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GHB/1,4-B/GBL Discussion and use

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Depends if you ate or not during those 3 hours. I normally just redose the same amount but I'd say your idea is better/safer.
 
It would pretty much delay onset, and you'd think you'd need more but you'll blow out after a couple of hours.

What I did when I was addicted to G and got G hunger is eat then puke it back up and have a rehcarge.. lol
 
Haha I think I'll pass on eating and puking it back up :P I think I'll just avoid eating as I don't really get hungry when I'm on it, if I do eat I'll just be careful to not fall the the old "it's not working, I need to take more".

Another thing I was wondering today, how does one tell the difference between a G sleep and an OD?
 
In most cases, friends panicking.

But there are various levels of G sleeps/ODs

You can select to sleep after or being on it, and noises won't really effect you and yoiu'll wake up when you want to, then there's knock out which when trying to be woken up, the user will just make stupid retarded noises and thrash their hands around a bit then fall back to sleep. Then theres the next level, which I've seen many people think is OD, but it's just very shallow breathing, this kind of stuff isn't that safe in say, a closed up car.

You can look up the coma / uconscious test somewhere here on bluelight or google, I forget the guys name who i nvented it, but its name after him. And it's pretty decent to go buy that, the only thing that freaks me out about my friends G'ing out is when they've been on psychedelics, pills or speed all night, or a combo of all, then get into the weed and K and have a benzo or two to calm em selves down, then do a giant bulb session. Then everyone has a fat charge (and not eating for over 12 hours or more) when the bulbs have ran out and pass out then you're the last one to crash, so you're coming down wondering if you should call an ambulance cos you dont know whether your eyes are playing tricks on you or they aren't breathing, and after pills and K your face is normally pale as, deep sleep always has very hard to notice breathing unless theyre slightly snoring, so you're in a constant battle of paranoia waking them up every ten minutes beiong annoying to see if theyre dead or not, but then going back to not seeing them or their chest move and make hardly any noise..... thats been a few times now i was in that position..
ofcourse they woke up but it still scared me.

An OD/toxic level is reaching around the 7-8 gram dose of GHB (so 7mls of pure 1,4b in a very short tikme frame (5-10 min), or 5mls of pure GBL at once), or death can be a possability at 10 grams or more.

There's been very little data where there wasn't alcohol or an accident involved of deaths relating to G alone without other drugs and alcohol. And they couldnt really work out the dose they had had because GHB levels increase at death, so some of them may have had none. And GHB levels can go up when stored in a fridge
 
I wanted to say heavy sleep or what seems like heavy sleep (but they can normally wake up for a second if you tap them or yell their name, or hit them) can be induced by as little at ~3.3mls of pure 1,4b for most, and ~2.4mls of pure GBL. Then again, if you're intolerant to alcohol, a female and light and other aspects, you might get a G-sleep from much smaller doses, especially if you are tired or just woken up and your stomach is empty and I found another thing too, if you got a lot of crap in you, bowel contents also seem to change the effects from a dose.
 
Yeah I had a 1 & 3/4ml GBL dose on an empty stomach after being up a day and a half, and was laying down on my back/side on the couch cuddling someone and I kept falling asleep, she had to keep hitting me and shouting at me and even then I was falling asleep a few seconds later. Usually a dose like that is perfect for having fun and being an idiot but because of the other circumstances I was almost Ging out.
 
Yeah thats a pretty light dose, how much do you weigh and how tolerant to benzos and alcohol and drugs in general?
BTW, do you take it in a glass of OJ or soft drink?
 
I only weigh about 53kgs, my natural tolerance to alcohol is quite low but I've built one up from excessive drinking, benzos I've only done a few times but I seemed to react to them pretty normally. Most drugs I'm about average with, I can easily handle a 2ml dose of G usually, I just prefer to take lower doses with G, I enjoy them more. But yeah that was a freak occasion.
 
