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GHB/1,4-B/GBL Discussion and use

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^dude, dont bother with less than 2ml. seriously. 1.5ml wont do fuck all at your weight.

Im 72kg now, and need up to 4ml a dose at times, an a minimum of 3ml just to feel effects.. I started using g when i was about 47kg, and still used 3ml doses after the first dose of 1.5ml did nothing (thats how much i took first shot). That, and you don't know how pure your stuff is - and you can't get any better than 'pure' (by pure im referring to a 99%+ sample). Chances are if you don't know the person making or importing it - it's been cut to maximize their profits. So go the higher end of the stick in terms of dosage.

Do it right, or don't bother. There is no point waiting around to top up, because you'll probably redose about a ml 2 hours later - and that won't do anything either - so you'll think the drug is shit. So long as your with friends who have any experience with the said chemicals, you should be fine.

Best to do it on an empty stomach, when no other chems have been used for your first time.

Also, i'm not so HR happy when it comes to redosing, i re-dose when it feels right, and i've never ran into complication that wasn't intentional.

side note: The dosages etc i am referring to is for 1,4-b. With GBL, the doses you're looking at would probably do you quite nicely.
 
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GBL for opiate cessation withdrawel

I saw a tv show in LA where they discussed GHB for opiate cessation.
Perhaps abusers could find help, I will try to find a transcript.
 
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It has been used to treat alcohol addictions in the past, since benzos are more addictive than alcohol. I'm not saying GHB isn't addictive, but I think GBL is more addictive. It may help with opiate w/d... but then again we're talking about different receptor sites here.
 
GHB Is currently FDA approved in the USA for a few problems including narcolepsy and cataplexy, and has been approved for 'off label' use as well..

Check out http://www.xyrem.com - interesting read really.
 
Immortal Teknique said:
im 6"3', 95kg's and was wondering if it would be dangerous to maybe start with a 1-1.5ml charge, rather than something like a 0.5ml. From what ive read in this thread redosing needs to be done several hours afterwards however i wanna get trashed at the same time as all my mates, not have to wait 2-3 hours til i can join them.
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Sounds like Im a similar build to you. 6'3", around 95kgs, and yeah I need a fair bit to get a kick from it. Id start with 1.5 just to test the waters, wait a little while and re-dose accordingly. Just keep in mind it's your first time.
 
Hello all, I've searched but I can't seem to find a definitive answer to this. I have some pure 1-4,B that has been stored at room temperature (say, anywhere from 30 to 8 degrees celcius) in a small plastic bottle (hard plastic, it says 0.6 oz on it) since I got it (middle of January 2007), which has been 6 months.

Would it still be safe to consume, or should I throw it out. Thanks in advance.
 
Yeah should be fine. Lol @ the party bubble vials...
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I wouldn't be throwing it out but I would say GBL would stay better for longer than 1,4B.

Does it still have a very oily appearence? and theres no unusual smells coming from it? Have 1ml in like 10-20mls of water of it just for taste sake, see if its still the same
You should be alright, I don't think 6 months is very long at all
 
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I have gotten recently ahold of pure GBL(99,9% ).

I have few experiences with GHB that didn't impress me at all. I know that that GHB I have used haven't been good quality. Neverless, I was qurious what was all the fuzz about this liquid E, so I aquiered some GBL.

In last few day's I have fallen love in GBL. It is much better than my origial GHB experiences. So I have used around 15ML in a day couple day's.

I have found out that I need at least 2.5 charge to feel good and enjoy GBL. It feels so good and natural for me. Around 3ML charge I feel very euphoric. When I take 3ml on empty stomach, I almost G-out, but I can enjoy it still. If I'm recently eaten then 3.5ML is good charge. If 1ML GBL is equal to 1.6ML GHB then when I take 3.5ml GBL I find it that it doesn't have the effects like some say it has with 5ML GHB. Maybe my body don't metablize all GBL to GHB, but I may be wrong. Still, 5.6ML GHB should me too much to everybody, but I find it to me dose for me.

So, today morning, when I woke up, I took on empty stomach 3ML GBL. I was laying on my bed and listeining ambien music. I was flying between consiousness & unconsiousnes. It was amazing. It lasted around 30min when effects started to go by.

All I have to say is that I find GBL to be much better than original GHB. I have find drug to my taste.

[EDIT: Discretion is your friend. Lil Angel15]
 
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Thanks for the info Splatt. Appreciated.

So you reckon I should turf it?
 
Recently tried about 2.5 mls of GBL and quite enjoyed it, though the taste was enough to put me off taking it again! LOL8) :\ It made me feel relaxed and euphoric for several hours afterwards but it was foul to drink.
 
No i meant it should be fine. No use by date etc.

Even some 99.9% GBL btw, is just 99.9% GBL solution (as in no added water), some people use the cheap and faster methods which end up in reality with about an 75-80% yield and they probably dont bother boiling off the impurities (which are mostly harmless) but will still say its 99-100% gbl.

Oh and if anyone hates the taste, Fanta or something like that gets rid of the taste easy, watch out for OJ, it will go to the bottom of the glass.. but soft drinks it mixes and dissolved in perfectly. Or go buy the empty caps from the pharmacy, each one you can put .6ml in them and then swallow them without the taste.
 
