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Guns and drugs don't mix

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Volundr said:
Completely off topic but in response to ^

I don't get the argument that guns ensure safety. Say a burglar breaks into your house, you pull a gun on them, you either a) shoot them and have a life on your hands or b) they panic and pull their own gun on you.
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hence, follow the basic military rule, loaded, chambered, cocked, and in your hands, arms reach or the locker.

now you have the upside.
 
13 on shrooms? 13 with loaded gun?

Parents still sound asleep after a gun blast in a house?

This is one strange story...
 
NOBODY should own firearms.

The idea of a tool designed specifically for death at the pull of a trigger is just absolutely disgusting to me.

If you want to kill someone or something, you'd better be willing to get your hands bloody.



But yeah, the kid obviously had serious issues.
 
really really dumb, but I guess at age 13 we were not the same people we are now.
 
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Hate to say it but, you were tripping and you gave your friend a loaded gun? Was there not a single moment you thought hey maybe bringing something that causes death into your trip was a bad idea?
 
This isn't aimed at any one person, but to the faction of folks jumping down this guy's throat with the obvious...

I guess everyone has lived perfect lives and at 13 were well wise beyond their years and were able to foresee the consequences of everything they did at the age of 13. The guy seems to have learned a hard, hard lesson and came here to share that with us, probably to help spread awareness of the dangers that could happen to others. Why can't you all manage a little compassion instead of taking the easy way and bandwagoneering a bunch of easy to come to conclusions that you have the benefit of a life story being encapsulated into a few paragraphs to judge. Sometimes I feel like the psychedelics haven't done much more for you guys than just fuck you up. Wake up people you're not acting very humane. I'm glad he shared this story, it opens up a dialog about an important safety issue for drug users, a large portion of which for one reason or another happens to live near or be around guns. It's sad to hear what happened, but it helps create an awareness that these things must be respected and protected from naive and irresponsible use. I'd rather us try to find what positives in something this sad, rather than just harp on the obvious fact that it was fucked up and if life were perfect he never should have had it happen...
 
This dudes a troll, theres no way your gonna blast your dogs head off without your mom or neighbors hearing a gun shot and being like wtf was that? You also say your dog was crying after it got shot. Thats like hearing a person cry out after being shot, its not your typical "cry", theres non way your mom would sleep through the sound of your dog crying after being shot in the face. Not to mention did he blast your dogs dome in the house? Did you also clean up the blood splattered walls before your mom woke up?? And then you tell her he ran off and died and you buried him..... in the desert... oh and moms just like "Well thats tragic, were gonna miss sparky, but thanks son for giving him a proper burial in the desert in the middle of the night while i was asleep.

Wtf are you doing with a loaded .380 in your room at 13 anyways??????

This story is incredibly sick , and your a sick fucking person for making it up. Im sure you wrote hoping someone who loves dogs or has one would read it while tripping and make them have a bad trip???? I was only high when I read it but it definitely made me feel super sick and dirty being a dog lover and owner, and if i was tripping when I read this I dont even want to imagine the turn it would take, but I know it would be a dark and depressing one.
 
I've actually heard a dog yelp in insane pain as it got beat severely over skype when i used to train these dudes in India to do collections calls for my old job. Skype would pick up everything in the background and one day that's what I heard. One the the trainees told me it is common because there are so many stray dogs and that people get attacked by them often as well. So, I agree that the noises must have loud what with the gun shot and the dog's cries...who knows, it's the internet, maybe it is bogus. If it's real tho, my heart goes out to him tho...what a burden to bear if it's the truth.
 
I dont know, I guess im obsessed with my dog because the thought of me tripping on mushrooms and I hand a gun to my friend and he shoots my dog in the face makes me feel horrible. Thats just not a scenario I can even fathom.
 
And you still talk to them? WTF. I'd fucking murder them, why would you still talk to someone after something so horrible? Shrooms arent gonna make you wanna shoot a dog, or a person, or anything. They're FUCKED UP INTERNALLY.

If anything, drugs just bring it out more. Why the fuck would you take a gun out, while its loaded. This story is so fucked up, it makes me sad. And yeah seriously..

First of all, I would have taken that gun and shot the person myself out of rage. I wouldnt be able to help it. But really, how could you have had a loaded gun at the age of 13? Are your parents that callous or just really conservative (no offense...)?

And so why didnt your mom wake up? I also find this very, very strange.

If you ever talk to that person again, you are spitting in the face of your dog's spirit. So out of respect for your dog, at least tell them off. You dont need to be talking to those kinds of people anyway..
 
NOBODY should own firearms.

The idea of a tool designed specifically for death at the pull of a trigger is just absolutely disgusting to me.
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Lot of people feel the same way about drugs.
 