As soon as you lie down even on a non-blow out dose your bound to drift off into that blissful world and have a nap
 
Here's a question id like to see other people's view on it.

when G freezes and you unfreeze it there are some that say you must unfreeze the whole thing otherwise it wont be "as good". Now i never believed this as you will get the frozen stuff closer to the edge defrosting before in the middle. commonsense really i could be wrong though. anyone have an ideas?

Also if it is defrosted say in boiling water can too much heat cause problems?
 
You're definitely reffering to 1,4B then, and you're in Vic :) Whatever its in just place it in a warm bath or sink, not extremely hot, just warm/hottish, make sure the lid or whatever is screwed on TIGHT, as warm/hot water can undo it. Use a bucket if you can so you can make the bottle stand or something. Wait for 10-20 minutes. Should be liquid form.. measure up what you want for pewrsonal use, then store it again.

One thing I've noticed odd with 1,4b is it slightly expands when its cold? Even in non frozen form
 
Splatt stop talking shit. I leave for 3 days and you come out with all your bullshit theories (none of his crap is proven, other than in his own mind)

Only truth to what was said in there was the bit about 1,4.b.

GHBs toxicity/death level rates at about 1300mg/kg of body weight. (for an average male about 60ml of 1,4-b for toxicity causing death). Taking it from me, who has had experience with personally - at my old weight of 65g - 15ml of 2:1 dilute GBL. (so roughly 1g of ghb per ml) in doses spaced out over 10 minutes. The blowout was messy - but no where near fatal.

I've also witnessed another blowout like this one in which the person drank 15ml in a 'swig' from her bottle. as if it were the normal thing to do.

Thats not to say people won't die from comatose symptoms such as suffocation from vomiting or something along those lines. But a toxic GHB death is next to impossible - when related to active dose
 
CAN be fatal. Didn't say it was. Theres a case of a man making 25+? grams of GHB at once and sleeping for a day and waking up. Read the words, can be fatal. Doesn't mean "is fatal" And it would be different for everyone, LD50 means exactly LD50, ~50% fatalities.

And I agree fatal GHB deaths are always mixed with other depressants or drugs or there are complications such as as asphyxiation from vomitting. But if someone stops breathing for any reason due to a deep sleep from a drug, the cause of death is that drug. Are you saying people who overdose on heroin do not die from the drug, but from not having anough air then getting brain damage? LOL.

I love a good blow-out/G sleep at times, but taking more then needed for that effect CAN be dangerous and I've been in situations thinking I was going to die waking up in a seizure state over and over yelling and my chest feeling like its caving in after abusing the shit about 30mls pure GBL within 10 hours, with NO current tolerance. Only one blow out, after that I kept redosing and didn't get anything really as I had eaten a big meal, until all the bad side effects kicked in much later.
 
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Splatt, Juice soldier,

Please do not clutter the thread with personal discussions.

Take it to PM.

Lil angel15.
 
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You're definitely reffering to 1,4B then, and you're in Vic :) Whatever its in just place it in a warm bath or sink, not extremely hot, just warm/hottish, make sure the lid or whatever is screwed on TIGHT, as warm/hot water can undo it. Use a bucket if you can so you can make the bottle stand or something. Wait for 10-20 minutes. Should be liquid form.. measure up what you want for pewrsonal use, then store it again.
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If its placed it too hot water can it damage/alter it in anyway?

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One thing I've noticed odd with 1,4b is it slightly expands when its cold? Even in non frozen form
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It is also alot more thicker and gluggy when its cold then compared to if it has been heated up
 
1,4B's boiling point is 230 °C

But anything under 100 degrees should be fine. You don't need boiling water to turn it into its liquid state
 
I tried G for the first time a few weeks ago - I was blown away by it. I was calling everyone I knew saying how I felt like my chest was have a contant orgasm.

I'd rather get one or two hits of the G than blow money on a half of ice...the G is a lot more fun. But I did have them together and I won't forget that night. It reminded me of when I had my first E. Therefore only 2 drugs out of the cocktail I've tried/used regularly over the past 3 years have opened up a brand new experience for me.
 
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