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(Fake 6-APB) First time: Over 100 hours of hell, so far

Bluedude, you admitted your own mistake... Everyone makes 'em, even those who've taken the time to retribute you! If someone goes a bit overboard, take it on the chin. Firing back agressively just re-enforces their case.

Keep your cool. For every bad trip on any one substance, thousands of people, even if they dont enjoy it, survive & disseminate their experiences. If you're gonna get all hysterical coz some people blame you for what happend to YOU, & not any particular chemical, you're giving a bit too much away.

Some people are just hot-headed, impetuous & in the RC business this is not healthy. I'd read enough about NRG1 by the time Meph had been banned a month, to stay well away. More recently I've felt the same towards 6-APB.

I am of course very sorry to hear of your experience, I've had a touch of amphetamine psychosis in my time & I can sympathise... & also a 3 days-with-no-sleep Ketamine trip in hospital that was even worse. Best of luck with continued improvements to your health.

My advise to anyone in this game is simple, "Take Care or Take Nothing" EXTREME CARE!

Yeah good advice, totally agree. As you say we all make mistakes which was the point i was trying to make. Now a 3 day ketamine trip, woo not good i bet.
But I am back to full strength now. Despite dabbling with the drugs, I actualy spend most of my time either working on my degree or lifting weights/eating lots of healthy shit! So I feel the fact I exercise my brain and body helped me bounce back fairly quickly. The whole "trip" lasted 6 days and by the 8th I was 100% again, and I hadn't touched a drug in 8 months prior to this as well so that probably helped too.
so much love and peace to all, no more squabbles(what a word!):)
 
Biddybag as I have said give up your benzo fury campaign. Do you still not get it??? 90% of what is sold as Benzo Fury is the stuff that I took. I haven't called it 6-apb have I? I've read all your other posts and its the same old shit. You are boring mate. What are you anyway, the biggest share holder in benzo fury?? Well I am going to put my story on every forum, tell every newspaper how "THE REAL BENZO FURY NEARLY KILLED ME". Just to piss you off cos you are really gripping my shit now.

And thanks slowpoke, I came here to tell people of my story which i admit was down to my own stupidity and some readers think they are the RC taking kings and don't need warning cos they would never be that dumb. I've been taking drugs on and off for nearly 20 years, and this is my first major mistake and so we are all capable of messing up at one point in out lives. This post was to warn the people out there who are like me, a little bit impatient with their drugs and don't expect a chemical to take over 3 hours before it has any effect.

Now biddybag don't bother posting anymore, you are repeating yourself on every fuckin post you make. You sound like a nagging boring benzo fury freaky bitch.

Based on your general way of writing i highly doubt you've been doing drugs for 20 years unless you're like some 35 year old who thinks he's still 18. Just sayin.. Surely i'm not the only person who has picked up on this dudes immaturity, you're evidently not as old as you claim.

What adult calls someone a "freaky bitch" lol.:p
 
Based on your general way of writing i highly doubt you've been doing drugs for 20 years unless you're like some 35 year old who thinks he's still 18. Just sayin.. Surely i'm not the only person who has picked up on this dudes immaturity, you're evidently not as old as you claim.

What adult calls someone a "freaky bitch" lol.:p

??It's called tongue and cheek my friend. I could say what adult calls someone dude all the time. Not sure where "freaky bitch" came from tho, forgot I wrote that. Mind you it was at the end of a 6 day bad trip so I think I can be forgiven for that one:)
 
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Just signed up to say that I had a similar experience. got sleep after about 72 hours off one 100mg capsule. I took coke rittalin mcat smoke and drink whilst on it (Stupid of me). But quite a few of my mates where just on benzo and all got wired up too. I laid in bed having panic attacks for days.

Anyway a warning for you, since i took them about 2 months ago I've started to have mild sleep paralysis, which has happened about 5 times, so be aware it can happen.
 
Just signed up to say that I had a similar experience. got sleep after about 72 hours off one 100mg capsule. I took coke rittalin mcat smoke and drink whilst on it (Stupid of me). But quite a few of my mates where just on benzo and all got wired up too. I laid in bed having panic attacks for days.

Anyway a warning for you, since i took them about 2 months ago I've started to have mild sleep paralysis, which has happened about 5 times, so be aware it can happen.

Hey, sleep paralysis is absolutely awful isn't it. I used to get it mon, tues, weds after big meph binges at the weekend. Its the scariest shit ever, each time I feel i am in a real coma and will never wake up. It happened once since that horrendous trip but I take herbal sleeping pills every night and it seems to stop the dreams. I am glad to find someone else who have experienced this. It's caused from a mixture of sleep deprivation and draining your serotonin. Have you ever hallucinated during the paralysis, its really frightning to the point that I used to dread having to got to bed at night.
 
