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Opioids I am going to be a guinea pig and attempt to reverse my opioid addiction.

Mr Blonde said:
Interesting, I will have to investigate that further...
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I really respect someone that says what you just said. Instead of saying it won't work and there is only one way you instead say you will research it and come to your own conclusions. Refreshing.
 
^ Cheers brother. Try not to let everyone else's opinion (negative OR positive) cloud your own judgement; go ahead with your experiment and let us know how it goes. I believe in fully investigating and researching something before coming to an opinion about it, and so far this has served me well in life.
 
Regardless of the outcome, I hope you at least find some satisfaction in the end result, even if it's bad. If I had some way to support you further I would. I'm going to keep tabs on this thread, so don't forget about it or let it die or anything. Good luck.
 
Bigginsmcgee said:
Regardless of the outcome, I hope you at least find some satisfaction in the end result, even if it's bad. If I had some way to support you further I would. I'm going to keep tabs on this thread, so don't forget about it or let it die or anything. Good luck.
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That is support enough. Appreciate those following the thread. Unless it kills me I plan on posting the results, good, bad, or indifferent.

There are threads on here and other boards showing the phase one of my experiment to be effective at one of the three:

1. Maintaining a low tolerance.

2. Reversing tolerance.

3. Using incorrect dosages and going in to a shitty shitty shitty precipitated withdrawal.

Hoping for number 2 of course. I am way past maintaining a low tolerance and definitely do not want to go through PW that shit sucks.

psychomimetic said:
You can't placebo physical dependence away, especially after weeks of use.

I've heard of this technique and wanted to do it ever since I read about it. I'll be very interested in hearing the results, opiates-tolerance-addiction= perfection I think.

I'd also be interested to hear about any side effects you experience. I might however recommend that you start lower on the naltrexone. If 1/1,000,000th of a dose works then there's not really any need to use more then that. Also be careful with the fact that your tolerance will go down if this works, in which case you might need to change the opiate dose.
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I have been using since 07 daily. Started in 06 but was touch and go. Not really a full blown addiction. I guess I could go with the 1,000,000th dosage and work up if necessary. Solid suggestion. Thanks!
 
Hey lozgod,

I am right with you on this experiment dude. I will check back regularly to see how you go, and for now wish you all the best man!

The world is changing, and i sometimes think it is people like those that inhabit bluelight that are beginning to lead the way in the world's understanding of drugs... And rogue doctors who get their fiend on! Man i love rogue doctors.

If i had access to Naltrexone i would be commencing this sort of thing tomorrow... Will have to try and hunt down an addiction treatment doctor here.
 
I've seen articles about this subject here and there and find it fascinating. If you don't mind any advise, you may want to write up your introduction, methodology, and literature review before you begin your actual experiment.........that way you will be able to have everything organized and it will be easier to keep focused on your hypothesis. Writing all that up first will probably also help with spotting any changes that may be needed to your research model before you begin, rather than too late into the experiment. It would be neat to find out whether or not this may be a way to help with problems like tolerance just because tolerance and withdrawal is so devastating to those that are dependent on opioids. Please be safe and careful! Best wishes to your pursuit of knowledge!
 
frogman84 said:
Hey lozgod,

I am right with you on this experiment dude. I will check back regularly to see how you go, and for now wish you all the best man!

The world is changing, and i sometimes think it is people like those that inhabit bluelight that are beginning to lead the way in the world's understanding of drugs... And rogue doctors who get their fiend on! Man i love rogue doctors.

If i had access to Naltrexone i would be commencing this sort of thing tomorrow... Will have to try and hunt down an addiction treatment doctor here.
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Arn't there countries in the world that give out naltraxone to heroin addicts as part of a "anti OD" kit?

I seen one in vancouver, it was a one use unit, it was a nasal spray........
 
frogman84 said:
Hey lozgod,

I am right with you on this experiment dude. I will check back regularly to see how you go, and for now wish you all the best man!

The world is changing, and i sometimes think it is people like those that inhabit bluelight that are beginning to lead the way in the world's understanding of drugs... And rogue doctors who get their fiend on! Man i love rogue doctors.

If i had access to Naltrexone i would be commencing this sort of thing tomorrow... Will have to try and hunt down an addiction treatment doctor here.
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I ordered from an online pharmacy which seems legit from other people's experience. Waiting on it to arrive then it shall begin.
 
Sounds like an interesting concept, but if this is actually the miracle cure you're making it about to be, why has it not replaced MMT or Subs? There is quite a significant difference between the neural anatomies of mice and men. I mean, yeah its "possible" I suppose, but you are more than likely just setting yourself up for failure.
 
Deluded said:
Arn't there countries in the world that give out naltraxone to heroin addicts as part of a "anti OD" kit?

I seen one in vancouver, it was a one use unit, it was a nasal spray........
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You're thinking of naloxone. I believe both can be used for this. I don't know why one would be used over the other in an experiment like this, given availability to both.



Anyway, I subscribed to the thread. I'm looking forward to the updates. Good luck.
 
Livid Panda said:
Sounds like an interesting concept, but if this is actually the miracle cure you're making it about to be, why has it not replaced MMT or Subs? There is quite a significant difference between the neural anatomies of mice and men. I mean, yeah its "possible" I suppose, but you are more than likely just setting yourself up for failure.
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Human trials have begun with Oxytrex and have gotten identical reslults.
 
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I heard something about this stuff Ibogaine that is used by african tribes for their spiritual stuff.But also supposidly this stuff can help with withdrawl and help you stay off it.Something about deep introspection or something thats supposed to help you.Anyways you might want to check it out.
 
^ Yeah, there are a few interesting threads on here about people using ibogaine for treatment in various drug addictions, including one by the moderator tobala.
 
^Ibogaine is truly unique and fascinating. Its a shame that in many places (like my home, the US) its schedule I and outright illegal for all purposes. I really wish they could investigate and study this.
 
linthan8862 said:
I heard something about this stuff Ibogaine that is used by african tribes for their spiritual stuff.But also supposidly this stuff can help with withdrawl and help you stay off it.Something about deep introspection or something thats supposed to help you.Anyways you might want to check it out.
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It is a k opiod receptor agonist. K agonists aren't fun. They can result in vivid life like halucinations that are like a bad trip on steroids. Never used ibogaine but used the k agonists before and wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
 
^ I haven't heard anything too bad about ibogaine, I believe it has some mechanism of action apart from kappa agonism as well. Salvia is a kappa agonist, isn't it?
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ I haven't heard anything too bad about ibogaine, I believe it has some mechanism of action apart from kappa agonism as well. Salvia is a kappa agonist, isn't it?
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Yes that is correct. Ibogaine causes it's trip through the same mechanisms as salvia. I never nor never met anyone that used ibogaine but read positive things as well but after a bad salvia experience I would cause a bad ibogaine trip just from the anxiety of my salvia experience.
 
A quick look into ibogaine shows it is a very complex substance and has many actions in the brain of which kappa agonism is just one among many. I might read a few more trip reports about it and see what they say...
 
I need to say I am over simplifying Ibogaine. It has a lot of effects i.e. seratonin, NMDA receptors, etc. But from what I researched it seems to be agreed by many that it's hallucinogenic properties are via the k receptors.
 
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