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Opioids I am going to be a guinea pig and attempt to reverse my opioid addiction.

28 hours isn't long. After 3 days if it's still there, then start to worry.

Without going in to details I used to order ALOT of an illegal substance from a hot country around 04-06 and customs was always less than a day process.

I'll take your route and not worry though. You're right. Twenty-eight hours is no biggie. I am getting low on oxy's and it is very hard to have self control when you are addicted to something.
 
Actually do to its water solubility it will be easy to make an ultra low dose solution. 1 50mg pill mixed with 50ml of water makes a 1mg/1ml dose. Add 1ml to 49mls and you now have 20mcgs/ml. Then ad 1ml to 9mls and you have 2mcgs/ml.
I see. What roa are you going to use? (I apologize if you already answered this.)
 
Hey man,

Very intriguing experiment, can't wait to see the results.

obviously this is easier said than done, but I think you'd be a lot more likely to succeed if you give yourself a few more days with the oxy/nalt combo. As it stands you'll only have a few days...
 
Very interested in this also :)
Good luck mate! I respect your "action-taking" mind set ;)
Will keep locked.
 
ya i cant wait to hear ur results i got a shitload of naltrexone at home they gave me like 4 bottles full after i did that rapid detox bullshit does naltrexone really increase endorphin prodution period? or only for ur experiment? because i tried it once like a couple weeks ago and got sick as a dog i duno why i was clean for a few weeks so didnt try again but if you say it works ill giv it another try
 
ya i cant wait to hear ur results i got a shitload of naltrexone at home they gave me like 4 bottles full after i did that rapid detox bullshit does naltrexone really increase endorphin prodution period? or only for ur experiment? because i tried it once like a couple weeks ago and got sick as a dog i duno why i was clean for a few weeks so didnt try again but if you say it works ill giv it another try

Got to use very low doses. Like 1-3mgs.

Just took my first dose. 3mcgs (orally). Taking 30mg Roxi behind it. Here goes nothing.
 
Guess its too soon to pass judgement on any outcomes but I would take it off the list for potentiators for sure. Woke up sick with no roxis. Hustled up 6 30s. Took 2 doses of 3mcgs so far. Nothing to report other than I am not sick but I am not high. Tomorrow will have to continue using suboxone beings that is all I have. I have money but am trying to put together my rent money (life of a junkie I want out of).

Will continue posting.
 
Nothing exciting or hopeful to post. Feel really apathetic. Not good, not bad. Took 8mg of suboxone and 3mcgs of naltrexone.
 
you could just go for a rapid detox if all else fails. Get alot of benzos if your gonna go that route. Theres actually a thread about it on opiophile sounded somewhat promising but also extremely painful.
 
Possible observation. Been bloated all day. Wondering if that 8mg dose was too high for the suboxone. As the day goes on the bloat is easing up.
 
I do not think this is doing shit. Then again there are no studies on ULDNX with bupe. Have roxis coming Friday. Not many consdiering my habit but could probably be a better judge of effectiveness.

Odds are the naysayers are right. Ain't no escape from this fucking life but jail or death. Been 16 years since I been to prison. If i can't get off this shit I will eventually lose everything and end up back in there. There is the honest productive ambitious me then there is the I do not give a fuck me. Addiction brings that out. When I was a teenager/early 20s my life was like a gangsta rap song on a lower scale. Did stick ups, sold drugs, stabbed a couple people. Since growing up the shit my dad tried to scream in to me set in and I got it together. Fuck this addiction. I want out.

I will continue the experiment with the roxicodone. I won't give up but if this doesn't work I don't know what comes next but I can't live my life spending every fucking dime on pills. would be cheaper to shoot dope but eventually my tolerance will go up on that too and the same results will come. I shot it one time and didn't feel 3 bags and that was supposed to be the bomb dope.

12mgs of sub and I aint stabilized. might be the ULDNX. Took some valiums and naprosyn for the leg pain.
 
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man i read this thread hoping to hear some good news, but i'm sorry you haven't got the outcome you were hoping for....yet.

my experience with naltrexone is... about 9 months ago i went to a doctor saying i was an alcoholic and that i wanted to try naltrexone treatment.