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It hasnt got to the point I hallucinate, I just wake up pancing and can't move. I'm actually more worried if it develops into hallucinations and stuff : ( Isn't good times at all. Is it worth going to the doctors about? As for the 'benzo' I will never touch it again, even if its 'actual benzo fury'. I laid in bed for about 3 days having panic attacks constantly, with my heart racing. I was seriously convinced I could die... I've not experienced a comedown like it before.
 
Seriously what the fuck goes through you people's head when you just drop random drugs like this knowing full well that it could have been mdpv and or some other fail stimulants in UNKNOWN doses...

And 10 grams of meph and 1 gram of mdpv in one night? What? Really? a 1000mg of MDPV?!?!, 10,000mg of mephedrone, you wonder why your heart is fucked?

Sorry you sound like a fucking idiot friend, it isnt the fact that all the RC's are these hardcore "dodgey" drugs it you idiots using no restraint or common sense with dosing.


Now after a second stupid dosing decision and over 100 hours without sleep (LOL sorry but seriously that's pretty funny), you're acting like you've had some realisation that drugs are bad and now you're going to be livin the healthy, drug-free life...

Mate all this bad shit was caused through not knowing your shit and wrecklessness. The vast majority of people who use common sense when dealing with drugs like mdpv know the power of rc's and respect the fuck out of them dosing wise...

Dont blame the drugs, blame your stupid self for this hell you went through. And these stupid mistakes have no doubt caused physical damage to your cardiovascular system.. stupid man so stupid.

First of all I did not say I consumed 10g of meph and a gram of MDPV to myself so read the thread, and I personally didn't suffer any ill-effects from that session.

Now just read your other posts, its unbelievable how you can take the moral high ground and lecture me for one mistake which I have admited was my fault. You are obviously an addict and have seriously messed yourself up. Sorry but that is clear. Now you make lots of hyper-critical posts when what you need to do is take a big step back and look at your own life. Yes I made a mistake but due to my good physical and mental health I have completely recovered. In that last 12 months I may have strayed of the straight and narrow 5 or 6 times maybe. Drugs are your life man and each to their own but please don't lecture me on the "physical damage" to my cardiovascular system. I'm 6ft 15st with less than 10% body fat. I keep fit, thai box 3 times a week and studying at the old age of 34 for a degree in Web Technology., so I am at the peak of my physical and mental health.

I don't think this forum is here for this, it's to spread awareness not hostility. I admit I have said a few bad things myself and I take them all back. People learn best from their mistakes but why not learn from someone elses mistake and save yourself possible harm. Now you must have known from the initial post that this thread was not for you as you are obviously fairly experienced in this field, but there are people out there who take drugs occasionally and are not experts and so are susceptible to making mistakes. These are the people who this thread is for. Not you, unless you wanted to make a worth while contribution which you have neglected to do. 2,000 + have read this thread, so this story has hopefully stopped some of them from making the same mistake as me. If it has then I am happy if not I will just remove the thread and save myself some grief.
 
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It hasnt got to the point I hallucinate, I just wake up pancing and can't move. I'm actually more worried if it develops into hallucinations and stuff : ( Isn't good times at all. Is it worth going to the doctors about? As for the 'benzo' I will never touch it again, even if its 'actual benzo fury'. I laid in bed for about 3 days having panic attacks constantly, with my heart racing. I was seriously convinced I could die... I've not experienced a comedown like it before.

Its a fairly rare condition. You may have read it but wikipedia sums it up well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis. When I had it really bad I experienced hallucinations. While in the paralysed state I would see people in my room trying to attack me.

When I read about the guy in a coma for 20 years, who was fully aware of everything around him (although the doctors thought he was in a vegetive state) it scared the shit out of me. Everytime the dreams happened I felt like "this is it, i'm in a coma for life". and will be like that guy. Reality to him was the nightmare but when he slept he dreamt he was ok again so its kinda a reverse of what we suffer.

You can get me on [email protected] if you wanted to chat more about it cos this thread isn't for this and they may get pissed off.
 
Blue Bomber, I'm glad you're pretty much back to normal and I agree: the exercise probably helped immensely.

I'm not into the RC scene, partly because I read so many of the RC threads on BL and b/c I don't really feel like experimenting with them. But I understand the appeal to others.

I want to add that I, like most BLers, have made a few drastic mistakes myself with substances I was already familiar with. So I totally understand where you're coming from. We fuck up, then we hopefully learn a lesson and modify our subsequent behavior. There's no reason to judge us for making a mistake. I admire the people who are brave enough to acknowledge their mistakes in a public forum in order to help others.

So I wanted to give you props for posting your report and providing links to more info on the subject. Without these threads, more RC users would be completely in the dark about what they're taking and how to use responsibly. So much respect. And again, I'm glad you're getting back to normal. :) Sounds like a very rough week.
 
