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Recovery For Those Of You Who Quit Weed

@Lawyer>True it's not so much the drug we're addicted to but the craving to experience pleasant sensations https://youtu.be/9JVrzc_dxK4, tobacco, weed and alcohol for example can be a lot milder than heroin or coke but at the same time they're very nasty addictions to beat because the reward mechanism the mind is conditioned to is pretty much the same https://youtu.be/kVbT4cMCJ4Q. I agree with phish weed withdrawals are nasty and very real, something most potheads will fiercely deny till the day they try to quit. https://youtu.be/5DgvHnt-_x0

Take it a day at the time, try not stressing yourself a lot because you're still in the withdrawals, just observe the situation (pleasant or unpleasant) and wait till it passes away, now you're feeling down but later you may be feeling upbeat again. Most important is not to relapse because when withdrawals are intense a quick fix is to use again thus falling back to the old habit pattern and it's starting all over again https://youtu.be/FmjjxdDwOIc. At times when you feel miserable it really sucks but try see the good side of it, it will leave such a deep imprint in your mind that will become your best deterrent when tempted to use again.

Evenings are the worst, it's when you feel stressed out because you're sober and you know a bong or a joint will send you straight to bed but at the same time you "forget" there's a price tag attached to it. Right now you can't wait to see the sober days/months piling up on your calendar but even when you get to month six you'll see you'll feel you're still in the beginning, even I'm 15 months sober now it still feels as if I smoked my last joint yesterday.

Check the links for inspiration and motivation https://youtu.be/yVfpIJxYg74, hold on to your vows and don't give in especially when the going gets tough.

https://youtu.be/8oXUtQpsJxY

https://youtu.be/5lpK2v_kitA

https://youtu.be/sNm7VfO39zk

https://youtu.be/f4q97VUb284


All the best :)



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Another day of misery. I'm so fucking disappointed in myself for all that I've done to my mind and body. So disappointed in myself
 
Just disappointed in myself. Feel like I'm in the verge of ruining my life. Should have known better than this's
 
Why feel disappointed? You've made the best decision of your life (to quit weed), unfortunately for some time you'll have to go through an unpleasant phase but there's nothing to worry about because it wont last for ever. Hold on tight, seek help, find people/groups etc. where you can talk about your present situation, the feedback you will get will help you a lot. You're not ruining your life at all, accept the present situation as temporary and do your best to improve it, btw you're doing great so nothing to worry.

Cheers :)
 
I come from a family of blue collar workers, and am the most educated in my family. Went to undergrad, have a BA and a Masters degree and then went on to finish law school. I feel like I'm about to throw it all away, or that I already did. Feel as if I should be further along in life than I am. And I attribute that to my marijuana consumption. I'm not happy with myself.

I decided to start taking the Wellbutrin yesterday, and took the first dose this morning. Let's see how it goes. I feel like crap today, very tired and no energy for absolutely anything.
 
LL>Reasons to be cheerful: Perhaps you don't see it but saying goodbye to weed is already a big step! Life is cause and effect, so if your action today is to quit weed = tomorrow will be happiness and joy.
People in similar situation, might help: https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/

Taking more drugs (Wellburtin) to mask temporarily the withdrawals will bring only more problems (sideffects) https://www.drugs.com/sfx/wellbutrin-side-effects.html. Deal with the deep rooted causes of your suffering instead, the only way to be cured once and for all.

"As an archer aims an arrow, as a carpenter carves wood, the wise shape their lives"

Act wisely :)
 
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My mood has taken a bad turn, I missed work today. Barely got out of bed about an hour ago, have barely eaten the last few days, and have not exercised in 4 days. The depression is taking over.
 
Sounds you're in deep shit man, call see a friend, somebody, anybody, to be alone and depressed it's a no-no, don't let yourself like this, if you don't react things will get only worse, you must go see a friend/family in real and tell them exactly what you feel, don't be afraid to ask for help, if there's a moment your loved ones should stand by your side=is right now.
 
