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[Feedback Thread] How can WE improve on the PD forum? Suggestions welcome!

Is there a way to make it so that all new THREADS from Greenlighters need to be approved before they're displayed? Not necessarily the posts, but the new threads that all say "Where Can I Get Drooogz" and "Meth Makes Me Want A Big Cock In My Ass" (I've actually seen threads like these recently, though not necessarily in PD)... I'm just sick of our home being littered with irrelevant bullshit, and most of it comes from the GL's... If every thread had to be approved before it was even allowed to start, it would only take a few mins for the mods to review the new threads, versus a whole bunch of BS posts talking about how its about to be closed, and then closing it.... Just a thought. BLPD is perfect anyways, but just like the U.S. Constitution, "more perfect" is possible ;)

<3 TMH
 
a thread shouldnt be considered "hot" (have the flames on the envelope) just because it is a couple pages long, if it is 15 pages long but has only been posted on once or twice within the last week then it isnt very "hot"
this complaint is kinda for every discussion board and is kinda minimal and nitpicky but it is kinda troublesome so thats my .02 cents for now
 
i think people need to stop disucssing how they just recieved drugs in the mail.

Everyone is very happy for you that your transaction went good, but this is not the forum to brag about it on.

Come here with experience reports or information on the drugs you have been experimenting on rather than bragging about how they just came in the mail.

Seriously guys, keep this forum safe.

Its for INFORMATION and HARM REDUCTION.

not about how to obtain drugs or how cool you are that you were able to get 2c-whateverthe fuck


sorry for the harshness in the post guys. Ive been a little down lately and have really been seeing the quality of my online home go to shit.

But as some have said. Its cyclycle and good quality posts will start coming arounf again.
 
another suggestion (sorry mods)

WTF is with all the noob questions? We have a drug basics section. Why not move them there and leave PD for a little bit more advanced discussion of psychedelics, like effects and doses of new and novel compoounds, rather than threads on how much mushrooms/dxm/acid to take for the first time.
 
^^ all very good and valid points my dear <3

I would like to second that people have really been getting out of hand discussing prices/ buying things online/ receiving items in the mail and as a moderator it is a PAIN IN THE ASS to have to clean up after everyone.

"PD family" (you know who you are ;) ) report posts that are of this nature. Also feel free to report posts that should be merged into a Big and Dandy thread. This will help us keep the forum neat and clean.


As to the quality of posting lately... there sure do seem to be a lot of questions popping up that have SURELY already been answered previously and I think the best thing to do is to just point them in the direction of the proper answer and then the moderators will close the threads. I have noticed that most of the newby questions that are being asked are by people who have less than 100 posts USUALLY, so we should just help them find their way around the forum, no need to fuss, they will get the hang of it eventually.

Regarding having an advanced psychedelic discussion location (perhaps its own thread) I'll bring this up with the other mods and Im sure we would have to discuss it with the admins as well but it seems to me that it could be a good idea to have an Advanced Psychedelic Discussion forum and a Basic Psychedelic Discussion Forum to keep the psychonauts happy :) <3

Any one else have any thoughts?
 
Edit: These are directed towards Delsyd's posts above.

^ There are also the B&D first-time tripper thread, and the B&D basic LSD questions thread, some of these topics could be moved there. And I agree - there are so many of these basic questions popping up these days, this is what the BDD forum is for.. For some reason, not many threads have been moved there recently.

Understandably, though, moderating is a time-consuming job and mods don't always have the free time to do all those things, especially when the noobs are as relentless as they have been recently.

^^ I was one of the people to announce I received something in the mail, sorry. It's been so long since got ahold of something I have been desperate to taste for quite a while that I just got a bit over-excited. I see your point though and have removed all the references to the fact from my posts (hopefully).
 
Is there a rule that only bluelighters (ie not greenlighters) can create new threads? I mean, I realize that there is no such rule site-wide (wouldn't make much sense) but could such a rule be implemented on a forum basis? If so, it could be a good idea to use this on forums for discussion more advanced in nature (such as PD, OD, ADD) to prevent these threads from cluttering up the forum index. This way greenlighters would be forced to actually read the guidelines and find out the appropriate place to post their queries. If such a feature doesn't exist though, there really is no simple solution to this problem I guess.

Regarding the report function - does it make moderating much easier? Is this function being used often enough by members? Personally, I've been using it here and there for more major violations of the rules, but if it would make the life a lot easier for mods I would gladly start using it more ofter (such as for reporting threads that need to be moved or merged with another thread, etc). I do agree that the amount of noise around here recently is quite annoying, and it would take much less time and effort to browse the forums for new posts if they were posted in the right place to begin with.
 
Im going to make this a sticky for a week or so so we get some good input <3 its always welcome.

Recept greenlighters can create new threads just FYI... you have a valid point there tho, if they couldn't create new threads they would have to learn to use the search function.

