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doofqueen said:
Well yes but no. I have no problem with women who work at strip clubs, do porn, are sex workers and any other profession that the main reason for is to objectify women as long as the women doing it are doing it for personal power and independance and are emotionally OK with what THEY are doing as long as they realise that they work in an industry where the primary reason for what they do is so they can be objectified.

you do realise that women who seek 'personal power' from sex are the ones objectifying themselves right? in which case, do you agree that it is only ok for a male to worship the female body as an object only if the women presents herself as an object themselves?

no male masturbates to personality
 
^^ The majority that do it = yes I agree. What about dominitrix's and people who get off on the whole power and control thing or people who are just into exhibition? They obviously like it so they have given permission for people to do it *shrugs*

Men are going to objectify women wether if i like it or not, right or wrong or even if women let them or not so i don't really know what you expect me to say to that? There is objectification and appreciation however. Two different things.

You really think women masturbate to personality? hrmmm that's a novel concept 8)

preacha said:
awesome
that pretty much sums it up
so now that we've got everything clear, can we close this poor excuse of a thread?

We are up to page nine already so it obviously has some interest so it's far from a poor excuse. As far as you thinking all my threads are shit you certainly contribute to alot of them so it doesn't say too much about you sweetheart.
 
what's with tonight and people misquoting others?

"well, duh, um, like, you said no male masturbates to personality, so the opposite must be true. zing!"

moron. and AGAIN you come with the groundless generalisations. "Men are going to objectify women wether (sic) if i like it or not". so instead of changing how males view the 'fairer' sex, you believe it will suffice for now if the current treatment of women continues as long as females are cool with it.

if i continued along this train of thought, people should only be treated as baseless creatures as long as the person in question agrees that they are of low worth. you're really helping the feminist movement, as well as the racial movement, the ageist movement, i could continue but all of your threads just turn into a large portion of bluelighters just yelling "WRONG WRONG, go disrupt the environment by pumping large bass in forest/bush terrain and stay away from a computer."

go read a vagina monologue.
 
You know, i really can't be bothered dealing with you anymore. It's not worth my time. Thanks for trying to educate me anyway though cos you are like um so wise and stuff. I humbly apoligise for getting a letter wrong in one of my words. It obviosuly made a difference to you understanding what i said.
 
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I think all the males in this thread, and also the females that are somewhat 'discouraging' females, should have a read up on Valerie Solaras. Yeh, she shot Andy Warhol and yeh she might've been an extreme feminist, but some of what she said had substance. Frankly, the world is fucked up. Ha, i dont think the world is equal at all? Lets see some Female Presidents/Prime Ministers (and not just the little number that exist now.) Lets start seeing woman being in control and actually not abusing it. Lets see the better side of the world, one where man is second..
 
lmao, good luck with that =D

"I saw Mummy molested by Saaanta Claaaauus"
- Anti-Christmas League
 
Sammy_ said:
I think all the males in this thread, and also the females that are somewhat 'discouraging' females, should have a read up on Valerie Solaras. Yeh, she shot Andy Warhol and yeh she might've been an extreme feminist, but some of what she said had substance. Frankly, the world is fucked up. Ha, i dont think the world is equal at all? Lets see some Female Presidents/Prime Ministers (and not just the little number that exist now.) Lets start seeing woman being in control and actually not abusing it. Lets see the better side of the world, one where man is second..

equality is in the way we treat people, not positions of power.

the reason why most PMs are male is because (imo) males are logical creatures and females are emotional creatures, and each sex makes decisions on that basis
 
Guess Your Not Kidding... Anytime Soon Anyway...

Sammy_ said:
... one where man is second..

Second?
Second base?
See'conned?

Fuck it,
I was gonna write a non-cryptic-biz-post,
but you've elevated equality to new heights...

Mebbe That Green(lighter)horn
- somethink,
what was his name,
fuckin'?
Anyway,
maybe that who said
some bullshit
about my caravan
(of COURAGE!)
was right.

I should keep those bricks
& start buildin' a Thatcher-Roofied House.

Any chicks wanna help?

I got beers...

PEACE
UnSexist
8(

I Love BL.
Reminds me of how many...
Ah...
If ya know,
ya know...
...if ya don'
...you might be like me...

:o ;)
 
The Shwartz!

I think it may have been on one of my ghetto VHS tapes.
But my punk-ass flat-boy broke our VCR.
(an' my TV, Amp, All My Ol'-Skool Glassware...
...fuck it, I'm gettin' worked up...
...I'm gonna go watch the rest of Futurama...)

Now my courage must stem from my masculinity.

:o
 
Sammy_ said:
I think all the males in this thread, and also the females that are somewhat 'discouraging' females, should have a read up on Valerie Solaras. Yeh, she shot Andy Warhol and yeh she might've been an extreme feminist, but some of what she said had substance. Frankly, the world is fucked up. Ha, i dont think the world is equal at all? Lets see some Female Presidents/Prime Ministers (and not just the little number that exist now.) Lets start seeing woman being in control and actually not abusing it. Lets see the better side of the world, one where man is second..

mis·an·dry
Function: noun
Etymology: mis- (as in misanthropy) + andr- + 2-y
: a hatred of men
- mis·an·drist /-drist/ noun or adjective

fem·i·nism
Function: noun
1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
2 : organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests
- fem·i·nist /-nist/ noun or adjective
- fem·i·nis·tic /"fe-m&-'nis-tik/ adjective

Valerie Solanas was a misandrist, a man hater. She was not so much interested in the pursuit of equality, as the elimination of men. Literally.

Some people call her a feminist, but personally while I concede she did attempt to fight for womans rights, she did the feminist movement so much harm one might as well call her a tool of the patriachy.

A bit like you really.
 
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