's true so that's good enough for me.

Three mates dried out a load of deadly nightshade leaves and proceeded to bong them one night.


They didn't think it was working until they experienced a shared hallucination of a line of milk bottles walking across the room and out through the back door.


Make of that what you will...


Edit: this was a response to @Skorpio and his musings on belladonna and Datura which seems to have disappeared now
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Riiighttt...

I don't think I'm gonna risk poisoning myself with deadly nightshade which is named that for a REASON anytime soon just to watch imaginary milk bottles go walkabout.
 
AutoTripper said:
56 grams of nutmeg is proper overkill too lol ftr.

I heard, 20 drops of the essential oil is the ticket. Minuses the negative undesirable effects.

Gives a good clean trip.

Not any old essential oils though. Young Living, Doterra, or Rocky Mountain.

Yoy want the purest for internal, and inhalation.
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Well, except for the fact that myristicin is an allylbenzene (3-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyallylbenzene). Allylbenzenes are carcinogens (epoxidation across the double bond, makes them irreversibly bond to nucleotide bases).
Probably safer all round to actually get a 'chemistry set' and make MMDA ( even with law enforcement frowning upon such things). That said MMDA is a fucking weird drug: actually sedating, but the brain movies are truely unique.
 
Bleaney said:
With 2 grams of etiz you could comfortably taper down from 25mg daily. I have been on similar doses and have done it. THe earlier stages are relatively easy - you can reduce by 1 mg every week or 2 and before you know it wou will have reduced your dose signifcantly. THe first few days of every reduction are a little more difficult than it would have been otherwise but Etiz is forgiving of tolerance and dependancy and it really is not too bad.

It's when you start getting back down near to the usual therapeutic doses and cutting further that it can start getting more difficult. May be good to look at switching to a longer acting Bz at that stage.

But 2000 doses of Etiz is more than enough to comfortably complete a gradual taper down from where you are at now, with plenty of spare left over.. Do the maths to prove it to yourself if needs be.
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Thanks, I really appreciate your post

And Yes on paper, in theory.

But in practise and event, I mean atm it really is still literally dangerous for me with so much nerve damage, sensitisation, anxiety and struggle for life no matter what still, to even attempt tapering.

I'm ploughing flat out to enable this road.

Because no options for longer half life benzos due to allergies.

It's not simply a mathematical thing is the point I'm trying to make I think, life needs to be sustainable and manageable through time because I'm using the benzos as as a vital coping mechanism for some really mega extreme conditions and endurances.


I haven't unwrapped the last 2 grams yet.

I'm treading water working as hard as I can to secure my future before it comes to that point because in my mind I feel that is the latest ideally I wish to be by actively addressing this.


So I do agree with you because in my mind if I was very well physically and comfortable now and was able to access the support I will definitely need which I'm too unwell to do currentlyly and many other situational factors weighing heavily against me here....


Then 2 g of powder should be sufficient for the task given opportunity and support.


I have a chance if I am so incredibly disciplined and focused now and extra extra clever about things from now on because I cannot get away with anything going wrong slightly, to greatly improve my all round well-being over the next 6 weeks and possibly sooner.

Soon as I need to open that 2 grams, I need to be ready, prepared and able in my mind.

I'm miles off that still. It's not just a copout but an extraordinary situation.


However, if I can find an assistant in life to help me make a BTC payment as I've no ID or crypto, I could probably acquire Bromazolam powder.

If they hadn't stopped taking bank transfers and card after Brexit, I wouldn't have this sweat now.

I could do without it. I need a lot of time and so much change.

Once I can actually sleep, begin to recover physically, and the root causes of torturous physical pain and sickness are corrected (there is every chance of this, just questioj of when. It could take a year, 3 months, or 1 month) then my dependance and need for all drugs drops lots, doors open.
 
Finally finished clearing my room out properly after living in a (mostly) drug induced squalor for far too long. Not sober by any means, but not doing the chaotic stuff I had been for a while. Underneath something on my table I found a rizla wrap with some brown/tan powder in, all in all looking exactly like how £10 bits of brown were sold in Bristol at the time (and still are for all I know).

I'm thinking like, "Nice one! I managed to be so messy and forgetful that I somehow managed to cancel out the junkie sixth sense for exactly how much opiates I own at any point". So go to the shop feeling chipper, get home, put some music on and get the foil out. Started smoking it, but it was running weird and sort of burning, but didn't think much of it so just smashed the rest. Then there was just a distinct lack of feeling high for a few minutes. I thought that maybe I wasn't vibing with it, or my receptors were acting up or whatever so just sat on my bed feeling disappointed.

Then, slowly, I thought I was seeing the odd acidy ripple or pattern on the wall. Then the more I tried to convince myself I was imagining it, the stronger it got. I was definitely tripping. I was full on in panic mode, and realised that I'd been incredibly dumb and actually smoked some random "mushroom extract"/2cb/rc psych powder that I must have bought at a festival, and (much more understandably) forgotten about.

