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"I put shatter up my shitter" - your WORST drug mistake

F.U.B.A.R. said:
Top tip:

Over the counter motion sickness medications such as 'Kwells' and 'Joyrides' contain Hyoscine hydrobromide (Hyoscine is just a chemist friendly name for scopolamine).

Several of these with a couple of spliffs may or may not get you very wasted.


Anyway, the following tale has not been proven beyond reasonable doubt, but me mates say it's true so that's good enough for me.

Three mates dried out a load of deadly nightshade leaves and proceeded to bong them one night.


They didn't think it was working until they experienced a shared hallucination of a line of milk bottles walking across the room and out through the back door.


Make of that what you will...


Edit: this was a response to @Skorpio and his musings on belladonna and Datura which seems to have disappeared now
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56 grams of nutmeg is proper overkill too lol ftr.

I heard, 20 drops of the essential oil is the ticket. Minuses the negative undesirable effects.

Gives a good clean trip.

Not any old essential oils though. Young Living, Doterra, or Rocky Mountain.

Yoy want the purest for internal, and inhalation.
 
AutoTripper said:
56 grams of nutmeg is proper overkill too lol ftr.

I heard, 20 drops of the essential oil is the ticket. Minuses the negative undesirable effects.

Gives a good clean trip.
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Not any old essential oils though. Young Living, Doterra, or Rocky Mountain.

Yoy want the purest for internal, and inhalation.
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I'm just surprised I've got a liver left after that shit.

As they say, "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger".


Therefore, I must be fuckin immortal by now... :LOL:
 
Nas47 said:
In old days there are cigarettes"Antitab"made from belladona leaves.Used to cease smoking.People brew them on teaMost describe bad feelings-forgetvwhat shit they have been done.A true delirium.
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I would be right up for some belladonna! In purest form no cigs.

I never once have smoked tobacco by itself, nor ever a single puff on a cigiarette.

Can you believe that lol!

I have taken LSD by eye, arse though.

But I have my principles! :)
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
I'm just surprised I've got a liver left after that shit.

As they say, "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger".


Therefore, I must be fuckin immortal by now... :LOL:
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Exactly! And, bizzarely given a level of recovery, beit mental or physical, it seems to hold true.

So if I get to a place of comfort, security, energy, I will be a strong AF Mfcker, I started out strong, life is trying to kill me, I am hardwired to overcome it.


And it is actually firmly on my bucket list haha, might not apply here that, to achieve immortality without dieing in this life.

But I accept today, morrow could be my last day too.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
But you must have had tobacco in a spliff surely?
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Yes, this my point too.

I took an unusual path into drugs because I grew up in a true hippy house where I was engaging with middle-aged hippies really nice people proper pot heads and and everybody was a hashish head back then so it was all around me practically from birth but I never had any interest in using cannabis strangely.


Age 15 was the first time I ever officially stayed up all night long no sleep because older friends informed me about this thing called "trips".


We have had pathetic school fear mongering lessons on LSD and other drugs of course but suddenly I knew that I was going to be taking this thing which I I felt somehow I was born to do in One Sense and it wouldn't be long I was that excited.


I took LSD and ecstasy for one year from age 16 without ever touching cannabis despite it being not on my doorstep rather kitchen cupboard.



My mum always said to me "if you ever want to take drugs come and see me and I'll give you a bit of dope to eat" because eating hashish back then was such an incredible joy.


I went my own unusual way first then age 17 I dived right into to extraordinarily heavy cannabis use which I found to be a miraculous boon.

Reg 1.75 gram Hash edibles. Like....1300 mg's THC!

Often AT work too lol.


I mean that does qualify as very hard core cannabis use and I never got suspected or struggled to conduct myself.



My first week using cannabis I was at a really posh private school on a free education somehow and I smoked 3 huge pure hashish bucket bongs each morning before riding frantically to school totally totally stoned out of my mind it was wonderful lol.


I never used tobacco at all until 2000 when I Began smoking joints with tobacco but only ever used tobacco to smoke cannabis with and never once desired to smoke it for its own sake alone.


So I was a joint and bong chillum pipe vaporizer smoker until lyme made me allergic to smoke and especially tobacco even passively I can't go into a house where people have been smoking tobacco for even 10 seconds it's that extreme.

In 2005.

So I have to reason, not many if any people who lived through Western Poly drug culture acting out the absurdities I have myself regarding preposterous ecstasy and LSD usage for one and using cannabis socially 4 years with tobacco but never once actually smoking tobacco by itself.
 
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Nas47 said:
I put sometimes belladonna dried leaves in my joint when i collect a little bit in the mountain-throat is more dry and high from a weed is different.Not bad to inhale a little bit,but nor impressive.To take orally this stuff is another thing
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I really want to try poppy seed tea soon or the pods they say are better if I can get them because I need to switch things up basically and I think that that might be the avenue to go down this time.


I just don't know anything about that and have been too weary to think straight or make enquiry so far. Like, acquisition, right types etc.

Prep should be simp
 
AutoTripper said:
I really want to try poppy seed tea soon or the pods they say are better if I can get them because I need to switch things up basically and I think that that might be the avenue to go down this time.


I just don't know anything about that and have been too weary to think straight or make enquiry so far. Like, acquisition, right types etc.

