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some people are such kill joys on this forum

he asks for places to get his dick wet and he should be informed, im sure if he needed some advice on how to treat girls he would have talked to his mother, i see it all over this forum

judgemental bastarrrds!
 
What is a fact, is that most women who are not escorts, HATE escorts.

I once spent a considerable amount of money and time taking some girlfriends of ours to strip clubs and a few upscale bars were the female patrons were working girls - escorts.

I think this should be done to most women as they all had this stereotype image of shaddy old perverts who pay for sex. They were shocked seeing guys like their fathers, brothers, friends, boyfriends at these places. I have been quite lucky to have now lived in 5 countries, and the same thing happens EVERYWHERE... And I just left living in the Middle East recently.

If you tell those same women you have been with an escort, red bells ring, perv alert, and all the sirens in their heads go off. They cannot get passed the idea that a normal guy would pay for sex, cannot grasp the reasoning to it. The reason I believe is that men can enjoy sex for the physical aspects and can set aside all the sentimental issues. In the end, it is a natural act, that over time we as humans due to religion, progress etc have attached so much emotional drama to it and that is probably why the ratio of female to male escorts is so different.
 
I would like to agree with the sentiment of "what is the issue". However the thing that drags in my mind is that these women must be somehow damaged from their experiences as an escort, even if they were never abused.

this may be true. it depends on the woman i guess. if you got hurt enough at a young enough age by the discovery that just cos a guy will sleep with you, it doesn't mean he likes you, you may have distanced yourself emotionally from sex. if you're used to being treated like a whore anyway, i doubt it would make much difference, though then there are obvious selfrespect issues. maybe the damage is already there and the work just brings it into view.

the future boyfs is the real issue- but i do find that ridiculous, if they like you enough and have enough respect for you as a self determining person then they should be able to get over what you've done in the past.
 
some people are such kill joys on this forum

he asks for places to get his dick wet and he should be informed...

judgemental bastarrrds!

Hang on a second. I think if you read my posts I wasn't initially being judgmental about the guy's need / desire to visit a prostitute, but the casual misogyny he displayed in articulating that wish.

Look at the thread title, for fuck's sake. It gets worse from then on.

As for informing him of suitable places, a link was posted very early on which would have supplied him with a wealth of information from like-minded people. Which begs the question: why on Bluelight?

Did the guy assume he wasn't going to offend anybody with the attitude to women in general (and women in the sex industry in particular)? Or did he consider their opinions irrelevant?

The issue of prostitution and the commodification of sex that SHM touched on is indeed a tangled web. Misogyny, however is just plain fucking wrong. End of.
 
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why on Bluelight?
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Well mon ami, it became a hot thread in like a day so i'd say my asking for like minded peoples opinions on here wasn't so silly after all:\

Anyways i've got the number from a close friend who tells me this fine young lady he spent time with is highly recommended.

Thanks again to ya'll even the negative ninnys! It's been a laugh!
 
the future boyfs is the real issue- but i do find that ridiculous, if they like you enough and have enough respect for you as a self determining person then they should be able to get over what you've done in the past.

Yeah but the problem is that any guy (future boyfriend) would assume that the former escort would place a low value on sex. So he would assume that she would be unfaithful all the time. Clearly this is quite ironic though because it's so often the men that cheat on women because they separate the physical and emotional aspects of sex. This is an area where people specifically want to delude themselves to maintain a healthy relationship, they would rather not think about or really know whether their partner is cheating on them. Finding out is pretty much game over for any relationship or marriage -- this is why people who know never grass cheaters up to the spouse. It hurts me a lot to think of my girlfriend cheating on me but to prove I am not a hypocrite I almost wouldn't mind if she was doing it with a high class male escort.

Comes back to an interesting point in relationships though and why men visit escorts or have mistresses. Genuine loving relationships can't be 100% honest ones because the truth would kill. So with escorts and mistresses the relationship is not a loving one but rather an honest and frank one which can be refreshing.

I think this should be done to most women as they all had this stereotype image of shaddy old perverts who pay for sex. They were shocked seeing guys like their fathers, brothers, friends, boyfriends at these places. I have been quite lucky to have now lived in 5 countries, and the same thing happens EVERYWHERE... And I just left living in the Middle East recently.

Yeah I am trying to convey this; the stereotype attached to punters seems really wrong. I think the pervs who have no respect for women will visit cheap prostitutes and won't pay for high class escorts. I have read some of the field reports and it really seems like both parties have a lot of respect for each other, with significant preparation both sides before the act. I don't think it's degrading for either side at the high end.

The strip club thing is interesting too, I'm not sure what to think about that. Are all men pervs or do some just manage to hide it well? I mean it's in our genes right?! Strip clubs must vary a lot, there are classy ones and not-so-classy ones.
 
True. I think the moment you walk out of the place after shagging a hooker would be one the low points of your life. Personally, I could never do it. The thought of the ten sweaty old men that have probably poked it before me that day gives me the boke.

