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Guns and drugs don't mix

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Similar story.. I was about 17/18, me and a couple friends were hippy flipping, shrooms and X, most of my close friends knew I has a sawed-off 12GA for protection after some homophobic assholes I used to be friends with,(way before this, I wasn't friends with them once they started hating my gay friend) chased and threatened me and my gay friend with bats and chains and shit.. they were some skinhead stoner types.. I have no clue why I thought they were cool when I was like 13/14/15, impressonable youth I guess..

So anyways I procured this mossberg 12ga sawed-off, piston grip badass shottie.. most of my real good friends knew I had it and had seen it, which was auctually good cause word got around to the guys who were harrasing me and my friend and they suddenly stopped coming by my house or even fucking with us in public, knowing i would defend myself and my friend if it came down to it on my property.

So were all rolling and shrooming, fuct out of out minds peaking, and this one kid who was kinda of an associate hanger on was like hey I heard you got a shotgun now, and being trashed I was like hells yea check this bitch out.. pulled it out and started playing with it generally pointing at anyone in my sight.. everyone was like dude put that shit away your gonna kill somebody, and I started to try to explain how theres shells in the tube magazine but not in the chamber, you can see the bottom of the last sheel cause the receiver bottom is open, and my friend is like dude i can see a bullet in there..

So I'm like dude trust me its not loaded, watch I'll put the barrel straight into my mouth pointing out the back of my head and pull the trigger im so positive its not loaded.. well luckly one of my least fucked up/most sober-ish friends is like dude regardless do not pull that trigger and casually took the shottie from me and placed it back in my closet while i was distracted going on some other tangent..

Next day I'm playing with it, listening to some gangster shit, just being ready for some trouble ya know? LOL, and I used to cycle the shells through it just to hear the satisfying cha-ching of the pump action... first time I pump it, A FUCKING SHELL JUMPED OUT OF THE RECIEVER!!! iF my friend hadn't stopped me from pulling the trigger I woulda splayed my brains all over the wall in front of like 5-6 trippin/shrooming/rolling people.. woulda blown their minds so to speak.. I got rid of it later that day..

As the og poster said guns and drugs don't mix.. I mean i was like 5 seconds away from pulling the trigger to demonstrate it was empty.. ska-boom my head would been fine red mist..
 
Yerg said:
Lot of people feel the same way about drugs.
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Yeah, I know they do. But here's why they're wrong and I'm right ( ;) ).

A gun is a weapon which puts others directly in harm's way. A weapon that makes it exceedingly easy to inflict a huge amount of damage to another living being. And for the legitimate purpose of self-defense, you've got the alternative of blades. I posit that guns have no positive application.

Psychoactive drugs can only cause harm to those that willingly ingest them. That's just giving a boost to natural selection for the most part. And even if you consider self-caused casualties of psychoactive drugs a drawback, IMHO it's ludicrous to even attempt to balance them against the innumerable host of positive applications that these chemicals offer.

I rest my case. :)

rangrz said:
okay, I'll go against 10 to 1 enemy vs friendly on my next roto. Will you then BAAAAAW that we couldn't stop a stoning?
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What?
 
DAMN BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

you must be a smart guy to hand your friend a loaded gun WHILE hes tripping

poor dog, i would've shot that guy in the face
 
What a horrible horrible story, one of the worst ive ever read on here , my god gave me a nasty chill :(
 
yea thats america with there fucking gun laws, in other country neraly nobody even has a gun so stupid accidents like this dont happen so often.
 
Torabora said:
yea thats america with there fucking gun laws, in other country neraly nobody even has a gun so stupid accidents like this dont happen so often.
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Yeah, well taking people's guns away from them doesn't solve anything. If you actually think that you can make these types of problems just disappear with a tool as blunt and ineffective as legislation, then you are insane.

It really bothers me that any time somebody hears about a gun-related accident, their first response is to say "just ban 'em! ban the guns!". That won't do anything positive, because the cops and the criminals will stay armed-- and the regular citizens will get fucked as a result. Not to mention, when was the last time anybody actually cared what the law, of all things, had to say about anything? Most of us break the law all day everyday and don't think twice about it.
 
This has nothing to do with gun laws.. I have guns in my house, I trip in my house. I've never had the itch to take them out of their locked cases. Of course i wasn't tripping when I was 13 either.

Lets not bring politics into this, this dude has seen some shit. Regardless of morality and whether it could've been prevented he saw some shit and doesn't need any grief about it. I reacted pretty harshly at first before fully understanding what happened but what can I say...shit's pretty shocking.
 
No, No, No.....

TheAppleCore said:
Yeah, I know they do. But here's why they're wrong and I'm right ( ;) ).

And for the legitimate purpose of self-defense, you've got the alternative of blades. I posit that guns have no positive application.

Psychoactive drugs can only cause harm to those that willingly ingest them. That's just giving a boost to natural selection for the most part. And even if you consider self-caused casualties of psychoactive drugs a drawback, IMHO it's ludicrous to even attempt to balance them against the innumerable host of positive applications that these chemicals offer.