Its a fairly rare condition. You may have read it but wikipedia sums it up well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis. When I had it really bad I experienced hallucinations. While in the paralysed state I would see people in my room trying to attack me.

When I read about the guy in a coma for 20 years, who was fully aware of everything around him (although the doctors thought he was in a vegetive state) it scared the shit out of me. Everytime the dreams happened I felt like "this is it, i'm in a coma for life". and will be like that guy. Reality to him was the nightmare but when he slept he dreamt he was ok again so its kinda a reverse of what we suffer.

Hey bomber, just going over the entire thread reading all the posts. Glad to hear you are better now. I have a little personal info on sleep paralysis, thought maybe you would like to read.

All my life from the age of 5, (now 28 ) I have suffered from sleep paralysis (at least once per week). I haven't noticed anything that really brings it on, aside from sleeping on my back (which is when I predominantly notice it). I have used many drugs in the past, a very wide variety, and have never noticed it being caused by any drug.

It is a very helpless feeling, I remember being 4 or 5 years old, falling asleep next to my mother and having the paralysis happen. I woke up terrified and asked my mother to watch me and wake me up if I whimper or nudged her (imagine your 4yr old telling you to wake them up because they are "stuck in sleep" and can't wake up on their own). I fell right back asleep and instantly went into the paralysis state, I couldn't move to nudge her and could barely make a whimper over the backround noise of the room. I woke up furious at my mother as she had not woke me up and I was sure I had let her know that something was wrong. This was probably my first episode that I can remember.

I still have these "episodes" regularly and have all my life. I finally learned that I was just one of the unlucky ones that happens to get this. I have through my years of research online and at home, found that changing your breathing patterns is a normal way in which your body wakes up. I also have noticed that I can control my breathing while in paralysis, while the rest of me is literally paralyzed. So I tried changing my breathing the next time I had an episode. I found myself in paralysis one night, so I held my breath for a 3-4 count and exhaled, did this repeatedly and after a few mins I woke up. Eureeka!! I have found a way out!!

Anyway, I have also read online where this paralysis can be turned into a positive lucid type dream experience, however you have to "go with it" and not fight the paralysis, feels like you cannot get enough air but you are breathing fine. After you relax a bit and realize you are ok, you can have fun with the experience and play with it a little. I remember one time I was laying in bed next to my ex, and having a bad night inparticular with several episodes of paralysis consisting of me whining and trying to make any noise I could to have her wake me up. This always freaked her out because the noise (as I have been told) I would make sounded like I was almost pleading for torture to stop, she could hear it in my voice. I have had other friends tell me the same thing when I have these and happen to be in another room with someone. Anyhow that night I decided to play with the paralysis if it came back, and sure enough it did as soon as I fell asleep. I was on my back but could see through my eyelids (they were and always are just a bit open when I sleep) at the bedroom door. I watched the open doorway and saw a ghostly woman appear, calmly but still freaked me the fuck out, simply because I didn't realize it was a dream at that point, I thought I was really seeing this. I have seen many weird and unexplainable things (I contribute most of these hallucinations to the dream state) during sleep paralysis.

Since then I have learned to control myself during the paralysis as hard as it is. I have learned that if you concentrate just right and focus on the "shock" in your head, you can send yourself into an OBE quickly, and it feels rather pleasant in fact. I have found different ways to do this but it feels the same everytime, I feel as if I am floating about 2-3 feet from my bed, I cannot move, can barely make a noise and at the same time feel this "floating-acceleration" sensation that is just indescribable. Even though I feel caught in a panic everytime I find myself paralyzed, I try to calm down and ride with it, not trying to move no matter what (or the panic sets in) and enjoy the experience as much as possible, rather than freak out and end it right away. I have had many great dreams that seem real as day, like flying all over the world, but realizing it's a dream because I am still totally aware that I am in sleep paralysis mode. It's been a hard thing to figure out but in the end it has ended up being a blessing more than not, even if it did take me about 20 years to appreciate it. I still find myself freaking out from time to time mostly because it feels as if you can't get enough air, although you are in fact breathing fine, like I mentioned before.

I realize this is a bit off topic, but I wanted to share this with someone who really understands how frightening this can be. I have a very strong mind and rightfully so after 20+ years of sleep paralysis torture. I have made it through many rough trips (after dosing 1.2mg of lsd for instance, along with a long list of other trips) and thought I would be a vegetable for life. I don't know if I could have made it (as easily) through alot of these "hard" ego-shattering trips if I had not gained the strength I had through years of dealing with this disorder. I feel for you and understand the helplessness that is felt while you get caught up in the paralysis, I would wish this upon NOBODY.

-Noddy
 
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Blue Bomber, I'm glad you're pretty much back to normal and I agree: the exercise probably helped immensely.

I'm not into the RC scene, partly because I read so many of the RC threads on BL and b/c I don't really feel like experimenting with them. But I understand the appeal to others.

