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Gibberings CXV: "I like a woman who talks like Paul Gascoigne"

SamhainGrim said:
Yeah, I agree. Though I suppose if people want to assign some 'spiritual' significance to it, that's their bag.

I must admit that my early smoking experiences often involved 'meeting' a green woman with massive tits. If that's 'mother nature' then she's pretty filthy.
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once when I did it orally I got a strong sense of a sort of feminine motherly 'presence' at one point, like getting a hug from the universe itself, combined with amazing euphoria. Don't remember what her tits looked like unfortunately.
 
haha no hippy baggage, or maybe i define the experiences by what we can relate to as hippy shit, who knows, i like to try and describe stuff but its like trying to explain a painting over the phone to somebody. brings back memories, or what i can remember, typing it out. fascinating shit. friend of mine has always been into science, very clever down to earth guy, the kinda person to be an ideal trip guide or something, let him have a rip on the pipe last year and he said it inspired him to start a course in astrophysics
 
nah the moment has gotta be right, need an envorioment without knowing im gonna get disturbed by people who dont approve, plus ive been drinking, might be off up pub in a min. vape technique? got a pipe, gauze, jet flame lighter and parsley. used to smoke it with a normal lighter and ash or parsley. will never forget the smell of it

although knowing what im like ill come back off my tits, think its a good idea and blast it. i dont wanna taint it although mdma was amazing with it, i wonder if 6-apb would be good
 
Ceres, I know what you mean - in my orl DMT experience it manifested itself first as something flirty that seemed to coerce me into a semi-striptease, till it realised I was bemused and seemed to find this funny enough to let me keep my trousers on, albeit unzipped, pubes-on-parade, root of cock visible.

Then later (how much later being something I couldn't possiblt tell you with any conviction) 'it' manifested as every positive female presence I've ever had in my world lecturing me on how I'm destroying myself and I need to buck my ideas up, lay off the Kestrel, the Baudelaire and the idea that being a pretentious wreck is somehow 'romantic'.

Shambles - maybe the breasts were my own obsessions influencing the experience, ditto the green. The canal bywash is a vivid adolescent memory.

How much of it was down to influence fom my own subconscious and the materials I'd read is up for debate of course. But yeah, not the first drug 'archetype' I've encountered.

And I've definitely met the salvia-woman. Wouldn't touch her with yours. ;)
 
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really pissed up is the only time I've had a "bad" one...just extremely dark, scarey and perverted, but didn't realise it had been scarey till I was back..
 
SamhainGrim said:
'it' manifested as every positive female presence I've ever had in my world lecturing me on how I'm destroying myself and I need to buck my ideas up,
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yeah same, spot on,

just heard about the Connecticut shooting, so tragic, messed up. poor families and victims. american gun laws are crazy and have been for a long time, serious issues with gun control policy, they need to sort that shit out. although stuff happens like that all the time in places, but still

booze seems more stimulating these days, maybe its the lack of hammering stims with booze
 
Shambles said:
Forcible swirlsex with a Spice entity
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This actually happened to me on MXE once, at the time I was convinced it was someone else also on MXE, elsewhere on the planet, bumping into me in the MXE universe. The whole thing felt like an hour long orgasm, and when I sobered up from it I told someone I felt like I'd just been mentally raped by an alien.

Shambles said:
The standard hippy idea that these archetypal entities and recurring themes are there because these things have a real, tangible, independent existence "out there" somewhere. This just doesn't seem very likely to me. But the fact that some of these archetypes are so universal - even amongst people not previously exposed to the surrounding lore beforehand - and specific just doesn't seem to be very easy to explain away and dismiss out of hand either.
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If it's true that psychedelics effectively shut down parts of the brain, I kind of wonder if the brain goes into some kind of reduced state of operating where it interprets things much more basically, relying on instinctive responses more, and as a result these archetypes are the way you frame certain emotional experiences.

The other 'presence' I've felt on DMT was totally alien and terrifying! I think these archetypes are just universal among humans, I've never met any elves myself!

Salvia never let me meet any green goddesses atall, it was more like getting a glimpse of the inanimate machinery of the universe, like peeking behind the curtain of reality, coupled with a strong sense that I was extremely naughty for looking!
 
