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How High Are You? v. Meff For The People

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robotripping said:
anyone know the best ROA for mephedrone? cause my nose is already damaged pretty bad from EPH and d-amp, and well my butt isn't in great shape either!
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Oral is fine, as with most other entactogens. In fact, you might find it more satisfying, as it partially ameliorates meph's disappointingly brief duration.

exists said:
DXM's not just calming, but protective. It's like you can exceed normal operating limits without burning out receptors... it's great!
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er...what do you mean by "exceeding normal operating rates" and "burning out receptors"?

NOD said:
4 mg etiz's, 8 mg phenaz, steady creepin on the heady weed and 5fur144 smoking blend. And I'm getting ready to take 1 blot of acid.

I hope all you poly-drug users know... perhaps everyday you have become the only person ever to ingest that particular drug combo at that particular dosage. We are all scientists with no notes.
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Dude...I hope that you have serious acquired tolerance to benzos, as this would suppress the formation of new long-term memories for a non-tolerant individual a few times over (and thus be a waste of lsd).

Sir Topam hat said:
no, i haven't tried benzos or booze to mitigate negative effects on psychs.
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I found that following a repeating bad trip, all I needed to do was take a long (like multi-year) break and use a pretty different, clearer headed psychedelic than what I worked with previously (opting for 2ci over lsd). Having a benzo on hand for a possible emergency was sufficient enough reassurance without actually taking it.

ebola
 
ebola? said:
Oral is fine

er...what do you mean

Dude...

I found that

ebola
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if i didn't have a serious tolerance to benzos... could I have done this?? i've taken even more etiz's..

This is an ebola quote if u just read the beginnings of them.

ebola? said:
Dude...I hope that you have serious acquired tolerance to benzos, as this would suppress the formation of new long-term memories for a non-tolerant individual a few times over (and thus be a waste of lsd).
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Well the LSD naturally keeps me more sharp while on GABA drugs. But I still have the LSD doing it's thing and I'm calm enough to keep a train-of-thought. I'd recommend it; but with a tolerance adjusted USB 2.0 chip.

I try to flush out from benzos when I can... but for 3/4 of this year they've been candy so no issues.

I switched from RC benzo-mimics to real benzos.... in the best cycle i can recently. no cross WD issues too! in the future, might just do etiz's and phenaz's... the two palz.


Edit: I forgot to answer the part about forming memories.... u might have me there
 
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Good advice, and if not for tre highdose psychedelic trip that still won't let me sleep for a while, I guess with my lower tolerance, coulda been the last good night of my life (probably not, but can you really ever know?)(much of the time in this trip I believed I was in a mental institution but was still having fun- I was actually in the fucking nut house until about 3 weeks ago. Got other things to think about now....
 
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Don't fantasize about it so much... and aint no shame in a trip to psych...

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I guess I'm still phenaz'd.... but starting to come off of everything and just taking hits of green before I probably won't dream unless I remember my 'tonin
 
god damn i like mephedrone.

@ebola: orally just doesnt cut it as the dose has to be so much higher compared to plugging it. So i plug it and do a few bumps every now and then and am pretty damn high for only doing 300mg at most over almost 12 hours. I was thinking of capping up 100mg caps, take one then do small hits to give my nose and ass a break. ? is it likely that if i'm not careful i can create a tear inside? is it simply the result of pllugging mephedrone?

after every ass shot it burns for like 5 minutes then goes away and straight to euphoria. Tried vaping it as well, doses required are too high compared to plugging and wear off too fast. Doesn't seem too hard on the nose either. d-amp made my nose bleed this week and it has no burn really.

this morning/lastnight: 300mg mephedrone, 8mg etizolam, another cup made from 1/2 lb PST (low tolerance is nice for once), then likely some zopiclone or maybe i'll just stay up all day. I can see why this stuff really took off, it's almost like a more psychedelic/mdma like version of d-amp. d-amp feels so cold and robotic but with mephederon you also get that serotnin going and it really gives it a coke/mdma feel. I'm gonna eventually have to lock it up so i don't keep getting stimmed before class.
 
For some reason when psychs are involved.. i get a perfect 6 hours of sleep.. when I eventually get to sleep.

Anyways, ate some etiz's and smoke a bowl to try and get more dozing time.. didn't work. I'm up.. minor headache... drinking water... will be smoking 5-fur-144 here and there today, almost makes me geekout a bit, nice rush, took about 4 sessions to really get used to the acquired taste.

SirTophamHat said:
no, i haven't tried benzos or booze to mitigate negative effects on psychs. benzos i dont have the lump sum to buy a quantity nor the connects to buy a few at a time. ive never considering drinking on psychs really, my friends have done it yet i always seemed to think that they served different purposes. i'm not particularly against it. i tripped so much ages 19-21 that i have the feeling of "been there done that." sometimes the good nostalgia is too much though and i get tempted to trip again. but for the last 4 years or so tripping has not treated me very kindly, so i've basically given up on it. my history is as such: lsd 15-20 times, the 2C-B,E, & T-7 about 15 times (total between all), mushrooms 5 times, 4-aco-dmt ~10 times, and DMT 50+ times. plus random shit like LSA, salvia, 5-ho-dmt & 5-meo-dmt. the only psych i'm 100% comfortable with right now is DMT, everything else would be sketchy for me to take.
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I recommend it with booze if you're bored and tired of dirt spliffs, and RCs are feasible.. (just recommending this to sir)

I have a similar history, and I know others with the same. And every time a friend stops taking psychs... they always say a similar thing as you "i get anxiety" or "i learned all I cal learn" or a mix. But i know many of them are still curious. I guess we don't know the neuroscience, but after so many trips, the brain might just decide no more, I want homeostasis. And rejects all future trips with anxiety... just a weird theory and I still have an afterglow. I haven't hit that spot yet if I ever do, i still feel like a kid in a candy store but know the potential...
 
