Heroin How hard is to shoot yourself up the first time?

[amanitadine]

It's hilarious that you guys are trying to use reason on someone that's obviously immune to it. No offense Emily, but there are so many holes in your logic and if you are really getting played like you are describing you are then. . .this sounds trollish. It's all just so ridiculously perfect. Are people really this dense?

If you are being sincere, which I doubt you are, does it not seem a little odd that you would ask a huge pool of drug users and addicts some questions and virtually every one would tell you the same thing, some quite emphatically? Maybe the collective billion years of experience here has some merit? Nahhh, couldn't be. . .

If you are just trying to provoke a reaction, well, than bag off. There are a lot of intelligent and good hearted people here, recreational users, maintenance junkies, former users, etc etc. Basically a whole lot unapologetic drug users. Answering your question too, mind you, just in detail, not the answers you were looking for apparently. What is it you are looking for exactly?

Either this is a troll, or this woman (kid? I can't tell) has made peace with a slow suicide. Sounds dramatic I know, or trite, or harsh, but I don't think anybody nowadays is so oblivious. I was ignorant going in too though, everybody is, but this just seems fishy. It sounds far too like an after school special, or anti drugs program for kids. How old are you anyway, if you are real?

(scratches head, wonders if there are actually people in this world that operate like this. . .)

If this guy sells he knows all too well where virtually everyone that slams dope ends up. So it is very apparent he has no respect for you whatsoever, quite the contrary actually. He wants to destroy you, for whatever reason. And get a few sexual favors out of you in the process. Nobody is like " oh hey drug naive person, feeling bad eh? Well here, let's shoot you up with some heroin, that'll make things better! But I'll never let you use cocaine, that stuff is a killer!" gimme a fucking break. This is horse shit.

 

[pbuilder]

Give it a try, the big problem is though that generally once you IV everything else is mediocre that's why everyone is convincing you to put down the needle.

 

[phatass]

he won't let you try cocaine coz its killer but he'll shoot you up with dope... hmm

 

[faceplant]

Enough people have probably said this already. But seriously ? Either your trolling as they call it. Or your life just took the most dramatic turn for the worst possible.

This friend, isnt your friend. He sounds an awful lot to me like a dealer, who just hooked himself another client. Please, spend 5 minutes looking around other drugs, and the dark side. That should put you off heroin for ever, it put me off. Heroin is the nastiest king of a class of drugs that should be avoided anyway.

From weed to heroin is from A to Z. Most people take years and years of dragon chasing to end up at something like heroin. AND THEN TO IV IT, the first time. Your are just begging to ruin your life.

Lots of people probably told you to stay away from drugs. So when we tell you to stay away from drugs, please listen, please please listen. We love drugs, weed, ketamine, ecstacy, whatever floats your boat. But there are a few drugs that we all try and stay away from, half of this forum gets used helping those people who slipped up and got themselves a heroin addiction.

Although Ive never actually seen this, legend has it, a handfull of people in this world can use heroin 1-2 a year and not become an addict. Youve used everyday for a week or so. You have no chance. However what I have seen is many many peoples live WRECKED by heroin. I know people who are dead, dead. Because of a drug. They actually stopped breathing and died. because of something that started out as fun. Please dont end up another statistic. If you dont wind up dead, you will end up broke if not homeless with a life hardly worth living.

I dont know if your for real or not. And if you are for real, I hope your less stupid than you sound. On the off chance your for real, and you made a genuine mistake. Please, take my advice and move far away from this guy and never see him again. Do NOT learn how to Iv heroin. Your infor a few weeks of hellish withdrawls, but its do able. Just please, please stay away from heroin. Ive lost too many people one way or another to heroin or cocaine, internet friends or real life friends.

On the off chance your for real here. Please read this, and take head. Also, incase your tempted, that wonderufll euphoria you felt, will never happen again, not ever, not quite like the first time. And that is why heroin is so dangerous.