To cover the taste I usually get a mouthful of OJ then squirt the G into my mouth and swallow it all down with more OJ. Haven't tried Fanta but might give it a shot next time I manage to get any G, my G guy is the ONLY person I have trouble getting in contact with.
 
You can't do that with pure GBL. You'll fuck your mouth and throat up still.. best in a glass mixed with a drink.. it won't do anything more having nearly no liquid at all.. except a burn placebo
 
I was out raving on Fri night with another Bluelighter and we tried to measure out some doses of G in front of some people we'd been chatting with for ages. They seemed like really good people and I thought they wouldn't care. This would be my very first time taking G at a club. Suddenly one of the guys violently grabbed the plunger out of hands, snapped it in half, but didn't get hold of the vial (thank god). He then proceeded to go on a tirade against juice, "Say no to G", "It's fuckheads like you who are screwing up the scene.." blah blah blah. He sounded like a twelve year old who'd just been to a D.A.R.E program. Me and my friends tried to diffuse the situation so I heard him out and tried to show him that I understood where he was coming from but what he just did was totally uncalled for. He wouldn't have a bar of it saying that it's danerous period regardless of dosage.

Anyways, the cunt later pointed us out to security and we had to leave. He said he was a DJ and that it was as if he was doing some sacred duty to the scene. 8) I would be absolutely A-ok with being kicked out by a promoter who didn't want G at their parties but to be dobbed in by some guy who was was acting like a total n00b to the scene fucking sucked. Now I've met a couple of anti-G people before but this guy had reached the pinnacle of G ignorance and intolerance. Is this a common thing were you are for people to act this fucked up towards you if they know you take juice?

Seriously, the rave community is small here in Melb. Once you've met someone it becomes sooooooooooo easy to run into them again at a future event. So from now on, I'm going to be taking a plunger with me to every event and if I ever run into that cunt I'm snapping the plunger, going to security, pointing him and his crew out (without them seeing me) and having them booted out. Yes...I believe in revenge.

Oh, and this guy lives in Shepparton. Says it all really.
 
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Yeah i find it a bit annoying about the lame cross-drug stigmas.

I mean at a rave one of the first questions you're normally asked if you look like you're on something is "what did you pop tonight?" and notmally people go "yeah one blue mitsi, half a white something, cant remember logo, some pink chinese character pill and a white heart just then" oh did you test them to see if they're mdma? nah i trust my dealers or I just bought them at the rave off some guy.

Uhhh.. so basically these people who are so anti G will pop any pill without a care but you knowing how pure your own G is, and knowing your doses and body is like the worst thing in the world, most people will just walk away from you saying you fuck up the scene or they don't wanna know about you.. I've even had IV meth users give me shit over G use. If anything is fucking the scene its meth, and adulterated pills..

I know it's a bit of a cunt act, but I wear my juice t-shirt to every rave and no ones really clued on yet, and when they have they were just like "ohh...."

Even a reagent TESTED pill is WAY more dangerous than consuming a known amount of G, because pills can still have other substances in them despite them going black, even with further testing, you could end up with some MAOI+mdma mix pill without knowing. If you know your asource of G and take the minimum amount, its not dangerous at all. Probably the safest drug out there, even safer than SMOKING weed (don't know bout vapourising/eating tho)

Whatever, Ill stick to my drugs, you stick to yours and go double drop some unknown mixed dirty RC pill or PMA capsule.
 
Heres question about medical interaction between GHB/GBL.

Is it safe to take benzos with GHB/GBL. They both act on GABA receptors so there should be some complications. Please post if you know anything about this combo.

And is it safe to take GHB wth anti-depresant like Effexor?

Some studyes or personal experiences are welcome, so please post if you know something. IT's just theoretical question.

Any advice would be aprriciated
 
Don't see any harm with using it on prescribed medecines unless they interact with GABA. There may be a decreased effect in the energy you would get on the come-up though on some medeications.

About benzos I've done it before but there is really no need to use benzos with G, even on a comedown. use the benzos later on if you get a G awakeness rebound. Both drugs peaking at once could have bad effects on breathing.
 
I try to keep all G usage on the hush hush. I've only used it twice in public, the first time was the most fun I've had at a club before and the second time I didn't get anything out of it, I dosed too low then didn't bother re dosing.

I find a lot of people are anti-G for obvious reasons. (Stupid) People use it as a date rape drug. (Stupid) People OD on it easier than other drugs, etc etc. I can completely understand why (Ignorant) people don't like it, but I enjoy it on the odd occasion and don't want people thinking less of me for it, so I say nothing unless they ask :)
 
Heh, with my status in the scene i get away with it.. it's not what you're doing - it's who you know.

The owner of a popular day club in melbourne once said to me and my friend, and i quote "Look, if you guys wanna take juice, thats cool.. just don't give us a bad name by doing so."

this same person sees other people on g and is like "YOU ARE ON G, GET OUT OF MY CLUB!!! AAHHHHH".. explain that?

:)
 
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