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All good things must come to an end. Time to do to sleep.
800mg seroquel, 300mg trazodone, 15mg melatonin, 25mg doxylamine succinate, 15mg temazepam, 1mg alprazolam, 1mg clonazepam + 1,600mg of ibuprofen for a backache. Also had 22.5mg hydrocodone for a backache and buttock ache about 3 hours ago. Have a couple of beers to drink over the next 90 minutes or so while I get into a state more suited for sleeping. Had a really interesting and beautiful section of the trip that took place in some place in the clouds. I may have been asleep or in a trance, it was different from most of the rest of the trip (except it took place in a mental institution) it was a happy mental institution. The workers were volunteers of various types of aliens with familiar forms and they were all very nice. Sometimes assholes would start being jerks and the volunteers could send out brainwave signals that acted like drugs to make them happy so they'd stop being assholes. It occurred to me that if I wanted the drug, all I had to do was be an asshole and they would give it to me for free. I did not do that because I was very happy and they were very nice and the other patients were nice but I didn't talk much and I remember pretty much nothing that was said, just the emotional and visual content)

Gonna decide if there is anything else that can enhance this. I don't think there is. I have done too much already. Any more would be way over the top.
I do think I'll light up the pipe just to see if there is some small amount of magic powder in there to give some magic to my dreams (or if I really have fucked up, to make me breathe a little harder and keep my blood pressure a little higher if I come close to croaking. It is too late now. I did not consider what 800mg of seroquel and 300mg of trazodone might do with those benzos, hydrocodone, phenibut, and booze. The trazadone is no biggie, but 800mg of seroquel will kick you in the ass all by itself (I like the calm, sedated feeling I get from seroquel. I also get hallucinations when I take 800mg, which is what I am prescribed. They are interesting at first but then just get boring and dull. I normally just take 400mg, only 800 when I have been several nights without much sleep.

Gonna smoke my electronic cig and see if anything's left in that pipe now..
Might as well finish that beer while I'm at it
 
2mg of etiz sublingually as of now, plan on dosing more. Since this will probably be my last order of etizolam for awhile (because of my budget and daily benzo habit that's forming rapidly) I feel like just binging out and enjoying it.

I'll leave like 5-10 x 1mg etiz pellets in my "emergency/back-up arsenal" and the rest is getting devoured.

Other than that: 300mg IV cocaine, Over a half gram of IV heroin (separate in a few ~0.25g shots), and 50mg DPH.
 
ebola? said:
er...what do you mean by "exceeding normal operating rates" and "burning out receptors"?
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Well I know my mind well enough by now to understand that if I try to use my brain too intensely in too short a time frame, there will be consequences. I've got a Bipolar II diagnosis. I believe that NMDA receptors get "burned out" from overuse, and that it happens to a lot of people, only they don't recognize it. This action probably contributes to higher rates of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's diagnoses.

So when I say, "exceeding normal operating limits," I mean that, in a way, I'm using more of my brain at any given time, as evidenced by the stuff I am able to do (but rarely show anyone). And on DXM, there are no direct consequences, at the dosages I have been taking. The only problem I have is that I've become depended on the stuff, as one would with any SSRI.

In the spirit of harm reduction, don't take my (pseudoscientific) word on the stuff I say about DXM, everyone!

OT: Not high.... yet :)
 
I am also worried about T*R it seems like you are always on a combo of over 4-5 drugs every day. Might wanna cool it bro, i can't imagine waking up every day after doing that many drugs consistently.


-I'm on klonopin and weed as always.... now this combo is really getting kind of boring for me. Heroin and meth thoughts are coming into my mind, but i must kick those away.
 
I over did DXM so I can't get 'important' or valuable experiences from it anymore. Pretty much a garunteed difficult experience, in a spiritual sense. I got all the value I could get from the compound so I'm cool with it. Most other dissociatives seemed much better than DXM to me too.

Smoking/sniffing speed tonight, 40mg methadone, and got a couple pints of beer to sip on.

Unfortunately the beer is shitty piss-water macrobrew. Keystone ice. Though I read a report by someone who did the math to calculate the lowest calorie:alcohol content ratios of beers and keystone ice came out in the top 3. It's interesting, only one light beer made it near the top of the list. Hieniken, and the value they claimed seemed to be lower than what's actually possible. I remember reading alcohol had some sort of standard of 170 calories per ounce in pure form? The Hieniken light calculated out to be something like 140. Those Germans are either onto something revolutionary, or deceptive in their marketing. I doubt they expect any of their customers to actually work these figures out though.
 
PillToChill said:
Cocaine & 6mg bromazepam (instead of my usual 12mg).
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thought you were quitting the hard stuff? ;)

eh, its okay. I caved too. On the bus home, I bumped into a friend of mine, a homeless junkie named jay, and i told him i was sick, and gave me two dimes of tar. I didn't even have the willpower to hesitate, and I was supposed to quit. Anywho, just shot it all at once, it was a little shit, but I'm well now.
 
thanks for the comments ebola? and noddy. it doesnt really break my heart that i cant trip well anymore cause i dont have the time for it. down the line after a nice break i'm sure i'll be good to go with the correct prep.

right now i'm smoking weed, getting close to end of my stash. i need to take a break for a few months so i can save up for a fresh whip, mine's not exciting enough. thinking about that definitely gives me a little anxiety, but i've taken extended breaks before so things should go all right. it's not like it's gonna kill me...
 
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