This is no longer a drug recovery issue. You have been sober for well over a month and have no interest to get stoned again. I don’t want to minimize the impact of abusing cannabis, but after 2 months… there is clearly an underlying issue called depression and possibly mood disorder.

Face it, don’t blame weed, you have to take charge of your life now and reconsider every aspect of it. Find a good psychiatrist, ask him for non-pharmacological treatment, preferably. Seek help from your friends and family. I can’t do any more for you, real life people can.

Wish sincerely you will go trough it and find happiness again.
 
I come from a family of blue collar workers, and am the most educated in my family. Went to undergrad, have a BA and a Masters degree and then went on to finish law school. I feel like I'm about to throw it all away, or that I already did. Feel as if I should be further along in life than I am. And I attribute that to my marijuana consumption. I'm not happy with myself.

I decided to start taking the Wellbutrin yesterday, and took the first dose this morning. Let's see how it goes. I feel like crap today, very tired and no energy for absolutely anything.

It sounds like you are being very hard on yourself. You have clearly had a lot of success in your life. You remind me of myself actually, in terms of your background, pedigree and dissatisfaction with where it has landed you. I wonder if you have been on the road you're on because it's expected of you, composed of things easy to accomplish (for you, relatively speaking)? Have any significant amounts of resources been devoted to pursuing what is authentically meaningful to you?


LL>Reasons to be cheerful: Perhaps you don't see it but saying goodbye to weed is already a big step! Life is cause and effect, so if your action today is to quit weed = tomorrow will be happiness and joy.
People in similar situation, might help: https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/

Taking more drugs (Wellburtin) to mask temporarily the withdrawals will bring only more problems (sideffects) https://www.drugs.com/sfx/wellbutrin-side-effects.html. Deal with the deep rooted causes of your suffering instead, the only way to be cured once and for all.



Act wisely :)

This is hardly good advice. Comparing a laissez faire approach of using of a recreational drug to a legitimately prescribed antidepressant is laughable in this case.

LL, the more tools you have in your toolbox, the better off you'll be. Shit, you need as much support as possible. Medication can be a significant asset. Give your medication some more time to start working.

My mood has taken a bad turn, I missed work today. Barely got out of bed about an hour ago, have barely eaten the last few days, and have not exercised in 4 days. The depression is taking over.

Do you have a therapist IRL?

This is no longer a drug recovery issue. You have been sober for well over a month and have no interest to get stoned again. I don’t want to minimize the impact of abusing cannabis, but after 2 months… there is clearly an underlying issue called depression and possibly mood disorder.

Face it, don’t blame weed, you have to take charge of your life now and reconsider every aspect of it. Find a good psychiatrist, ask him for non-pharmacological treatment, preferably. Seek help from your friends and family. I can’t do any more for you, real life people can.

Wish sincerely you will go trough it and find happiness again.


Very well said!
 
Drugs many times mask underlying issues that eventually will find their way to the surface once we stop using, "prescribed" antidepressants similarly will mask them too as they are only a temporary relief to deeper rooted causes. A psychotherapist or a good wise friend can be a better choice instead of popping up pills with a list of side effects that can't even fit this page.

Hope you wake up feeling better so you don't have to stuff more drugs into your system.

Good luck LL, be happy, be free! :)


....you have to take charge of your life now and reconsider every aspect of it. Find a good psychiatrist, ask him for non-pharmacological treatment, preferably. Seek help from your friends and family. I can’t do any more for you, real life people can.

Wish sincerely you will go trough it and find happiness again.
Well said LD, I vote for the drug-free approach too. This is what comes to mind when I hear "prescribed" antidepressants: https://youtu.be/d_mASr1djMM


PS. toothpaste: mindfulness is not drugfulness, if you noticed in LL's posts his mood has been fluctuating due to withdrawals and even 2 months weed-free don't mean much, it takes time. I don't think LL's having serious issues to be kept sedated with more and stronger drugs that will create even more dependence and more issues. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/07/reversing-depression-without-antidepressants.aspx


http://psychotherapy-munich.de/articles/

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Please stop with the personal attack ski-r. Consider this your first warning.