Not exactly dangerous or anything, and tbh in the end after a benzo, a few beers and some DHC to smooth out the panic it was quite nice. But that first half-hour, with a surprise dose where you don't know what's happening coupled with the degen addict context, was dark as hell. Thought I was losing it, swiftly followed by being completely disgusted with myself (but like, in fractals and thought loops lol).
 
I once licked my finger and stuck it in a baggie of 3-meo-pcp. I was already high when I did it. I woke up two hours later at the hospital being told that I had seizures for two hours.
 
AutoTripper said:
Thanks mate, I appreciate that positive encouragement.

My options are so limited, needs so great too.

Real catch 22 permanent juggle.

I need to geniusly figure and plot a path on, unless I get enough reprieve in time.

It's taking a long time coming though and every resource has been exhausted.

The thing is, the path I am down by force, so limited by allergies, damaged by infections, no wiseman wouldn't discourage.

Wild daily prolonged benzo use, never a day off and insane amounts.

I can't take any prescription meds, no doctor could offer me benzos, Diazepam pills no good to me allergenically.


I have just over 2 grams Etizolam powder, not available anymore, and using 20 to 25 mg's daily.

If I started heavy tapering now it would be tight.

It's impossible yet. So much needs to swing my way quickly or some kind of miracle.

Because I'm on course to expire and be up a creek, normal folks go see a doctor, taper, access support etc.

Lyme, Covids, 99% allergy rate disables and prohibits those avenues.


But I'm so thick in battle securing survival, recovery after, it's like weather watching for storms on horizon.


So poppy seed tea I figured is a lesser evil than reckless benzo dependance, was part my thinking.


I don't really need psychedelics at all now anyway, Covid nerve damage has made even microdoses of LSD intolerable physically and I've had enough anyway.

My benzo intake has never interfered with my ability to experience LSD fully, rarely but I am a rare case defying a few laws lol.


I am just commencing a fresh course of homeopathy and god do I need it.

For long Covid, Nerve damage, ongoing hemorrhoids and now neuralgia in rectum and bladder too, from fresh Coxsackie virus.


The pain, sickness and now terror kills me.

However the prognosis is good! I patched up well recent months but such a toll.
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I just want to hop in and say that fucking with poppies really has only made my life more difficult in the long run.

I've never experienced life ruining addiction, but it just begins to take so much fortitude to maintain moderate use that for me I felt the only options were complete daily use or abstinence.

I don't feel that way about most other classes of drugs (other than nicotine to a lesser degree).
 
Skorpio said:
I just want to hop in and say that fucking with poppies really has only made my life more difficult in the long run.

I've never experienced life ruining addiction, but it just begins to take so much fortitude to maintain moderate use that for me I felt the only options were complete daily use or abstinence.

I don't feel that way about most other classes of drugs (other than nicotine to a lesser degree).
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Hi. Hope you are well tonight.

And thanks, I always value your words and ideas.

I am literally deathly allergic to Kratom, it would end me in a week or less, now.

I just survived and pulled up again after 4 weeks use 2019.

Kanna too, but less so by good bit.

I would probably be allergic to poppies??

If I can just make some swift progress health wise, the entire picture, outlook and possibilities could well swing in m6 favour.


So I must keep this as my focus now.
 
AutoTripper said:
Hi. Hope you are well tonight.

And thanks, I always value your words and ideas.

I am literally deathly allergic to Kratom, it would end me in a week or less, now.

I just survived and pulled up again after 4 weeks use 2019.

Kanna too, but less so by good bit.

I would probably be allergic to poppies??

If I can just make some swift progress health wise, the entire picture, outlook and possibilities could well swing in m6 favour.


So I must keep this as my focus now.
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I'm quite well, thanks for asking. Been having to miss work due to quarentining due to a certain communicable illness, but that's over for me and today I am getting some things started to get a head start in the week.

Still have enough of my Saturday for some hedonism.

I always question the proper tone to use when talking about opioids, because I feel people ignore harm reduction more when it is so dire, but I conversely feel strong about my experiences. Ive certainly ignored my fair share of good advice.

Hope youre doing well AT. Always charming to read your thoughts and experiences.
 
nomorebenzos said:
Good thing you didn't make that call lol

Cops get nervous when dealing with people on stimulants
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Yeah, last Fall I dosed two days in a row, turning my usual weekend warrior meth fun 🤩 into a nervous, parionoid Sunday where I called 911 three times and when the cops came the third time they took me to the hospital. I calmed down there after a few hours, but the embarrassment still haunts me. I now know 0.4 grams and I’m done for the weekend.
 
Opiate overdoses and too much alcohol/mdma days are over for me. But, aside from those typical overdoses which have their obvious consequences. Here’s some other anecdotals… from one fiend to another. Hindsight is always 2020.

