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Carl Landrover said:
Subs seems better for pain when you're used to them. When you're switching from a full agonist to a partial agonist like sub, I think it's always going to feel like it's not providing the same level of pain reduction. If you take a few days to get used to them, for me it's usually 3-4 days (the length of time to get oxy or heroin out of my system). Then I feel a lot better again and they seem to provide some level of pain management.

I do know a few people that take sub for pain management. They opted to go with that route instead of something like oxy. It's definitely going to depend on how much pain you're in and what type of pain issue you're dealing with.
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Thx Carl, yeah the pain is heavy bro 8/10 constant and the subs just don't touch it. I've been on them for up to 2 weeks and never much of anythink except that first time I tried one for shits and giggles, I was fucking rocked and passed out, I think it sent me into acute wd that one time cause I was sweating and cold and all the signs, but I was fucked up too it was crazy. My buddy didn't tell me I had to be opiate free for awhile (some friend huh) but now I can take a sub about 6hrs after last oxy , this is abnormal from everything I read here I know but it doesn't send into wd or nothing. It just blocks opiates it seems , like it's supposed to, is that really strange or do others do the same thing? I wouldn't advise it to anyone new to subs, just wait the time.
 
80mg meth + a couple beers orally. Fuck yeah, nice and surprisingly calm. Am I the only one who likes the combo of meth and low doses of booze here?
 
Sober, can't even have a rollie around my family that is around... Kinda sucks. Oh well, I'll get by somehow.
 
Carl Landrover said:
Subs seems better for pain when you're used to them. When you're switching from a full agonist to a partial agonist like sub, I think it's always going to feel like it's not providing the same level of pain reduction. If you take a few days to get used to them, for me it's usually 3-4 days (the length of time to get oxy or heroin out of my system). Then I feel a lot better again and they seem to provide some level of pain management.

I do know a few people that take sub for pain management. They opted to go with that route instead of something like oxy. It's definitely going to depend on how much pain you're in and what type of pain issue you're dealing with.
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Sub's are only effective on pain the first 4-6 hours they are taken despite the long half life after the 4 hour range they are only good for making you normal and not dope sick. This is why pain patients take it 4 or so times a day to achieve pain relief all day cause if they took one big dose in the morning like many matinence patients do after 6 hours or so the pain would be back in full force.

Another thing is to achieve pain relief you need low doses (2mg and under) most pain patients start at 0.2mgs every 4 hours or 0.4mgs every 4 hours the temgisic sublingual buprenorphine pills come in 0.2mg strengths and 0.4mg strengths are for pain not matinence patients they have been around longer than suboxone before the matinence potential was realised. I have a herniated disc and diverticulitis so I'm in pain most days but I take 0.3mgs of sub every 6 hours I take it sublingually to but to increase Bioavailability I take some extra steps to not waste any in saliva but it would equal about the same as 1mgs thrown under the tounge like you would normally take it taken 3 times daily since only 30 percent of those suboxone pills make it into your body sitting in a saliva filled mouth.
 
trainspotter10102 said:
Sub's are only effective on pain the first 4-6 hours they are taken despite the long half life after the 4 hour range they are only good for making you normal and not dope sick. This is why pain patients take it 4 or so times a day to achieve pain relief all day cause if they took one big dose in the morning like many matinence patients do after 6 hours or so the pain would be back in full force.

Another thing is to achieve pain relief you need low doses (2mg and under) most pain patients start at 0.2mgs every 4 hours or 0.4mgs every 4 hours the temgisic sublingual buprenorphine pills come in 0.2mg strengths and 0.4mg strengths are for pain not matinence patients they have been around longer than suboxone before the matinence potential was realised. I have a herniated disc and diverticulitis so I'm in pain most days but I take 0.3mgs of sub every 6 hours I take it sublingually to but to increase Bioavailability I take some extra steps to not waste any in saliva but it would equal about the same as 1mgs thrown under the tounge like you would normally take it taken 3 times daily since only 30 percent of those suboxone pills make it into your body sitting in a saliva filled mouth.
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Thx for the tip train, I don't get how less is more? I've heard this before people say "spit the juice out" like don't swallow it u know? I've never gotten that, like if u spit it out or use less why would it be more effective? My exp with every drug I've tried is more is better. Just curious about this phenomenon? I know dick about pharmacology and chemistry so I was just wondering , in simple language why .2-.3 mg would even be effective for anything? I think I'd get sick still from taking such a small amount I know your right probably but I'm just curious as to why this would work?
 
Temazepam is my favorite of all benzos I have tried. What is your opinion on it/which benzo do you like best?
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Temazepam is the best!! i get this warm fuzzy opiate feeling kind of, it's the only benzo that i would say gives me any euphoria.

@OT: I'm stoned after a night of heavy drinking as is tradition for independance day.
 
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snorted a medium sized line of ketamine, gonna lay down and listen to Ulver - Perdition City
wow this is sublime
see ya bitches :)

EDIT:sublingualed (lol) 0.5 xanax and took an hash bng hit
chillax playing naruto :)

EDIT2: Just smoked a lil bit of heroin
melloww
 
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Soo I haven't taken Xanax in a couple days. Definitely some very long days, I remember every detail of each day lol... But I just took 2mg after I got off work, another 1mg a half hour or so ago, and probably another 1mg in a few here. I also took 50mg Diphenhydramine, a nice bong rip of medium dank, and I feel quite contented. Much less stressed out than I was at work, that's for sure. Holy hell, the day after US Independence Day was rough. Very glad this Xanax is doing it's job nicely, that's all I can say. %)
 
Drank coffee and smoked cigs all day like it was my job. Didn't do much else. Oh yea, took my regular benzo and watched Sword of the Stranger for the second time. I know a flick is good shit when I can watch it multiple times.
 
ran out of coffee this morning and was too cheap to buy more folgers so i went to my mom's house and got my k-cup on. smoked a dece amount of cigarettes, facilitated drug ddeals for other people. can't smoke weed right now because i have to pass a urinary anyalysis to get my licence back. same reason i didn't do any of the acid i got for my homie (which sounds like 25i -- "super clean feeling, could even eat on it" and the tabs were bitter). drank a 40z and a few pounders of light beer. my etizolam came in the mail but my apartment unut's mailbox lock broke -- as it has done so a couple times in the last year -- so i broke it open w a screwdriver. guess i'll deal w/ that on monday when they see it. took only 1mg etiz because i tend to compulsively redose and do stupid shit when i mix the two. how do you think i got my dui?

chillin' on my last beer an cig before bed rn.
 
Feeling great on sub. 1st it was a little under a mg sublingual then took a huge dump so decided to plug about .5 and it was fantastic. Also drank a mug of coffee.

Really want to take even just a mg of etizolam but I am really trying to only dose before sleep an stay at 2mg...my use has been getting out of control.
 
did coke last night, feel okay.
catching a train later, hopefully be high on Kratom tomorrow

[edit] also drank a fuck-load last night. not even sure how many beers/pints because i lost count. with a tiny bit of codeine for legit head-ach.

3 of us blew through 2.5 grams of gooood coke near the end of the night (i have no tolerance). i was coming down from the alcohol / coke hard when we were walking home from a party. I threw up like four times on the walk. Ha haven't thrown up from drugs in a long time! good time.
 
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