 

[i against i]

^for the record, i kind of think that "if you do heroin you will become a gutter junkie" thinking can be a self fulfilling prophecy. i've used for a year, longest break was a month, iv'd for 2 months and went back to sniffing, haven't used for a week right now, only get a runny nose, insomnia, aches, diahorrea if i stop, so pretty much all the WD symptoms except not very bad at all. longest continuous was 2 weeks all day everyday. not saying that i'm not going to slip up and come back in 5 years crying about my shitty life hiv+ no money in prison, just that the hype about being addicted and IV could make it more likely for a user to feel they have no responsibility for their use. if you become a hopeless addict you have no one to blame but yourself, fuck that AA bullshit and take some personal responsibility for what you do to yourself.

 

[xxxyyy]

is this thread for real? because it sure as shit doesn't seem like it.
i mean, really who goes from smoking pot to mainlining heroin, and what kind of mindset does that require?

for content, i did a lot of very, very stupid things in my life, but that was a slow slide, with things getting more continously, incrementally fucked up. i actually know one person who claimed to have done skag before even getting drunk, and while i know that she's probably not lying, telling me that she 'felt nothing' sort of negates that again.

god, i don't know. this is just not normal behavior.

edit: and with 'normal' i mean 'in any way, shape, or form understandable'

edit2: this sounds awefully fuckin' judgmental, which is something i really hate. i just have a hard time buying people are actually this dense.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

For a bunch posts by a bunch of drug addicts and dope fiends... there's a little too much harsh judgement and hypocrisy going on here for my liking... lets put away the self righteous indignation and not pretend that most of us didn't make any number of the same kind of horrible and life altering decisions despite the plethora of people out there telling us how horrible it was...

I don't doubt the posters validity at all.. someone going from weed to shooting H isn't the typical path..yes.. but it is not unheard of.. not at all. I've known many people who were casual partiers, smoking weed, drinking, etc.. who met the wrong crowd one day and ended up on H. It happens.. this isn't fairy tale land where we all follow the cliche path of gateway drugs leading to the hard shit.

How well did a bombardment of addicts (who are doing the exact same thing you are), telling you how stupid you are and how fucked you'll be, really help you? It didn't help me any, just really pissed me off. Some people.. (most of us on this forum) need to experience the shit for ourselves unfortunately..it's the wiring in our brain. She's already doing IV dope.. cat's out of the bag.. yeah she should stop now while she's ahead..but she doesn't want to and neither did a lot of us..

 

[xxxyyy]

point taken. and yeah, probably a stupid/unhelpful post on my part.
and i know that self-preservation isn't high on the agenda of a user's mind but i just want to scream at people doing what OP does. not because i did it better, but precisely because i hurt myself so badly doing it.
but then i had to suffer fairly viciously before realizing that sometimes good advice should be heeded.

 

[hebb22]

Not as hard as it is to stop. In all my years of opiate abuse it the one thing I refuse to do. It would be certain death for someone like myself

 

[J.D.]

I jumped into heroin just like you did. IV heroin was my starting point with opiates (although I had used every other drug under the sun) - and it took some practice to learn to hit my own vein. Some bumps and lots of bruises and wearing long sleeves all summer. It's not pretty. It's not cute. I'm embarrassed by what I did to my body. But I'm not done. I absolutely love shooting dirty, filthy tar into my body. I love everything about it. There is nothing I'd rather do. And it's sick. I'm not saying you will end up like this, but you might. And this "friend" of yours will be long gone - with some younger, cuter model of you by his side.

Please understand - I'm a regular suburban mom and grandma. I go to my kids' hockey games. I go to my granddaughters' beauty pageants. I go to family functions (although I'd rather skip those). But you know what's always in the back of my mind? How can I get a rig in with me, and where can I use it without anyone catching me. And what if this dose I sneak into the bathroom at my daughter's house is the one that does me in? Which one of my grandkids is going to be the one to find g'ma dead on the bathroom floor with a needle in her arm? Heroin doesn't care.

I see this thread has pretty much run its course....but I think it would be incomplete if someone doesn't remind you that if you are sleeping with this non-using dealer (mmhmm), you really should be using a condom. You've already decided to start jabbing a needle in your arm, and are looking to do so safely, so maybe think about diminishing more risk by protecting yourself in other ways.