Do not IV Benadryl.

Hit me like a ton of bricks and down goes Frazier. It wasn’t enjoyable like opiates are but it has that fentadope effect of blacking out immediately.

I didn’t do this for recreational purposes, I was just trying to kill a really severe migraine immediately. I immediately hit the wall after injecting, went straight backwards. SLUMPeD. Whoops

(It was properly diluted, but still do not try this at home this is serious, it’s not safe. Do not IV straight Benadryl.)

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I also mixed alcohol and phenergan (respiratory suppressant) and that was pretty uncomfy. Just couldn’t breathe. Who doesn’t love gasping for air while trying to fall asleep because you’re lit and simultaneously anxious that you’re ODing.

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And I also abused Dramamine and Mecklezine (OTC). My goal was to black out and go to sleep for as many hours as possible but, I was just a teenager so I just took whatever I found worked and was on hand. It just gave me really weird nightmares and sleep paralysis.

Trazadone is much more effective. I slept 16 hours. But I took way too much of that, and wound up in the hospital because one of my actual internal organs stopped functioning.

This is the less romanticized side of drug use, the significantly not fun side, the very very stupid side. It is shameful and cringe to look back on for me but I am in recovery now, clean and drug free now.

Oh yeah and edibles are fun, on their own, you don’t need to mix it with mdma and whiskey or hallucinogenics to make it more fun. Just, enjoy the pot on its own, it’ll be fine. I was trying to get way more f’d up than a pot brownie could provide by using multiple things at once and it was honestly stupid.

Edibles. I thought “oh, I don’t feel anything, might eat more.” I still didn’t feel anything, so I ate MORE. Do not… do that. Lol three edibles is not necessary, I could not remember how to walk or comprehend sentences.

If you are smoking weed with a crack head, it’s not weed. Had an amazing experience but, that was crack. It has quite an effect on anyone with an addiction issue to begin with or anything of that sort. So, don’t recommend doing crack.

If someone offers you super special dipping sauce with your edibles that is likely going to send you into outer space, have fun hallucinating for the next 12 hours.
 
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Smoking cannabis regularly, stopping and then drinking a bottle of Jack Daniels. BOOM! Downward spiral into psychosis. Wind up in the hospital locked in the laundry shoot room clutching the floor, thoughts fully fucked. I basically thought the laundry shoot door was God or something.
 
blxnc said:
Edibles. I thought “oh, I don’t feel anything, might eat more.” I still didn’t feel anything, so I ate MORE. Do not… do that. Lol three edibles is not necessary, I could not remember how to walk or comprehend sentences.
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Yeeaahh that was my introduction to this stuff . Only I didn't have any idea what I was eating. I scoffed what turned out to be 2 xtra strength hash brownies in the space of 5 mins never having had any before. This was .... memorable. I got sick as all hell and hallucinated kinda giraffe - like neon blue creatures.
 
LiveInHD said:
Yeah, last Fall I dosed two days in a row, turning my usual weekend warrior meth fun 🤩 into a nervous, parionoid Sunday where I called 911 three times and when the cops came the third time they took me to the hospital. I calmed down there after a few hours, but the embarrassment still haunts me. I now know 0.4 grams and I’m done for the weekend.
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Don't be embarrassed man hospital staff see all kinds of fucked up people coming in to the ER via ambulance or cops
 
Hmm. Probably the first time I did mescaline. Did it by myself, I was about 17yo. Bought a thick, very healthy looking San Pedro about 35cm long. Now according to most info I had read, this was a 'dose'. However, I did *not* read that storing it in newspaper for several months in a dark drawer would potentiate the fuck out of it.

So anyway when I started tripping I went for a bike ride. It was about 7/8pm at night, and I lived on a dead end street. I was at the entry to it and it was a very steep hill about 300-400m long. Well I had a looooot of energy thanks to the mescaline and I decide I'm going to ride to the top of the hill as hard and as fast as I possibly could.

I'm pretty sure I would have eaten Lance Armstrong at his peak, I was flying up that hill. All fun and games until I stopped at the top and I can feel my heart beat in my face, my eyes, my entire body is vibrating. My heart rate was at least 250bpm. It was so fast it was almost a purr. I start to panic that my brain/heart is going to explode so I try to calm myself down and slowly cruise left and right down the hill, enjoying the cool night air.

Even after 2 minutes, I'm at the bottom by my driveway and my heart rate is still insane. I had to meditate and pull out all mental stops to chill out.

Needless to say I'm pretty sure if that hill was any longer I would have died, alone and in the cold in the middle of that street.
 
Atomic_Decay said:
I've had egotism since I was a toddler. I'd fucking hate to get ergotism though. That sounds really horrible.
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How did you get eurgotism as a toddler.

(Also mine wasn't that bad, a few toes went black at the end and I cut the black bits off. This is obviously not what I'd recommend other ppl do.)
 
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