I rest my case. :)



What?
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ANYTHING will put others in harm's way if the person operating it is intent on harming people with it, or if they are using it irresponsibly or recklessly! Not just a gun..... It can be a car, a baseball bat, a stick, a knife, powerful fireworks, or a gun.... More folks are killed by cars than guns.

As far as a knife for self defense, you'd better know how to use it, and be prepared to use it, cause if the person attacking you takes it from you....you're done! What if there are more than one attacker? If you just pull a knife on a hardened criminal who just broke into your house, he probably will just laugh at you, take it from you, and stab YOUR ass with it! A gun, IF USED AND TREATED RESPONSIBLY, is the best self defense weapon.

As far as guns having "no positive application", I myself used to hunt, but that stopped when I turned 19, as I now have no desire to kill anything, but hunting is necessary to keep animal populations in check, so that they don't just starve to death, and they provide sustenance. I now go out target shooting and shooting clay targets with my shotgun, so there is another good, fun, non-harmful use for guns. They are good for self defense as I stated above. They are used in all kinds of competition. They are used by law enforcement to keep us safe. They are used by our military to keep us free, and to free other oppressed peoples, etc. Granted they have been used for conquest and oppression and crime as well, but so were swords, knives, bows and arrows, and spears before them.

A note for 'GLASSASS420':
ALL weapons, ESPECIALLY GUNS need to be responsibly owned and handled AT ALL TIMES!!! You should never touch any gun(or any weapon) if you are drinking or using drugs, period! You should ALWAYS check to see if a gun is loaded as soon as you pick it up, or as soon as it is handed to you! Even if you SWEAR it is unloaded!! ALWAYS stay in the habit of checking to see if a gun is loaded, and never take someone's word that it isnt loaded!! You can never be too redundant with that... Even if I pick up a gun , then check to see if its loaded, then hand it to a friend, who also checks to see that it is unloaded, when he hands it back to me, I check to see if it is loaded AGAIN! ;)

Guns are not toys, and some people should not own them, but that doesn't mean that everyone's right to bear arms should be infringed upon!;)
 
rangrz said:
the Canadian army is small, and often out numbered we can't exactly zerg rush them with knives.
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But that shouldn't stop you from trying, you would win the hearts of people worldwide.

At least roll into battle with swords, perhaps a variety of hammers and shaped-rocks.

They should make me a fucking General, I'm tellin' ya.
 
CharlesTheHammer said:
As far as guns having "no positive application", I myself used to hunt, but that stopped when I turned 19, as I now have no desire to kill anything, but hunting is necessary to keep animal populations in check, so that they don't just starve to death, and they provide sustenance. I now go out target shooting and shooting clay targets with my shotgun, so there is another good, fun, non-harmful use for guns. They are good for self defense as I stated above. They are used in all kinds of competition. They are used by law enforcement to keep us safe. They are used by our military to keep us free, and to free other oppressed peoples, etc.
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I don't think that we need to eat animals. Law enforcement can easily disable an immediate threat with tasers. The only reason guns and explosive weapons are necessary for national security is the fact that our enemies have guns and explosive weapons too.

And, no offense, but I think your little clay-shooting hobby would be a justifiable sacrifice. ;)


Don't mistake me for a supporter of gun LAW. As Roger&Me stated, disarming the law-abiding populace and leaving the criminals with all the firepower isn't really a great idea.

Hell, I think you should be able to buy a fully automatic weapon if that's your bag.
 
I really think legal possession of guns has no real purpose in our urban society.
If people are allowed to own guns they are going to use them. I dont want to say you cant own and use them responsibly but most people aren't responsible ;)

If everybody would be as responsible (with the use of guns) as Roger&Me there wouldn't be a problem...

In my opinion laws are no solution but as long there is no real and guaranteed education of rationality and responsibility they are important. I dont know if this kind of education is possible but it should be worth a try ;)
 
Why would you trip at 13? That's just ridiculous.
I hope you have/eventually will kick you friends ass for doing that to your dog.
 
I know the name of the thread is "guns & drugs don't mix" but what about a gun filled with drugs!
 
Parents dumb for letting you have a gun. You dumb for bringing out the gun. Friend stupid for shooting the gun.

Poor dog, I hate to see pets die more, animals have more innocence than people.
 
One time when we were really drunk and stoned a friend of mine brought out an airsoft pistol. I know, it's not going to kill anyone. But, when another friend was fucking around with it he accidentally fired it. It came, I swear it at least seems like it, less than a few millimeters from my eye. It was so goddamn close. I could have lost sight in the eye, needed surgery etc.

In response to the OP, I don't think I would physically harm my friend just because he was so high and so young in that case. If someone were in their right mind and sober and shot my dog, we'd have a problem rest assured. But I'd personally feel more responsible than the idiot who pulled the trigger in your case. I've always had at least one dog my entire life, so I totally understand how someone can love them like a family member and I'm not suggesting their life is worthless by saying I wouldn't beat down my way too high friend.
 
Why would you trip at 13? That's just ridiculous.
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You didn't do anything silly when you were a teenager? You didn't want to grow up too fast? Most kids will have done something, be it drug-related or sexual in nature or w/e, than they look back on and think "I was too young". Getting judgmental about something in the OP's past that he can do nothing to change isn't particularly constructive.
 
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