RE: Reporting threads, one of the first things I do when I log on is check the reported posts thread (hidden from your eyes but quite useful to us mods) it would save us from having to READ EVERY thread to find out which ones needed some fiddling around with, so to me, yes it does help... other mods?? whacha think?
 
*Love*Lite* said:
Regarding having an advanced psychedelic discussion location (perhaps its own thread) I'll bring this up with the other mods and Im sure we would have to discuss it with the admins as well but it seems to me that it could be a good idea to have an Advanced Psychedelic Discussion forum and a Basic Psychedelic Discussion Forum to keep the psychonauts happy :) <3
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Actually i dont see a need to split PD into two (advanced and begginner).
All im saying is the noob questions should be redirected to BDD or their appropriate big and dandy thread.

IMO there should be a version of the B&D first time trippers thread in both BDD and PD.

When PD was started many moons ago by our forefathers MGS and Sebastions Ghost it was meant to be a forum to discuss more advanced topics regarding psychs and at the time less researched psychedelics (now known as RC's).
Im not trying to turn PD in ADD but i dont want to see it detiriorate into something of hip-forums status, where kids come on here on tell us all how fuxxored they are on 2c-dilly-ding-dong.

Personally i think threads regarding extracting DMT or Mescaline, growing mushrooms, or threads that talk slightly about synthesis should be aloud rather than redirecting them to shroomery, the nexus etc. That way more of that knowledge can be passed onto BLers who didnt know of it prior to the question being asked.

In fact if its aloud i think we should start a B&D DMT extraction thread and a B&D mescaline extrction thread.

much love all.
<3
 
Delsyd said:
Personally i think threads regarding extracting DMT or Mescaline, growing mushrooms, or threads that talk slightly about synthesis should be aloud rather than redirecting them to shroomery, the nexus etc. That way more of that knowledge can be passed onto BLers who didnt know of it prior to the question being asked.

In fact if its aloud i think we should start a B&D DMT extraction thread and a B&D mescaline extrction thread.

much love all.
<3
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As far as I am aware we dont allow discussion of synthesis or extractions in PD... but again I will have to default the true answer to this question to my superior moderators <3
 
Hmm I don't see any mention of extractions or synthesis in PD forum guidelines or BLUA, perhaps I'm just blind.. I agree that synthesis discussion shouldn't be allowed, not sure about extractions though. There is a lot of that going on and I've never seen any of it moderated, plus I think it should be allowed for the sake of harm reduction. Also, I agree with Delsyd that it would be a good idea to have separate threads for DMT and Mescaline extraction, perhaps also for DXM and LSA.
 
like to find out if extractions cn be covered!!!! need education... i garden!!!

i heart PD.. more social threads, maybe more mega-mega-mega merged threads!
 
Yeah, good call about hushing up about the stash, I was recently guilty of such idiocy.

We've been allowing extraction discussion to go on for a long time. I don't really see anything wrong with it except for people starting thousands of threads on the same subject and having to repeat ourselves over and over again. There should be Big&Dandy threads for extractions.

About the greenlighter threads thing. I think greenlighters shouldn't be allowed to make new threads in PD. That way they'd have to click on the PD index and find the appropriate B&D thread or use the search engine. It would save a lot of crap from showing up on the forum. They would also be more inclined to start a thread in BDD for their simple query that doesn't belong here. If this kind of thing doesn't get implemented maybe the forum should be split; Basic Psychedelic Drug Discussion and Advanced Psychedelic Drug Discussion?

And I guess we should use the report function more. I've never used it because I thought it was only for offensive content but should we use it for new threads that belong in BDD or in the B&D threads?
 
^ I hope your not talking about me joking around before...


And about those "how much blah blah should i take for the first time" I thought there was no "what should i do threads" in the first place, so I think that may be complaining about something that has already been taken care of to some extent. But I agree with the making greenlight threads have to be approved before they become aparent. In Cannabis forum there is so much repetative shit asking the same dumb things over and over. Some mod's in CD wouldn't be bad...
 
Is there a way to make it so that all new THREADS from Greenlighters need to be approved before they're displayed? Not necessarily the posts, but the new threads that all say "Where Can I Get Drooogz" and "Meth Makes Me Want A Big Cock In My Ass" (I've actually seen threads like these recently, though not necessarily in PD)... I'm just sick of our home being littered with irrelevant bullshit, and most of it comes from the GL's... If every thread had to be approved before it was even allowed to start, it would only take a few mins for the mods to review the new threads, versus a whole bunch of BS posts talking about how its about to be closed, and then closing it.... Just a thought. BLPD is perfect anyways, but just like the U.S. Constitution, "more perfect" is possible

TMH
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Well, a no, I don't think that there should be a rule saying Greenlighters can't start threads; mainly because we were all there once, and it really doesn't pay to make an us and them situation. And think, your asking the mods to approve every one of these threads- its a bit of an ask considering the time spent already. "Our home" makes me cringe a bit to be honest; its an open forum, so in essence, its anyones place. I think its a bit wrong to single out newcomers simply because they are new. Fact is, if theres a thread that isn't neccesary, its not a big deal- as long as it doesn't cause any problems ie. breaking rules etc. There are always going to be threads that are repeats; whether they are worth repeating is kind of up to each mods discretion.