You said you still talk to your friend.....Just make sure you don' trip with that guy ever again. It sounds like it was one crazy misfortune night. I have had 3 bad mushroom trips myself, and no bad experiences with LSD. You never know what someone's mindset will be before they start tripping or where their head is at in general. I think it is important to really get a feel for someone psychologically before you decide to experience something like that with them. Try and make sure that they are emotionally stable as far as you can tell Now i have to bring this up. Because I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around the key facts of your story here. Alright firstly It is hard to believe that a 13 year old kid can procure psilocybin in what it sounds like is in the form of cubensis. I'm not saying it's impossible just improbable. Secondly you stated that you had hosted "many other acid and shroom gatherings prior to that night". That makes it even more improbable. Then you go on to say when you were thirteen years old you were the owner of a .380 automatic handgun. Out of all the types of guns you had to say, it had to be an automatic handgun. The last gun any parent would give their child just coming out of puberty. Now i might get my son a Beretta 303 20 gauge. Rifles are what you get your kids when they are growing up. Even then you have the responsibility of keeping that locked up in your gun safe where the key cannot be found, and in under no circumstances will the child be allowed full access. Especially if i personally am not there to supervise. A handgun has only two purposes besides marksmanship, and that is self defense, and murder. You have to think to yourself. Why would any parent allow their child to have that much power!? The kids cannot even understand that yet. To prove my point and have you back me up. Its like you said. You went and got the gun while you were intoxicated. Not only did you do that, but you kept the magazine in it, and gave the firearm to someone else fully loaded.As a result of those actions, your dog died. (You wouldn't think about doing something like that at your age. If you were put in the same scenario, would you now?!). Another point on the subject is that you said you lived in a suburban area. Well i will tell you this. If the gun went off, someone heard it and most likely called the cops. Your mother should of heard the gun shot as well, its almost impossible for them not to of. I don't know a lot of people who can sleep through a gun shot in their own house/home. Don't you think its time to at least tell your mom the truth...
 
TheAppleCore said:
NOBODY should own firearms.

The idea of a tool designed specifically for death at the pull of a trigger is just absolutely disgusting to me.

If you want to kill someone or something, you'd better be willing to get your hands bloody.



But yeah, the kid obviously had serious issues.
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okay, I'll go against 10 to 1 enemy vs friendly on my next roto. Will you then BAAAAAW that we couldn't stop a stoning?

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Sorry for making everyone uneasy about my experience. My intent was in no way to give anyone a bad trip while reading this. Catfish hit it right on the money. Thanks bro at least someone understands. I was almost doubting posting this; even the moderator of the forum was suggesting me to get professional help. No hurt feelings i know your just trying to help; THANK YOU!!

I was really troubled back then i hung out with people older than me that's how i had all my connects. My first/only time i smoked crack and tried crystal was that same year. I also sold weed and acid. Also that same year i got busted for selling weed.

I wasn't exactly welcomed into the psychedelic realm by good people. The guy who introduced me to acid is now an upstate lifer for stabbing his prosecuting attorney in the courtroom. He is the son of a former local judge.

I know that everything sounds kinda over the top but hey these are the facts. I still wonder to this day how my mom didn't wake up to the gunshot and the dog crying or that the cops didn't come especially in the neighborhood that we lived in. I still wonder what my dog really looked like; all i remember is my friends that took him away saying that his muzzle was all fucked and he can't be saved. There was a small trail of blood heading out the back door; i still think what if the door was closed or worse if it was a direct head shot?

You guys are all hitting key points that i still don't understand myself; which is what still haunts me.

The only thing that bothers me is not coming forth to my mom because she never had a clue what i was into other than the pot smoking and dealing once i got caught - she tried her best as a hard working single mother. And every once in a long while she mentions the dog. I truly think sometimes ignorance is bliss.
 
words can not describe how i feel about your story - its more of a body-load

how is your life now?

did you learn anything other than the obvious from your experience?

do you take psychedelics still?

do you own firearms still?
 
Perfect title

All I gotta say is that the title of the thread is the perfect title, and one to live by for everyone who reads this. I did some stupid stuff when I was young too, and my best friend and I used to go shooting all the time when we were 13-18. We never did drugs when shooting though.
As far as the one poster who asked whether your parents were conservative as if that has anything to do with this tragedy! Because parents are conservative, does that mean they want their kids to trip and shoot their dogs?
Ridiculous statement!:p
Anyway, I hope you learn from it, but remember that you didnt do it on purpose. You probably just were too high and didnt think to check to see whether the gun was loaded, which is the first thing you always should do, and you had a slip in judgment when it came to taking the gun out to your friends.
 
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