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GBL Megathread 5: Germans do it better

You need to weigh it and then take an appropriate dose by weight. 1.5-2g is a good starting dose, and then redose small amounts (0.5g) no more than once every 30 minutes to see what suits you.
 
Transform said:
You need to weigh it and then take an appropriate dose by weight. 1.5-2g is a good starting dose, and then redose small amounts (0.5g) no more than once every 30 minutes to see what suits you.
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When i still had access to it and a good scale (and it was still legal, not a disclaimer but statement of fact), 2.5g was too little, 2.7g was just right and 3g was too much.
It also comes on slowly, don't add a little at the 30 min point but wait at least until the 1hour point. Once seen someone go out cold because it wasn't working as fast as expected and took 3x the recommended dose.

Better still, determine the dose you're going to test beforehand and don't re-dose at all, don't mix with anything else especially alcohol.
Each time do this on an empty stomach and don't have anything important to do for the next 3-4 hours.
Take 1g at day one, the next day go to 1.5 wait at least another day to test 2g, and so on until you've reached the level that is slightly above your comfort level and then lower the dose to determine your perfect dose.
Dosages are best measured out from a solution of known concentration (say 1.00g/1ml) by volume (so 2.00ml=2.00g).
Assume your wax is 100% pure (it isn't) when making your concentration calculation.
 
Brilliant,thanks for the help, very useful indeed. I have already weighed it out into 1g lumps so will follow your advice and see how I get on with it.
I will be cautious as it's my first time so no idea what dose will suit me best yet but will go carefully until I find that sweet spot.
 
I made sure i done my research before getting my hands on this intoxicant sedative, Got 500ml n down to last like 100ml, but its awfully easy to slip into addiction. Recently it was every other day mixed with alcohol (sme nghts id up it to 6-8ml, which when i 1st started this would have knocked me right out)

Like with anything tolerance is a bitch, same goes with gbl. Be careful ppl and dont get into habit of doing it daily....
 
Yeah I don't think just using it daily is enough to suffer from withdrawals, or at least not serious withdrawals. I've used it daily for ages and not had withdrawals. The problem is some people use it round the clock. Then you're fucked.
 
For me it was only when I used it to sleep on a frequent basis I got WD. Full on 24/7 dosing is where it gets really hairy. Not that it's good to use anything daily if you can avoid it, of course, but it's slipping into 24/7 dosing that's the real problem. Specifically, for me at least, when I used KO doses to get to sleep at night.

Never did develop any particular tolerance though. Not even with 24/7 dosing did I even need more than 2-2.5ml at most (aside from one bottle where I needed more right from the start so I presume it had been watered down). That kinda dose would have me bordering on unconsciousness from the first time I used til the last time I used and at every stage inbetween. Actually, if anything, I needed less to get to where I wanted to be as time went on but I have no idea why.
 
Shambles said:
For me it was only when I used it to sleep on a frequent basis I got WD. Full on 24/7 dosing is where it gets really hairy. Not that it's good to use anything daily if you can avoid it, of course, but it's slipping into 24/7 dosing that's the real problem. Specifically, for me at least, when I used KO doses to get to sleep at night..
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Yeah i remem browsing through this thread you created and read of one guy who was dosing 30-40ml a day, cannot remember which page, sounded very dark side imo, he eventually decreased his amount day by day. But id never want to get to that state....

And i find i think about dosing it more after i had a few drinks instead out of the blue.....

Also alcohol did not help shambles, i used to squirt 1.6ml in a drink a do it 3-4 times a nght. Now i have calmed down because only got so much left lol
 
GBL + Booze = very iffy combo indeed. Not that I can speak I know cos was a regular thing of mine. Almost every GBL-related death I can think of was when combined with booze though (some being with other drugs too but booze is dangerous enough as it is to mix with GBL/GHB).

At my height I was getting through 30-40ml a day. Even then I only developed WD symptoms when I used KO doses - either deliberately or accidentally. I have no idea why this is but as long as I didn't KO myself I never once got withdrawals no matter what my overall daily intake was. Very odd. And also very unusual from all I've seen. Most people definitely get WD using amounts anything like that daily. Actually most people get WD from using considerably less than that daily. It's often been noted in the GBL threads that my experiences are atypical and shouldn't be taken as "normal" - especially the relative (or maybe that should be selective) lack of WD (KO doses excluded).
 
Has anyone ever really fucked their stomach/bowels up from too much GBL?

I'm in a bad way at the minute, dunno if I've a GI infection or the GBL has ruined my insides.
 
Well you d have to give a bit more detail than that but.. For me, ghb can get queasy at the more consistent doses...
 
Thought I might be getting a stomach ulcer a couple weeks ago was prescribed omeprazol last week. Bit better but I've had the shits since Saturday could barely eat at times, very bloated. Was dry having this morning nearly went to a&e.
 
Sounds serious man, also more like a gi infection/intoxication. Anyone else who ate with you got any symptoms?
If the shits go on, remember to drink plenty of fluids and eat to regain electrolytes...
 
Nobody else with symptoms but I live alone.

I'm not sure what it is really, dunno if I'm being impatient with the pills, they're a 4 week course. Got tests at doc tomorrow.
 
s0laris said:
I'm not sure what it is really, dunno if I'm being impatient with the pills, they're a 4 week course. Got tests at doc tomorrow.
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Could be metabolic acidosis, which is fairly common with long-term GBL use and often presents itself like this.

If you can't quit the GBL right away then you should probably convert it to NaGHB which carries much less risk of acidosis.
 
Anyone able to confrim either way whether its safe (in terms of respiratory depression) to take limited and measured amounts of GBL on top of benzos? GBL seems to work as some kind of antidote to benzos, at least it seems that way so far i havnet really figured it out yet, perhaps its that GBL switches up to to stimulating mode after a while and just compeletely overpowers the benzos :?

I seem to have a natuarlly quite high tolerance to GBL, seem to need 1.5ml to feel anything. 2.5ml upwards to get peoperly fucked. \: Id probably be sticking to a 1.5 ml size dose if i was gonna take any.
 
GBL itself can be quite unpredictable. Just this stuff alone can knock you out for hours if it hits harder than expected. Experimenting with GBL while taking 10+mg etizolam or whatever you're currently on is playing with fire, though I guess you knew that already.

Taking a small amount of benzos to combat the rebound stimulation from the G might be alright, but that involves waiting with the benzos until the tail end of the G buzz.
 
Posting at 3AM on a worknight you didn't get an immediate reply, so you went ahead and just gulped it all down anyhow. Alright.
A quick search on combining G + benzos would have told you as much as my post, but apparently you were fiending for more GBL such that you couldn't manage that
 
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