I want to add that I, like most BLers, have made a few drastic mistakes myself with substances I was already familiar with. So I totally understand where you're coming from. We fuck up, then we hopefully learn a lesson and modify our subsequent behavior. There's no reason to judge us for making a mistake. I admire the people who are brave enough to acknowledge their mistakes in a public forum in order to help others.

So I wanted to give you props for posting your report and providing links to more info on the subject. Without these threads, more RC users would be completely in the dark about what they're taking and how to use responsibly. So much respect. And again, I'm glad you're getting back to normal. :) Sounds like a very rough week.

Cheers man much appreciated, it was a rough week but i guess i don't regret it because of what it taught me (and hopefully a few others). But thanks again :)
 
Hey bomber, just going over the entire thread reading all the posts. Glad to hear you are better now. I have a little personal info on sleep paralysis, thought maybe you would like to read.
-Noddy

Its so strange because up until I wrote this thread I had never knew of anyone else suffering from it. I spent most of last night watching videos on youtube about it and reading your experience very much reminds me of my own. The disease itself is definately not caused by drugs but I find the drugs that really mess with your seotonin levels really make it occur more often.

Most drugs I have always managed to take or leave but mephedrone was different, nothing made me happier. But it came with a price. After a weekend session, I'd have these dreams mon, tues, weds. Each night I had them I would get them about 5 times in the night and sometimes they would be the exact same scenario each time.
The noise that would go with them was an ear piercing scream, my body would go completely paralysed and I would here the downstairs door burst open and there would be a lot of commotion of people running up my stairs. I'd lie there completely helpless, trying to wake up as I hear them get closer to my bedroom door. The door would fly open and these huge dark figures would descend upon me, shouting, screaming horrible things and get right in my face, about an inch away. Normally around this point I would wake myself up, sweating, terrified. I'd lie back down and within minutes slip into the exact same state again.

This happened for about 8 or 10 months as a 3 day weekly occurrence. In the end I spoke to my girlfriend about who, she said that we can all control our dreams to a degree. Which sometimes now, when it happens I can. A few times I've lied their, gone into the state of paralysis and some people have come into my room, picked me up and put me on a very small rowing boat. I could feel myself go up and down on the waves, i wouldn't say I enjoyed it but i definately wasn't scared. But sometimes when it happens you are so disorientated you don't realise its just a dream because you are fully awake and then its frightning again.
I have a reoccurring one where a demon enters my room and crushes me face first into the ceiling, and throws more around the house, room to room. On rare occasions I have enjoyed the sensation of flying but I sometimes find the dreams are just completely sinister almost as though they are controlled by good and evil forces.(I am not a religious nut, dont worry ;-)

anyway a bit off subject but good to know there are other people get this. i may start an new thread if there is a medical forum or something to that effect on here to see if many others get this. If you've never experienced it you really will not understand how terrifying it is.

But thanks for your post, its really good to hear how other people deal with this.:)
 
that is absolutely horrible!

iv had some bad trips in the past but nothing that i can compare to this

i dont really have any experience with that shit so i cant really offer any useful suggestions but i do hope that this eventually passes

i would probably get checked out after because you never know whats going on inside when you take anything .. :/
 
that is absolutely horrible!

iv had some bad trips in the past but nothing that i can compare to this

i dont really have any experience with that shit so i cant really offer any useful suggestions but i do hope that this eventually passes

i would probably get checked out after because you never know whats going on inside when you take anything .. :/

Cheers man but its all ok now, just need to take it easy for a bit i think, lay of the energy drinks and caffeine and eat healthy.:)
 
Sleep Paralysis is because the body emits a drug to paralyse the body when asleep to prevent you acting about your dream in real life. If you fuck with your head enough, you can wake up with this switch still on, the crushing weight is just your own bodies dead weight. Sleep paralysis is often accompanied with a feeling of something menacing in the room or around.

Anyway, reading your post, you would have suffered a great deal less if you had taken the valium earlier. One thing it does is to calm the mind, relax the muscles and make you a bit bullet proof to adrenaline. It sounds like you had a really bad and long panic attack, these can become self perpetuating esp if your thinking 'you've really done it this time'. The feeling of encroaching doom is the most telling aspect of your report. Don't get me wrong here, anxiety is a crushing thing for a few hours, for as long as you felt it, must have been hell.

Valiums anti anxiety effect can last for up to 200 hours from when you 1st take it, so very useful for these situations. You will feel it wear off totally when you get a weak feeling of doom return. I don't recommend taking more when this happens just ride it out it passes fairly quickly. Benzo's tolerance goes up quickly but takes years to come down.
 
Sorry to hear it. The vendors who sell these fake substances should be round up and shot....the lack of concern for consumer safety of many RC vendors is simply intolerable.
 
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