As to the meth thread; well, that had nothing to do with PD and if one reads the title of this thread, we are only discussing PD. Other, more global issues, can be raised in Support.

Please remember- we are volunteering our time here (moderators)- and I'm not asking for praise and worship (thats expected ;))- the forum is really dominated by "you guys". Be the change and all that. Instead of saying "this thread will be closed" either answer the query or simply report it. If it needs attention, it shall be given it.

As to discussion of receiving drugs in the mail etc. everyone needs to stop it, myself included. Its not a big deal, it just incriminates you (me) immediately. BL, being a harm reduction board, focuses on health and safety after purchasing drugs; if one wants to incriminate themseles ridicualously, well- thats their prerogative. We will edit what we can :)


RE: reporting threads that should be merged/moved. That is unnecasry in my opinion. More often then not, threads simply die out- if they are off relelvance, they are merged.

We'll get there :) <3
 
swilow said:
RE: reporting threads that should be merged/moved. That is unnecasry in my opinion. More often then not, threads simply die out- if they are off relelvance, they are merged.
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I see your point about merging, but the threads that don't belong in PD tend to simply clutter up the forum index when they are new/active. I for one would much prefer if I didn't have to waste my time going through irrelevant threads when browsing the forum. I know I know - why should you, the mods, waste your time moving them? Well, it's your job, isn't it? =D

Seriously though, I truly appreciate the work you do to keep this place nice and tidy and constantly evolving. I love BL, and PD most of all, and not just because psychedelics are my DOC, and the wonderful community we have here, but also because IMO it truly is the most well organized in all of BL (well, it and TR of course) <3

All the more reason to improve it even more, and IMO it would be great if us, mere mortals, could also help as much as we can to help maintain the quality of the forum, which is why I thought reporting irrelevant threads would be a neat idea.

Reporting aside, I still think more new threads should be moved to BDD. At the moment, it appears as though BDD is almost not meant for basic discussion regarding psychedelic drugs at all - which is not how it was originally intended, correct? I mean, ok, no biggie, these basic questions get answered and die out quickly, but they still clutter up search results etc. So would be nice IMHO if the most basic questions would be moved to BDD instead, or merged with the relevant threads such as the basic LSD questions and first time tripper B&D threads. Or is that an overkill?

I know - if I was a mod maybe I would think differently whether these (admittedly minor) issues would be worth the hassle, but being the perfectionist I am (at least when it comes to certain things) I doubt it. This is just me though, and I'm not a mod, so just contributing my 2 cents :)

Sorry for the long post, I am in a thorough mood ATM =D
 
Recept said:
Reporting aside, I still think more new threads should be moved to BDD. At the moment, it appears as though BDD is almost not meant for basic discussion regarding psychedelic drugs at all - which is not how it was originally intended, correct? I mean, ok, no biggie, these basic questions get answered and die out quickly, but they still clutter up search results etc. So would be nice IMHO if the most basic questions would be moved to BDD instead, or merged with the relevant threads such as the basic LSD questions and first time tripper B&D threads. Or is that an overkill?
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thats my point too.
Basic questions should be sent to BDD.

Splitting the forum in two, advanced and basic, would cause to much confusion. where do we draw the line btwn what is basic and what is advanced? and we already have a basic drug discussion forum and an advanced drug discussion forum. so lets just keep this PD.

Things regarding what dose to take for the first time or how long a drug lasts should be sent to BDD.
Things regarding the psychs of the future and their molecular structure and stuff like that can be sent to ADD or kept here because there are enough chem people in here to enjoy reading that stuff.
And because, like i said earlier, PD should be for discussion of a bit more advanced nature.

i gotta run off to school now but ill add more later if anything else comes to mind.

love you guys.
PD is still the best forum there is and you guys are some of the most interesting and loving ppl iv had the pleasure of talking to.
peace+<3<3<3
 
^I'll see wat other staff members of said forums think....I just feel that BDD more houses treads on non-psychedelics....I also think its good if experienced psychonautical-freakheads can help to answer simpler questions, as there is likely more of a wealth of knowledge in our collective gaian mind.

Splitting the forum is unlikely- it would take a lot of work, and the admins are already manic with their pruning and whatnot...but we'll see. Though I do agree that PD should be for more advanced questions; but I also think of psychedelics as kinda "advanced" drugs (elitism FTW :D) so it feels right having them here. But....as said....we'll see. :)

Keep them suggestions coming :) <3
 
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