Wilson Wilson
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Haha! Whatever OP chooses to taper with, it should only be taken for a short amount of time to avoid acute withdrawal from tramadol. If the taper drug is taken for too many days, that's the only way withdrawal would occur anyway.
Just to be clear, I hold no ill feelings towards @Wilson Wilson. I'm sorry for being aggravated earlier. At first I thought you were trying to push my buttons. haha You were only trying to help as well.
All good! Might as well end our discussion here on a positive note. We've both said our piece.
I think our differing views are mostly cultural. Since you are in the US codeine has more a reputation for being a "harder drug" over there, as well as having status in the same way as Xanax does for being a popular drug of abuse. Over here you can just buy it over the counter in multiple forms as mild painkiller. The pharmacist will warn you to not use it for more than three days due to addiction but in practice it's not difficult to get a continuous supply.
Meanwhile regarding kratom, it is illegal here and while it's actually legal to possess for personal use it's a crime to import, export, or sell it. So that's the drug I consider to be the black market one. Again purely due to differing cultures. Whereas I know in the US the DEA wants to make it schedule I but has failed to do so thus far.
OP has made clear he is not in the US and has easy access to both codeine and kratom so he should use whatever he personally feels more comfortable with. Both have their benefits and risks which I think we've covered extensively.
To be frank, i am suprised how few questions i see regarding tianeptine, considering it is relatively cheap, mostly legal and tremendously addictive.
Me too tbh. I've had that stuff from EU RC vendors and it's somewhere between morphine and oxy. Very weird for a TCA to be so euphoric but of course with the opioid agonism not too surprising. It's illegal here the same way kratom is - so it's legal to possess for personal use but that's it, importing is illegal so customs will take it if it's caught.
I might actually get some more now you mention it, last time I used it was a couple years ago and I did really enjoy it. Made me very social too. Also turned out to be a real nice anxiolytic. At the time I tried tianeptine I was using benzos daily, but when I was on that stuff I could skip the benzos and still be calm as a baby.