Prep should be simp
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Poppy avenue is never a good road to go down mate. I don't know if you've travelled that path before, but if you haven't, then there are better routes to take.


Plus, it can permanently ruin psychedelics for you.


This is why I never trip anymore.
 
I still like psychedelics but it took me a long time to relearn!
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Poppy avenue is never a good road to go down mate. I don't know if you've travelled that path before, but if you haven't, then there are better routes to take.


Plus, it can permanently ruin psychedelics for you.


This is why I never trip anymore.
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negrogesic said:
but you'll have to wait for the novel. I actually do have an 80% completed novel that is literally titled, "Negrogesic", its a sort of Fear and Loathing meets Fight Club type take on my life. I'll let you guys know if i publish it (I very well may, although I'm working on publishing something else at moment).
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I would read that now. :) Totally looking forward to that publication! We should all pitch in to get that published. lol
 
AutoTripper said:
I really want to try poppy seed tea soon or the pods they say are better if I can get them because I need to switch things up basically and I think that that might be the avenue to go down this time.


I just don't know anything about that and have been too weary to think straight or make enquiry so far. Like, acquisition, right types etc.

Prep should be simp
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In the beginning ease pain and bring sleep,After a while-the opposite.That is quintessentia of being addict....and poppy is one of the symbols.Even tell this to friends,that wanna tried.It's very possible to do it one time,don't be to ok and stop till greater shits not coming up.....but very probably this could led you to bad addiction.Staybon the safe side brotha.And yes been hooked on opiesvpersonaly for me isn't fit with psychedelicks
 
One of the worst mistakes I’ve made was not even trying to get high I have chronic pain and a high opioid tolerance so I took 2 Opana 40mg in the morning everything was good at about 5pm the pain was back up to high levels so I took 2 more 40mg Opana all of this is by mouth right about 2 hours later I was on the phone and it felt like all of the Opanas met up with each other in my system and hit me hard I was like I am going to overdose and die.

I got off the phone because I was starting to have trouble concentrating on the conversation and I got into bed. It sounded like someone was banging pots and pans together in my head. It was so unpleasant and I kept nodding but not a euphoric nod at all it was terribly uncomfortable. I was out of it. To the point where I woke up and my two cats where pressed up against me because animals know when you are in distress which I was in distress at 2 am I woke up again and it had passed. Thank goodness!
I was still fucked up but no longer delirious and had learned my lesson.

I was scared that night I thought I was going to die. If I didn’t know for a fact that my dr would have taken my pain meds away I would have gone to the hospital.

Yeah when pain meds say they last 12 hours believe them and don’t superstack them on top of one another.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Poppy avenue is never a good road to go down mate. I don't know if you've travelled that path before, but if you haven't, then there are better routes to take.


Plus, it can permanently ruin psychedelics for you.


This is why I never trip anymore.
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Thanks mate, I appreciate that positive encouragement.

My options are so limited, needs so great too.

Real catch 22 permanent juggle.

I need to geniusly figure and plot a path on, unless I get enough reprieve in time.

It's taking a long time coming though and every resource has been exhausted.

The thing is, the path I am down by force, so limited by allergies, damaged by infections, no wiseman wouldn't discourage.

Wild daily prolonged benzo use, never a day off and insane amounts.

I can't take any prescription meds, no doctor could offer me benzos, Diazepam pills no good to me allergenically.


I have just over 2 grams Etizolam powder, not available anymore, and using 20 to 25 mg's daily.

If I started heavy tapering now it would be tight.

It's impossible yet. So much needs to swing my way quickly or some kind of miracle.

Because I'm on course to expire and be up a creek, normal folks go see a doctor, taper, access support etc.

Lyme, Covids, 99% allergy rate disables and prohibits those avenues.


But I'm so thick in battle securing survival, recovery after, it's like weather watching for storms on horizon.


So poppy seed tea I figured is a lesser evil than reckless benzo dependance, was part my thinking.


I don't really need psychedelics at all now anyway, Covid nerve damage has made even microdoses of LSD intolerable physically and I've had enough anyway.

My benzo intake has never interfered with my ability to experience LSD fully, rarely but I am a rare case defying a few laws lol.


I am just commencing a fresh course of homeopathy and god do I need it.

For long Covid, Nerve damage, ongoing hemorrhoids and now neuralgia in rectum and bladder too, from fresh Coxsackie virus.


The pain, sickness and now terror kills me.

However the prognosis is good! I patched up well recent months but such a toll.
 
AutoTripper said:
I have just over 2 grams Etizolam powder, not available anymore, and using 20 to 25 mg's daily.

If I started heavy tapering now it would be tight.
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With 2 grams of etiz you could comfortably taper down from 25mg daily. I have been on similar doses and have done it. THe earlier stages are relatively easy - you can reduce by 1 mg every week or 2 and before you know it wou will have reduced your dose signifcantly. THe first few days of every reduction are a little more difficult than it would have been otherwise but Etiz is forgiving of tolerance and dependancy and it really is not too bad.

It's when you start getting back down near to the usual therapeutic doses and cutting further that it can start getting more difficult. May be good to look at switching to a longer acting Bz at that stage.

But 2000 doses of Etiz is more than enough to comfortably complete a gradual taper down from where you are at now, with plenty of spare left over.. Do the maths to prove it to yourself if needs be.
 
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