I might do it! The walk of shame after proper drug sesh will be fucking breeze after that.
 
i have met my fair share of female escorts/lap dancers/hostesses/strippers in my time. not sure what it is about the gay scene, but alot of those girls feel comfortable in there private time socialising in gay clubs. maybe they find gay men more liberal, understanding, less judgmental, or maybe they just dont want to be hassled from guys when there not working, ive never really felt the need to pry to ask. i do find it a little uncomfortable, but there life is there life i guess.

ive never really been over familiar or friendly with any, but now and then youll get chatting to a nice girl while out, and theyll tell you what they do for a living. they obviously seem comfortable telling some people, and not others. anyway, they all have appeared pretty nice company at the time. not sure beyond the social chit chat, some may be fucked up, some may not.

in house music clubs, yes they are on drugs, but then most people are anyway, so im not really in a position to judge whetehr there lives are messy or not. they may be just like me, likes the occasional dabble etc etc with what we would call recreationals.

im reasonably liberal, but maybe two faced also, i dont no really. if a girl i meet out tells me thats what they do, i tend to just treat the moment like it is anyway, nothing more than being sociable.

i dont think id want them any closer than that though, but they can be good fun and human just like anyone else it appears in a party context, but there is more to life than just the party
 
I've known a fair few "working girls" socially in my time - being around the crack 'n' smack scene for so many years means you tend to meet more than your average fella. I've tended to get on great with them socially - tend to be very down to earth and good fun gals. But also often pretty fucked up in one way or another. But they were addicts as well as sex-workers so...

Also, I totally disagree with those saying men can easily separate sex from emotion. I certainly can't but my ex-fiance certainly could. She worked as an escort and as a prostitute for a while herself but not for long cos she hated it. She was a complete nymphomaniac but found the reality of being paid for sex with strangers was far more sordid and unpleasant than she expected. Generalisations are kinda general rather than accurate ;)
 
Also, I totally disagree with those saying men can easily separate sex from emotion. I certainly can't but my ex-fiance certainly could. She worked as an escort and as a prostitute for a while herself but not for long cos she hated it. She was a complete nymphomaniac but found the reality of being paid for sex with strangers was far more sordid and unpleasant than she expected. Generalisations are kinda general rather than accurate ;)

That is not a generalisation, because if the opposite was true, you would have many more male escorts, and female punters.

I think dee dee might agree with this, just look at the gay scene and clubs, how liberal everyone is about sex, and that is because men can detach the emotional aspect and enjoy the physical. Maybe I am wrong, not gay nor do I know the scene, but I think it has some reasoning to it.
 
I think dee dee might agree with this, just look at the gay scene and clubs, how liberal everyone is about sex, and that is because men can detach the emotional aspect and enjoy the physical. Maybe I am wrong, not gay nor do I know the scene, but I think it has some reasoning to it.

Generalisation... :)

I want this thread to die almost as much as I do Thatcher.
 
Generalisations abound. The causality between possible lack of male escorts and women not being able to separate sex and emotions is nearly as shaky as your assumption that they can't do this whilst men can.
 
ha ha. i can see where ghostface is coming from actually, even though its a contrdiction to me personally, as im not a male slut, although i have the capabilities of going off on a tangent and behaving like one when i feel like it. its all about choice though really. we can all choose how we want to behave, or i no i most certainly can, but the flip side of the coin is yes, in 20 years of going to gay clubs etc, u do tend to just accept/shrug off that people are whatever, whetehr there promosicous, or selling sex, or whatever. we all have our own set of standards or morals though.

i have met loads of gay guys that wouldnt think twice about cheating or trading in there current partner for somone newer at the drop of a hat, or on there way home from the club just pop to the sauna where everyone else is there wanting the same as you, u can get a fuck in two mins or click on the internet where its possible to have somone over your house in 15 mins for a quick shag and then you say goodbye and probally never see them again.

promiscuity is much more accepted for sure, it doesnt mean every gay man is like that though.

most those options are available to str8 men to though, i just think possibily its viewed as being more seedy, or wrong in normal society.

its pretty much standard now in gayworld to have a gaydar online profile, i have one, everyone i knows has one, except sometimes when somone meets somone and there happy they may get deleted (for the time being)...
 
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Generalisations abound. The causality between possible lack of male escorts and women not being able to separate sex and emotions is nearly as shaky as your assumption that they can't do this whilst men can.

Then what would be a more logical explanation? What is your reasoning to it?

As a female would you think anything less if you found a good friend of yours had used escorts in the past. Just out of curiosity.
 
i think a modern city lifestyle doesnt help either. a gay lifestyle and city lifestyle combined certainly is one of the most liberal your going to come across on your travels thats for sure, but on the same note, its not just black and white either. you cant really pidgeonhole people like that, everyones an individual in there own right
 
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