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GBL Megathread 5: Germans do it better

I really don't get why people don't go to Google at least before asking these questions. I guess when it's 2am & you are somewhat sedated perhaps it is too complex.. :D

I do understand sometime wanting it out the horses mouth so to speak... sometimes it's just nice to bring these topics up, but if no-one is around:

Let me google that for you... Simple! I prefer using google to the advanced search here, unless it's a specific EADD thread I'm looking for.
 
gbl and benzos sounds proper dangerous. i get horrible memory issues due to benzos and the g itself can be depressing respiration. ie id be afraid of not remembering how much benzo or g id have taken. there is also little advantage to the combo other then getting really really relaxed, which you can get with either drug alone. or am i missing something?
 
Its true that i was unable to keep to track of how many benzos id boshed, but i was keeping careful measure and rememebring what GBL id taken and at what time though. :\

The problem is that GBL seems to act as some kind of benzo antidote, making sleep impossible, but throwing benzos into the mix does make it even more relaxing. Once the G has worn off my normal etiz dose does nothing, and then if i wait another couple of hours before repeating it still does nothing. :! (Unless you take large doses of strong benzos like flubro which is no doubt very dangerous, gonna have to watch this). Maybe it's becuase they work on different gabba receptors, ive just skim reserached so far before i get in too deep. (Not that i plan on getting in too deep, i think i should be OK with GHB, i can say that i like it, ratheer than absolutely love it, but could easily see it becoming a nightly thing (especially with no job). I'll have to guard against that, and force myslef to have 3 or 4 non GHB days per week, lest i start dveloping another unwanted and uneccesary habit. It may not seem like it but i am learning from my mistakes in terms of allowing recreational use to spiral to dependency usage (with some substances atleast 8o)

Is it just me, or does G make other people more emotional too:? I find myself getting extra intenstly emotionally involved with whatever im doing; listening to music, watching tv, etc.
 
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Bearlove said:
Benzos -worst drug that make you forget you have taken them :/ .
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This is part of the reason (though not just due to benzos - my memory is shit for this kind of thing) that when I am having a bit of a session I keep a log of the times and doses of each drug I ingest.
 
I write down when I take G to make sure I never accidentally over dose.

Update on my earlier post: turns out I had a stomach parasite so it wasn't drug related.
 
Because I care, I just want to have a nag at you.

Pour it down the toilet, this stuff is highly addictive and harmful if you have a tendency to addictions. It's not nice getting off it. I've had numerous problems with it MDB and ended up with benzo issues just to get off it. A nightmare. This off all drugs isn't worth it. Once you develop a tolerance you're fucked. It aint even that special when you get that far down that road. You can't achieve that hit without KO. What's the point of passing out and having no pleasure? You pass out and put yourself in a vulnerable position, especially on your own. You could choke on your spew, crack your skull as you collapse, It ain’t glamorous stuff. You could burn your fucking house down flower...

Flush it please. You and it aren't suited <3

Ok lecture over. I just don't want to see your RIP thread, ya know...

mydrugbuddy said:
Its true that i was unable to keep to track of how many benzos id boshed, but i was keeping careful measure and rememebring what GBL id taken and at what time though. :\

The problem is that GBL seems to act as some kind of benzo antidote, making sleep impossible, but throwing benzos into the mix does make it even more relaxing. Once the G has worn off my normal etiz dose does nothing, and then if i wait another couple of hours before repeating it still does nothing. :! (Unless you take large doses of strong benzos like flubro which is no doubt very dangerous, gonna have to watch this). Maybe it's becuase they work on different gabba receptors, ive just skim reserached so far before i get in too deep. (Not that i plan on getting in too deep, i think i should be OK with GHB, i can say that i like it, ratheer than absolutely love it, but could easily see it becoming a nightly thing (especially with no job). I'll have to guard against that, and force myslef to have 3 or 4 non GHB days per week, lest i start dveloping another unwanted and uneccesary habit. It may not seem like it but i am learning from my mistakes in terms of allowing recreational use to spiral to dependency usage (with some substances atleast 8o)