Ceres said:
MXE universe. The whole thing felt like an hour long orgasm,
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Same, triggered the afterglows which i got for months after. properly lost myself. re-born feeling after, glowing for days, felt fresh. best id felt in a long time

from what i read Salvia sounds pretty scary, was gonna try it but might give it a miss
 
SamhainGrim said:
Then later (hoe much later being soething I couldn't possiblt tell you with any conviction) 'it' manifested as every positive female presence I've ever had in my world lecturing me on how I'm destroying myself and I need to buck my ideas up, lay off the Kestrel, the Baudelaire and the idea that being a pretentious wreck is somehow 'romantic'.
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I've definitely had that one. Almost exactly how you describe it. Some kinda "essence of femininity" both completely loving and somewhat maternal gently chiding me to leave off from the rather self-destructive ways I'm prone to. Made a real difference too. Have greatly curbed some of my worst excesses since then. Have no idea if there is any true "reality" to that experience but it certainly felt very real indeed at the time and for a long time after too. Was hard to pin down a likeness as it seemed to shift constantly never really settling for long on any one set of features. If anything, I'd have to say "she" looked curiously like the classic "grey" alien image only distinctly feminine with it. Almost insect-like even yet still very definitely humanoid and female too. Strange it was. Strange, beautiful, moving (had tears rolling down my face throughout) and deeply comforting.

PS: This "vision" was brought on by a combination of MXE, 2C-B and DMT, incidentally. Was the DMT that triggered it.

Ceres: I get exactly the same on Salvia. Very mechanical with a real sense of being somewhere I'm not supposed to be complete with a sense of vague disapproval by "things" unseen. Move along now, nothing to see here, off you go home again now. Kinda thing. It's so common there's a thread on it in PD. Salvia & The Conveyor Belt or summat similar.
 
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Mailmonkey said:
No debate necessary. All of it was.
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I wouldn't be so sure.

I only read up on what Shambles so fittingly terms the 'forcible swirlysex' after the experience. Admittedly, the breasts were probably my own embellishment.

Don't come over all fundamental materialist-rationalist after you admitted to signing a red card 12:12/12/12. ;)
 
I think the similarity between the entities comes from some part of our brain that has the DNA of generations and generations of memories tucked away...or something =D

Its some mental psychedelia, sometimes cartooony, sometimes alien, sometimes aboriginal, sometimes genuinely jesters and harlequins all punch and judy faces......

SamhainGrim said:
Don't come over all fundamental materialist-rationalist after you admitted to signing a red card 12:12/12/12. ;)
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lol
 
Bit late to the conversation, but is Salvia still legal in the UK? Don't think I've seen it in any shops recently.
Not that I'd use it too often if it was readily available but its interesting now and again.
 
Shambles said:
Was hard to pin down a likeness as it seemed to shift constantly never really settling for long on any one set of features. If anything, I'd have to say "she" looked curiously like the classic "grey" alien image only distinctly feminine with it. Almost insect-like even yet still very definitely humanoid too. Strange it was. Strange, beautiful, moving (had tears rolling down my face throughout) and deeply comforting.

PS: This "vision" was brought on by a combination of MXE, 2C-B and DMT, incidentally. Was the DMT that triggered it.
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Tallies almost exactly with my experience. Seemed to attempt to wear the masks of women I know (even my BL colleague Kate!) to get the message through. Never verbal - just a seies of images and impressions.

Appeared slightly frustrated that I wouldn't readily let my guard down.

Life-changing shit.
 
ColtDan said:
just heard about the Connecticut shooting, so tragic, messed up. poor families and victims. american gun laws are crazy and have been for a long time, serious issues with gun control policy, they need to sort that shit out. although stuff happens like that all the time in places, but still
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It doesn't happen all the time elsewhere though. I don't think anyone has shot up a school in this country since Thomas Hamilton traveled back in time & failed to rid the world of Andy Murray.
 
well the gaza bombings have been happening, just as bad, middle eastern, africa all kinds of shit going on all the time, just it doesnt get televised or whatever, china, korea, who knows what happens
 
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