It's fine if you don't believe me or like what I have to say. I don't care. I'm just throwing some truth out there for you to look at. This is where I am right now, and it was real easy to get here.

 

[EighthChakra]

I don't see any needle marks anywhere on his body. We have sex so I'm pretty sure I'd notice. I don't know how he knows all this stuff other than it's his business to know this stuff. He does sell it although he mostly sells coke which he told me he'll never let me try because it's a killer. Not that I really care, I'm happy with the heroin.

You need to get off H! It is a killer, not coke! Coke is not nearly as addicting as heroin. I am not saying coke is good, but it is much more subtle and does not have immediate physical withdrawals. Heroin on the other hand is too good for existence on this planet! I have done it once and will (hopefully 8( ) never do it again.

 

[Swain]

I don't see any needle marks anywhere on his body. We have sex so I'm pretty sure I'd notice. I don't know how he knows all this stuff other than it's his business to know this stuff. He does sell it although he mostly sells coke which he told me he'll never let me try because it's a killer. Not that I really care, I'm happy with the heroin.

If he is confident he can shoot you up be sure that he has shot mayn of times. You wouldn't know I shoot at first glance and thats hundreds upon hundreds of injections. I use a new pin and all it is is a tiny red dot. The only reason you can even tell ive ever shot is because when I firsty started I only rotated a few spots, so there is a tiny bit of scarring. Only a trained professional would know what the scar is. it's nmot like a long track line. Ive never had anyone even remotely ssuspect that I shot when they see me in short sleeves if I am in a clean period.

But like I said even if I am using all you get from an injection is a tiny red dot..

It's not his business to know how to shoto people up. That would be extremely fucked up to make it your busienss to devirginize people to iv

 

[weekend addiction]

For me I got large veins and was able to get it. But I wouldn't put all your bags in one shot and assume your gonna miss just in case!

 

[LilbabiC]

Shooting yourself up isn't hard at all but, be certain to keep everything sterile and use a micron filter. Always use a fresh needle. If you are absolutely intent on shooting up, I suggest that you learn to do it yourself and buy your own heroin from a new connect to whom you owe nothing.

I've seen guys like your friend who get women hooked on IV dope. They make the women think they truly care about them. The women become dependant on the guys and the dope they provide. The end result is that guy winds up pimping these chicks out for a return on their investments. I hope that this isn't the case with your situation. Please be careful.

 

[mr.mescalito]

i am not codoning the use of heroin in any way shape or form. it ruined my life and now im on methadone so im better bt stilll wanna getoff mdone. i thout my self how to shoot and i missed so many times my firest time i wasted like 6bags trying to get . and about hitting an artery. as long as you filter your shit and heat it up a lil you wont get gangrene i did that so many times and never got any infections or anythuing i get blood tested once a month at the clinic. not saying it wont happen. i was getting reall good heroin and i prob just got lucky

 

[PeacePipeChief]

This might seem like a stupid question to some of you but hopefully someone out there can help me. I'm not very knowledgeable about drugs. Until a few days ago I had only smoked pot occasionally. Anyway, a couple of days ago I was having a crisis in my life and this guy I hang with offered me something to help me forget. I was scared to death when he pulled out a needle. I can't believe I didn't run away right then. But I was really hurting and when he injected me it was the most wonderful experience in my life. When he offered me the stuff it was only going to be a one time thing but it was so incredible that I asked him for some more the next day. Anyway, I've been doing it everyday now for a week but he's been injecting me because I don't know how to do it myself.

I've googled this and there are instructions and videos.....got to love the internet. But my problem is that I'm not sure I'll be able to do it myself. Is it hard to do inject yourself the first time? Will the sight of my own blood make me sick? I know, stupid questions but so far I don't even look when he's sticking me.

what an absolute prick ... alot of junkies offer people heroin to get them hooked and if ur giving him any then its for that , if not hes probably ripping u off / making money off u . quit asap , i know how useless that is to say .... watch him inject u the next few times , ull probably love the sight of being injected pretty soon , maybe not the sticking part , but the blood being draw back and the plunger going down makes me feel high before ive done it .

