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Heroin Heroin Mega Thread and FAQ

damn, i tried moving the flame back and forth but try as i might i always get shit stains (burn marks) but my friends never do... any advice?
 
All you can do is hold the lighter farther away. The stains themselves aren't bad, but its usually a sign that you're giving it too much heat. Just try to keep the tip of the flame 1/2 - 1 inch away from the foil.
 
I personally think snorting is way better than smoking if you're not willing to bang it. I have on interest in learning how to bang it but snorting is a nice substitute anyways. I'm sure the BA on snorting tar is higher than smoking, what do you guys think?
 
Heroin #1, 2, 3, 4

Tried looking up some info but could only find bits and pieces here and there. I'm interested in knowing what exactly is the difference between #1, #2, #3, and #4 heroin?

From what I've read, I think that #4 is the most highly refined white powder heroin, and the the number system refers to which stage of purification that the heroin has gone through. Can anyone confirm this?

But what are #s 3, 2, and 1? Also where does tar fall on this spectrum? And what are these 4 heroin purification steps?
 
Guitar_Dean said:
Tried looking up some info but could only find bits and pieces here and there. I'm interested in knowing what exactly is the difference between #1, #2, #3, and #4 heroin?
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sixpartseven said:
Heroin FAQ by sixpartseven

What is it?

Heroin comes in two forms: tar and powder. Tar is heroin that still has natural impurities and other opiate alkaloids in it. It is an unrefined form of heroin, and can never be 100% pure heroin. Although it cannot be pure, it can be very potent. The high is also said to be different than powder heroin, most likely because of the alkaloids contained with-in it.

Powder heroin is just that, powdered heroin. It doesn't have natural impurities, but often it is far from pure, just like tar. It comes in two varieties: #3 and #4.

#3 heroin is the base form, usually found in Europe, and pretty much anywhere that is not North and South America. It isn't readily soluble in water, so it can't be IVed in its natural state, but with a little extra work, it can be IVed, but most often it is smoked.

#4 heroin is the HCL form, found in Asia, Australia, and the Americas most often, but can still turn up in other countries from time to time. #4 is readily soluble in water, so typically it is IVed or snorted, but just like how #3 can be shot, #4 can also be smoked with a little extra work.

Of course, either variation can be found in any country. No country is strictly #3 only or #4 only.
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The Straight Dope said:
the first time they expect a mind-blowing high from heroin, but it's nothing like that, it's more subtle than something like weed.
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i think thats the popular misconception a lot of people (non-users) have that you do dope and are so gone that you are unable to move but its not like that
 
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Guitar_Dean said:
Tried looking up some info but could only find bits and pieces here and there. I'm interested in knowing what exactly is the difference between #1, #2, #3, and #4 heroin?

From what I've read, I think that #4 is the most highly refined white powder heroin, and the the number system refers to which stage of purification that the heroin has gone through. Can anyone confirm this?

But what are #s 3, 2, and 1? Also where does tar fall on this spectrum? And what are these 4 heroin purification steps?
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i dont know what 1 or 2 mean exactly, i'm pretty sure they're either opium/morphine being refined into early heroin. #3 is heroin like you find in europe, where you gotta add an acid to the mix before you shoot it. #4 is like what we get in the US, where its ready for injection. i dont know where Tar falls, but i'm guessing #4 even though it doesnt look pretty because its ready for injection
 
I used heroin for 2 weeks. I;ve been clean 72 hours, it scares the shit out of me it only took 14 days to get addicted and move onto IVing and I made one rule to never inject.

I wish the best of luck to you guys, heroin is a monster and pure evil, I'll spend the rest of my life maintaining recovery and not relapsing. All because I got curious, after the first time I used the drug was talking for me and justifying using again and again and even IVing. No other drug has had that power over me, even oxymorphone and oxycontin. I don't know how people can put heroin on the same level as cocaine, it deserves it's place at the top of the drug pyramid.
 
Oxymorphone said:
I used heroin for 2 weeks. I;ve been clean 72 hours, it scares the shit out of me it only took 14 days to get addicted and move onto IVing and I made one rule to never inject.

I wish the best of luck to you guys, heroin is a monster and pure evil, I'll spend the rest of my life maintaining recovery and not relapsing. All because I got curious, after the first time I used the drug was talking for me and justifying using again and again and even IVing. No other drug has had that power over me, even oxymorphone and oxycontin. I don't know how people can put heroin on the same level as cocaine, it deserves it's place at the top of the drug pyramid.
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I think you're beating yourself up a little too much there bud... yeah you used a pretty heavy drug for a couple weeks, maybe even did some stupid stuff (IV'ing) that will take a while to live down. But no, you did -NOT- get fully blown addicted to it. Addiction has so many aspects to it that cannot be obtained in a two week period.
 