Naltrexone is subsidized for alcoholics, but not for opiate addiction here. so instead of paying $160, i paid $5 for a bottle of 30-50mg tablets with 2 repeats.

my first time taking 1 tablet i felt instantly depressed and subsequently ended up waiting 24hours and then scoring, since then i've had 29 tablets of this stuff lying in my cupboard.

a 50mg dose didn't make me feel physically sick, it just made my urge to get on a lot stronger as i had been clean for about a week.

seeing as its really easy to make an ultra low dose from a 50mg pill, i was thinking that i could use them after all... i don't really have much of a tolerance to opiates right now and since using h over a week ago and about 4 days of oxy use, about 150-200mgs a day, i've been clean apart from a little bit of codeine to help the WD for 3 days.

I'm interested in taking a dose before bed each night and getting some endorphins swimming about. I don't know a great deal about it at low doses but if i take 1mg it will help produce endorphins for 24hours but only block my receptors for 4hrs or so.... i'm interested in this because i've been taking an AD(mirtazapine) for a year but i feel depressed always and i keep relapsing on H and other prescription opiates.

so basically i'm just wondering if i can get any benefit out of taking these small doses of naltrexone you're experimenting with, albeit with a lot smaller tolerance to opiates than yourself? I mean how shit did 3mcgs make you feel? and you felt bad when waking up on that low dose... how long does such a dose stay in your system for?
 
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man i read this thread hoping to hear some good news, but i'm sorry you haven't got the outcome you were hoping for....yet.

my experience with naltrexone is... about 9 months ago i went to a doctor saying i was an alcoholic and that i wanted to try naltrexone treatment.

Naltrexone is subsidized for alcoholics, but not for opiate addiction here. so instead of paying $160, i paid $5 for a bottle of 30-50mg tablets with 2 repeats.

my first time taking 1 tablet i felt instantly depressed and subsequently ended up waiting 24hours and then scoring, since then i've had 29 tablets of this stuff lying in my cupboard.

a 50mg dose didn't make me feel physically sick, it just made my urge to get on a lot stronger as i had been clean for about a week.

seeing as its really easy to make an ultra low dose from a 50mg pill, i was thinking that i could use them after all... i don't really have much of a tolerance to opiates right now and since using h over a week ago and about 4 days of oxy use, about 150-200mgs a day, i've been clean apart from a little bit of codeine to help the WD for 3 days.

I'm interested in taking a dose before bed each night and getting some endorphins swimming about. I don't know a great deal about it at low doses but if i take 1mg it will help produce endorphins for 24hours but only block my receptors for 4hrs or so.... i'm interested in this because i've been taking an AD(mirtazapine) for a year but i feel depressed always and i keep relapsing on H and other prescription opiates.

so basically i'm just wondering if i can get any benefit out of taking these small doses of naltrexone you're experimenting with, albeit with a lot smaller tolerance to opiates than yourself? I mean how shit did 3mcgs make you feel? and you felt bad when waking up on that low dose... how long does such a dose stay in your system for?

Well weird thing was this morning i woke up fine after going to bed hurting. Needed valium and naprosyn to get to slepp. I didn't feel like YA IM ALIVE!!! but didn't feel sick. Felt very blah almost like the 6th or 7th day of withdrawal from oxy. Might be something to this.

1-5mgs is what is recommended for LDN. From what I read it works wonders. Have to take it at night to work with the brains natural cycles. Google low dose naltrexone. Lots of info on it. Just not totally sold on ULDNX yet. Two different animals.
 
Been a weird 24 hours. May have something here.

OK. Monday night, all of tuesday, Wednesday day and Thursday day and friday day I took 8, 4, 4, 4, 4mg of sub. T, W I took uldnx. I was wd'ing after 8 hours each day on subs. Last night I took 180mgs of oxy on top of the 4mgs of sub i had earlier that day. I was high off my ass. No block from the sub. As I said sub only held me 8 hours.

24 hours later NOT SICK. In fact feel good with no signs even subtle, of WD. No leg pains, no metal taste in my mouth. Nothing.
 
u get sick 8 hours after 4mg sub? i bang 2mg a day and need more oxy than that to get high and i dont feel sub withdrawal until going at least 2 days without it and i am a very skinny dude
 
Just my opinion, but, I think that you're not in withdrawal due to Suboxone's half life. Mentally, you're looking for some sort of 'result'. Normally you feel sick after 8 hours, but I can imagine a lot of that is mental exasturbation. Now, you wake up, still with Suboxone satisfying your receptors, but not in the mindset of ''it has been X hours, I should be sick now,'' therefore... you are not sick.

Or maybe you have found chemical magic. (What I'm honestly hoping for...)

Cy
 
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