The OP is prescribed a medication by his doctor for a condition that does sound like something other than simple cannabis related. It sounds much more like a co-occuring type disorder, in particular depression.

It takes more than just times to heal. For some people it takes medication. It is worth trying this particular medication out for a month or two at the least to see if it helps, assuming there is a reason to assume it will help. In all likelihood it will probably have little to no effect on the OP, but on the off chance it does have a positive effects it is worth pursuing.

At the end of the day, what will matter most is the healthy habits you can create for yourself LL. If taking an antidepressant helps you get out of bed in the morning and begin to establish healthier daily routines, then go for it! Just remember that you will get healthier if you take steps to becomes healthier. Start with the small, easily accomplished things in your personal life. Stuff you can get done. Master that, then move on to tackling other more challenging harmful habits.

This is all about transforming harmful habits into healthier habits. It takes a lot of work though. It isn't like one you address one habit everything else falls into line. It requires a gentle, constant attention feedback, particularly in the beginning.
 
I don't see the personal attack toothpaste afterall I don't brand your comments Bullshit as you did to mine, anyway if you think the way to treat withdrawals is to stuff oneself with more drugs is your opinion, drug-free/"prescription" or not is mine. Depression you don't cure by suppressing the symptoms but dealing with the cause, since you're an advocate of "mindfulness? I guess you're aware what meditation, yoga and a healthy lifestyle can do to the psyche.

I'm sorry, but this is absolutely B.S.

Melancholy and malaise is normal in early recovery, but it definitely goes away with time. Of course, if one doesn't put in the effort, it is possible to be abstinence yet miserably in life. I hardly consider that sober myself. In truth sobriety is about so much more than just abstinence, it is living a worthwhile, meaningful life.

Nuff said, enjoy life: drug-free/prescription-free and ..be happy :)




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Please do not derail someone else's thread. If you want to talk about how important it is to recover from addiction without the use of any kind of medication, make your own thread. Otherwise, please respect the OP's decision to try taking an antidepressant as an adjunct to whatever else he is doing to work on himself right now.

More of this behavior will result in infractions ski-r.
 
@toothpaste> I think OP is doing great and I hope his mood swing will be soon on the happier side. Sure he's right to take as much pills as he wants but to say to someone who's obviously in the shits "Hey man, before you stuff yourself with anti-depressants see also the other side of the coin" is from empathy since I've been there myself.

Please stop with the personal attack ski-r. Consider this your first warning....More of this behavior will result in infractions ski-r.
Anyway I thought I could help but it seems there's not much room for dialogue. https://youtu.be/1aLWHGJLN7s


Bye :)


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After a truly horrible few days, today was somewhat ok.

It takes up to 90 days for the THC to leave the body completely. I'm on day 64. So I am not surprised that I'm still experiencing wild mood swings. The bad part is that they are getting worse and the bad episodes are really bad. My last break from weed, around day 90 I was doing the worst.

I have not started to take the Wellbutrin yet. It has nasty side effects and I want to try and weather the storm.

Thank you all for your support
 
Woke up today, feeling really good. If I recall from last time, the moods change on a lesser frequency so you string together days which are good, bad or in between. The more I go through this the more I'm convinced that the brain responds to quitting much the same way a body of water respond when you drop a rock. The water goes up and down in numerous waves and then eventually it goes back to the calm before the rock. I view the brain as releasing and then checking chemicals in waves as it tries to establish a balance. This is why the moods fluctuate. I wanna go to the book store today and see if I can find a book on bran chemistry and addiction.

Day 65 has me feeling good.
 
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