Oxymorphone said:
I used heroin for 2 weeks. I;ve been clean 72 hours, it scares the shit out of me it only took 14 days to get addicted and move onto IVing and I made one rule to never inject.

I wish the best of luck to you guys, heroin is a monster and pure evil, I'll spend the rest of my life maintaining recovery and not relapsing. All because I got curious, after the first time I used the drug was talking for me and justifying using again and again and even IVing. No other drug has had that power over me, even oxymorphone and oxycontin. I don't know how people can put heroin on the same level as cocaine, it deserves it's place at the top of the drug pyramid.
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i would agree with everything the guy above me said, you sound like a goddamned DARE PSA. it is that easy to get addicted, now you know. get on with life. putting it on a pedestal like that is a very very easy way to get yourself into doing it again--you're giving something that ultimately you have control over a lot of power here.
 
I smoked H a couple days ago, i was high on meth when i did.
it was my first time trying h n i thought them together was a nice nice high.
so for two days did it all day n night for the most part. today is the third day and im
not doing h or meth again because of advice on how not to get addicted. (its rather easy when ur not dependant)
im not addicted to meth tho either i just occasionally like to go on
little binges for a day or two every couple months. (sounds like bullshit but im not kidding xD)

now its day three i woke up n have some tightness in my chest, and also loads of anxiety.
which made me worry about this combo and how dangerous it is.
my homies do it alot but theyre alot more experienced and used to it,
but im not. should i avoid this?
or is it just all in my head from the meth :D
 
Oxymorphone said:
Alright it's been 72 hours since I did heroin. I want to do it again, but I don't want to become an addict.

I know heroin lends itself to addiction but who out there can take it recreationally amd what do you do to enjoy the power of H yet not get dependant?

I have more than an 8-ball of coke at home (spent the weekend with GF out of town) and it doesn't interest mne. I spent wayyyy too much money on it for the weak high and nasal burn I got but this dealer has solid H. I don't know what I should expect to pay for a bag or bundle of H in NYC and the price thread wasn't helpful. I got tipped off several hundred in one day on coke but the one wax stamped bag of H I got with it was a life experience.

How do I negotiate with dealers (one who I gave over 500 to in one day) to get a fair price on H bags?

I will never shoot up, so what other precautions and dose spaxcng rules should I make for myself so I can mange things on my own?

Also, I take 1mg klonopin and emg xanax a day on average. If I drink I'll skip doeses so I have a lot extra and will sometimes imndulge so am wondering what is safe to mix with H? Thanks.
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Heroin costs $10 a bag, $70-100 a bundle in NYC.... Don't start a habit. I use once a week and I consider that too much as it is.
 
Oxymorphone said:
I used heroin for 2 weeks. I;ve been clean 72 hours, it scares the shit out of me it only took 14 days to get addicted and move onto IVing and I made one rule to never inject.

I wish the best of luck to you guys, heroin is a monster and pure evil, I'll spend the rest of my life maintaining recovery and not relapsing. All because I got curious, after the first time I used the drug was talking for me and justifying using again and again and even IVing. No other drug has had that power over me, even oxymorphone and oxycontin. I don't know how people can put heroin on the same level as cocaine, it deserves it's place at the top of the drug pyramid.
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Nvm. Didn't see this post. I guess I'm a bit late.
 
That weird vinegar smell.

Okay, Ive been shooting dope for a pretty solid 2 years now, and at first all I used to be able to get was black tar, and it always had this really strong like vinegar smell, almost like crap or something. Well, as I moved states, I started scoring some good tan, but just lately the tan powder I've been able to get has the same exact smell as the tar I used to get. Can anyone explain this to me? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I didn't buy any and was kind of scared of getting it, seeing as how I have NEVER had any dope that smelled like that.

Anyone have any input?
 
i believe its the AAA used in the process of making boy, kinda like a more concentrated vinager with is AA i believe
 
That smell is simply acetic acid, a by-product produced when making Diacetylmorphine. A strong vinegar smell doesn't necessarily mean your product is good or bad, and attempting to judge quality by the smell is not the best method of determining purity. Though IME, the stronger the smell/taste, the better.
 
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