Is it just me, or does G make other people more emotional too:? I find myself getting extra intenstly emotionally involved with whatever im doing; listening to music, watching tv, etc.
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yeah cheers Kate, as much as it pains me, i can see now it potentially becoming an addiction problem, and a dangerous one at that, as im starting to really enjoy it. I was rolling around the setee in a state of complete fucked bliss last night. It goes without saying that that drugs that can have those kind of effects are always going to be a huge danger signal. Plus its fucking up my body clock and appetite completely, im waking and sleeping hours that have nothing to do with clocks or daylight hours. Perhaps one last tipple tonight and then £40 down the drain. :(

It'll hurt, but i know its the right thing to do, if i keep hold of this bottle it'll probably be Jan/Feb by the time i finish it, and i will be completely non productive and dysfunctional throughout, and most likely addicted by then too, taking me even further away from my goals of gettinng everything more undercontrol. I can easily see G getting completely out of contol. Though im not dosing 24/7, i like to have at least a few sober clear headed hours in the day, i can see that its gonna make my problems much worse if i carry on uing it.
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
so thats my GBL disposed of, got nice clean drains now. :\ :( (I know its for the best, i guess the coast is now clear for me to continue reducing etiz and kratom.)
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I wish I could give you a big hug, I'm so proud and pleased about you doing that %) Well done <3 Now don't reorder any ok!

Keep on in there flower, baby steps but you can do it.

Be strong. You are in my thoughts x
 
erm thats a bit cryptic, i cannot deny that i enjoyed those 2 nights i combined it with stims listening to my fave tunes so much, so euphoric, also without stims its a different beast. I seem to need quite a lot to reach the required state of bliss, so i can see thats not really a great idea. Stronger people than myself seem to have come undone by this stuff, so thanks to you, Sammy G, BF etc for the straight talking.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
erm thats a bit cryptic,
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No it's not! It means I'll know by your posts whether you've taken any more or not. Have really flushed it or are your pretending? You can't kid a kidder flower :D

i cannot deny that i enjoyed those 2 nights i combined it with stims listening to my fave tunes so much, so euphoric, also without stims its a different beast. I seem to need quite a lot to reach the required state of bliss, so i can see thats not really a great idea. Stronger people than myself seem to have come undone by this stuff, so thanks to you, Sammy G, BF etc for the straight talking.
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Of course the stuff is gorgeous, that's why so many of us get addicted to it. However, its a nasty drug, psychologically very damaging, takes a deep grip of that craving mind button.

I think people here are really fond of you, and care a lot. I for one would be devastated to see your RIP thread. It would be too much and you play far to near the edge, its scary.

Sorry to mean to harp on A but really, please take care x
 
ah i see, it genuinely has all gone. I can see how that Euphoria easily triggers cravings, i already want more, but i s'pose i have to acknowledge that im just not disciplined enough for once a fortnight treats or something, and i'd be using it dayly, i guess im like the mice in that experiment that just kept pressing the button for more and more coke or w/e it was that lit up their pleasure centres until they died, they didnt care much for the button that dispensed food or water.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
ah i see, it genuinely has all gone. I can see how that Euphoria easily triggers cravings, i already want more, but i s'pose i have to acknowledge that im just not disciplined enough for once a fortnight treats or something, and i'd be using it dayly, i guess im like the mice in that experiment that just kept pressing the button for more and more coke or w/e it was that lit up their pleasure centres until they died, they didnt care much for the button that dispensed food or water.
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Yes you are ,just like the rest of us. Rats together ;)

Sometimes it takes a long period of all or nothing, the nothing being where you rewire the brain cells. Going back to recreational is doable, I do believe so, as I have done such. I dabble in my favoured drugs monthly at a minimum now (not G - I'd never go back there, the ROI is shite, honest the stuff is crap alloy cleaner lets face it). Keep at it, its worth it, it takes a while but you can get there and stay alive <3
 
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