 

[tricomb]

He's not trying to take advantage of me. We were already having sex and I don't have alot of money. He offered it to me once. I'm the one who went back to him and asked for more. If I hadn't asked for it he wouldn't give it to me. I can't answer why he didn't have me snort it. But that's irrelevant now. It's how I'm doing it and I don't mind doing it this way.

Sweety, that's taking advantage.

Oh yeah, and he doesn't do drugs? Yet he's injecting you for you? Do the math.....

This person sounds like someone I would have a problem with.

"This person" is not taking advantage of me. He doesn't force me to take the drugs. Other than the first time he never even offers them to me. I ask him for them. The first couple of times he told me that I might want to stop taking it but I decided I wanted to keep doing it. He's done nothing wrong. I wish people would stop bad mouthing him since they don't know what they're talking about.

You are doing exactly what he wants, he's letting heroin do all the forcing. He's not strapping you down and injecting you, but you are knowingly being around him because you know he'll have heroin and you know you're eventually going to ask him for it, and you know he's not going to say no, because he is using you.

 

[Tommyboy]

I would never introduce a drug like heroin to someone that I cared about. If he is a dealer then he sees the damage that it does to peoples lives, and nobody would allow, let alone introduce someone to this drug if they cared about them even the slightest bit. The only drug that I would ever let someone try is weed. I wouldn't even give somebody vicodin to try if they weren't already addicted.

You need to get off H! It is a killer, not coke! Coke is not nearly as addicting as heroin. I am not saying coke is good, but it is much more subtle and does not have immediate physical withdrawals. Heroin on the other hand is too good for existence on this planet! I have done it once and will (hopefully 8( ) never do it again.

I wouldn't say that one is worse than the other, but heroin carries with it physical dependence and psychological addiction, whereas cocaine is just psychological addiction. Cocaine is worse in the fiendish way since you will want to do a shot every 10 minutes, whereas with heroin you get high and are good until either the next day, or many hours later when it wears off. I agree that it was stupid for the dealer to refuse her cocaine because "it is a killer,' when I'm sure that a lot more people have overdosed on heroin than they have on cocaine.

i am not codoning the use of heroin in any way shape or form. it ruined my life and now im on methadone so im better bt stilll wanna getoff mdone. i thout my self how to shoot and i missed so many times my firest time i wasted like 6bags trying to get . and about hitting an artery. as long as you filter your shit and heat it up a lil you wont get gangrene i did that so many times and never got any infections or anythuing i get blood tested once a month at the clinic. not saying it wont happen. i was getting reall good heroin and i prob just got lucky

No need to heat up your shot. It doesn't kill any viruses when you do that, and the amount of time needed to heat it to kill these things would also kill the dope. Heroin HCL is freely soluble in room temperature water, and heating it only allows for cuts that are non-soluble at room temperature to dissolve into the solution and make it through the filter, only to precipitate out of the solution once it's in your veins, and accumumate in your system which can cause health complications and death.

 

[Emily29707]

Sweety, that's taking advantage.

Oh yeah, and he doesn't do drugs? Yet he's injecting you for you? Do the math.....

This person sounds like someone I would have a problem with.


You are doing exactly what he wants, he's letting heroin do all the forcing. He's not strapping you down and injecting you, but you are knowingly being around him because you know he'll have heroin and you know you're eventually going to ask him for it, and you know he's not going to say no, because he is using you.

You are probably right and I'm sure somewhere in the back of my mind I knew what's been going on. But I still maintain that I'm responsible for where I am. I could have said no, I could have not gone back for more.

I've been debating whether or not to continue posting in this forum. While many people have tried to be helpful many others were very mean. Not that I don't deserve it. But it's hard to admit that someone I care about and trust would do the things that everyone here says he's doing. I know I'm naive; I always have been but that's no excuse. I'm responsible for myself.

 

[Tommyboy]

Nobody is saying these things to be mean. We are saying them because we care, and many of us have been in your shoes before, and don't want to see another person go down the road that we went down.